Could Bills Trade Up To #1 For Pass Rusher? Picks and Rousseau For #1?

[TH3]

57 minutes ago, harryS said:

Bills would draft a bust or at least underwhelming DE going by past history.

 

Cincy didn't defeat the Chiefs because they had more defensive talent than the Bills.  They had better brains than the Bills on defense.  Not sure how to fix that, though.

Since people seem to support McD and Frazier.

solid post....atta boy!

[KGun12TD]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

What’s everyone having for lunch today?

Buffalo wings - DUH

[ddaryl]

Just now, KGun12TD said:

Buffalo wings - DUH

We just call them wings.

Wish I got the memo, I had those yesterday

[Success]

Groot and Oliver are the 2 key pieces to build around.  It makes no sense whatsoever to trade one of those guys.

 

If they can bring in a true pass rush specialist, it will elevate the play of both - they have to keep what they have and add to it.

 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

What’s everyone having for lunch today?

1.  This made me laugh out loud.

 

2.  I’m literally sitting here trying to answer this very question for myself when I read this (I am PST) before it hits noon.  
 

👏

[Htt2821]

1 hour ago, jletha said:

Only if we get John Skelton in the trade as well.

I actually know John, he works a lot with the non-profit I work for. Very nice guy, havn’t talked football with him yet but he is a massive human. 

[1ManRaid]

For what it's worth, the OP has been gone since shortly after posting the thread and has not responded.  Considering the ridiculous premise, it doesn't look good.

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

For what it's worth, the OP has been gone since shortly after posting the thread and has not responded.  Considering the ridiculous premise, it doesn't look good.

drive-by posters are the worst.

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

For what it's worth, the OP has been gone since shortly after posting the thread and has not responded.  Considering the ridiculous premise, it doesn't look good.

 

Maybe he got traded for an elite poster.

[KingBoots8]

I don’t make this trade.

 

 

That being said: If I am being forced to make this trade, I am doing it for a veteran / known quantity. Why would I roll the dice on an unknown draft prospect when I can use the assets to get an elite level talent (not factoring cap in here, of course). Groot had a pretty good rookie year all things considered, and he likely will do better this coming year. 
 

I truly think if you are giving up those kind of assets, you only do it if you need a QB. Even those picks/players may not be enough

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

If the Jags were stupid enough to get fleeced and make that deal than Beane and the Bills would be fools not to make that deal.

 

If we are giving up quality draft picks though I still think the best route is to trade for a proven veteran like we did with Diggs. Need someone that can step in day one and transform this entire defense because of the attention they'll command and it also makes Oliver that much better in the process.

I wanted to tag an “Agree” on this post, but then saw who the poster was and just couldn’t do it. 

[Matt_In_NH]

You would have to add more first round picks....the answer is no from the Bills and no from whoever has the pick.

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

1 - Salary Cap.  Next year, Josh’s contract kicks in and we are going to have to keep injecting young talent into this team.  Giving up 3 young players (Greg, 1st and 2nd) for one doesn’t make a lot of sense for us.  Especially since Rousseau showed a lot of upside at the same position you are suggesting we trade for.  
 

 

 

Yup, this. If anything, we are most likely to start accumulating draft picks over the next few seasons, by trading veteran players with higher salaries, in order to keep building a competitive team and stay under the cap.

[TheFunPolice]

It would cost a LOT more than that.

 

More like 2-3 1st round picks plus maybe a 2nd or 3rd. 

 

No thanks. I'd rather trade a 1st for a proven DE that a team wants to move for cap reasons. 

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

The #1 overall pick will not be a QB for only the 4th time since 2010 (Myles Garrett-'17, Jadaveon Clowney-'14 and Eric Fisher-'13). Aidan Hutchinson seems to be at the top of many draft boards.

 

A big need for the Bills is still a 10+ sack/year pass rusher. Would a package consisting of the Bills' 1st and 2nd round draft picks in '22 plus Greg Rousseau land them the #1 pick? Would you do it if you were the Bills? What if you were the Jaguars? 

 

My thought here is that the Bills have 3 young DEs that could all be decent players but maybe not elite. Rousseau probably has the most potential. Hutchinson seems more of a sure thing. If you're the Jags, you get a player and 2 good picks. Plug in Hutchinson, maybe Epenesa and/or Basham work out, bring in a vet DE to be a rotational guy. 

 

If you're the Jags and this isn't enough, what more do you think they would ask for? If you're the Bills, what more would you be willing to give up? Maybe the Bills have to throw in a 2 or 3 in '23.

 

[TheFunPolice]

maybe Miles Garrett will write a poem about how playing for the Browns stinks and we can trade for him. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

Holy crap you GREATLY underestimate how much it would cost to move up 20+ spots in the first round to #1 overall.  Need to throw in a couple more 1st and 2nd rounders at least, especially considering our low draft slots.  Our 2nd rounder + Rousseau probably wouldn't get us to the top 10, and it only gets exponentially more expensive from there.

Agreed. You are talking two #1s and two#2 and a player to move that far. And maybe even more. Nobody ever makes that trade. No one wants to move down that much and no one is willing to give up that much draft capital except in a movie

[In Summary]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no......................

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Never trade up! It's for idiots.

 

 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Why would you even contemplate trading Rousseau, who had a stellar rookie year? Plus, if we are going to trade anyway, I would rather get a proven EDGE than another rookie, no matter how highly rated he is. We should be in win now mode. 

I understand its a hypothetical but at least the suggestion needs to have some grounding in reality. 

Answer is "hell no"

 

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

The #1 overall pick will not be a QB for only the 4th time since 2010 (Myles Garrett-'17, Jadaveon Clowney-'14 and Eric Fisher-'13). Aidan Hutchinson seems to be at the top of many draft boards.

 

A big need for the Bills is still a 10+ sack/year pass rusher. Would a package consisting of the Bills' 1st and 2nd round draft picks in '22 plus Greg Rousseau land them the #1 pick? Would you do it if you were the Bills? What if you were the Jaguars? 

 

My thought here is that the Bills have 3 young DEs that could all be decent players but maybe not elite. Rousseau probably has the most potential. Hutchinson seems more of a sure thing. If you're the Jags, you get a player and 2 good picks. Plug in Hutchinson, maybe Epenesa and/or Basham work out, bring in a vet DE to be a rotational guy. 

 

If you're the Jags and this isn't enough, what more do you think they would ask for? If you're the Bills, what more would you be willing to give up? Maybe the Bills have to throw in a 2 or 3 in '23.

 

The #1 pick is going to take a lot more....like a lot.  Like 3 first rounders.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

OP: The WGR morning show was giving this a run through this morning.  Are you that  Jeremy?

[Draconator]

3 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

The #1 overall pick will not be a QB for only the 4th time since 2010 (Myles Garrett-'17, Jadaveon Clowney-'14 and Eric Fisher-'13). Aidan Hutchinson seems to be at the top of many draft boards.

 

A big need for the Bills is still a 10+ sack/year pass rusher. Would a package consisting of the Bills' 1st and 2nd round draft picks in '22 plus Greg Rousseau land them the #1 pick? Would you do it if you were the Bills? What if you were the Jaguars? 

 

My thought here is that the Bills have 3 young DEs that could all be decent players but maybe not elite. Rousseau probably has the most potential. Hutchinson seems more of a sure thing. If you're the Jags, you get a player and 2 good picks. Plug in Hutchinson, maybe Epenesa and/or Basham work out, bring in a vet DE to be a rotational guy. 

 

If you're the Jags and this isn't enough, what more do you think they would ask for? If you're the Bills, what more would you be willing to give up? Maybe the Bills have to throw in a 2 or 3 in '23.

And I thought my takes were stupid after my 3rd Vodka and Tea pre-game...

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 minutes ago, Draconator said:

And I thought my takes were stupid after my 3rd Vodka and Tea pre-game...

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 hours ago, msw2112 said:

I'm a huge Michigan fan and love Hutchinson.  I believe he will be a great pro.  That said, he's unproven at the NFL level and you never know for certain how a college player will perform at the next level.  Over time, Rousseau may end up being the better player.  I would not make this trade.  Further, as mentioned above, it might actually cost more than this to move up to #1.  I'd only make this kind of major trade to move up the board for a franchise QB, and even then, there's no guarantee of the drafted player's NFL success.

i follow Michigan a bit and I agree. I think Groot is probably going to end up being better honestly. 

[John from Riverside]

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[Simon Says]

OMG 

[Victory Formation]

Nope. We need a corner. Give me Kaiir Elam or Andrew Booth Jr at #25 and call it a day. The draft is so deep there that I think we can obtain a quality starter there no problem. I also think that Boogie and Groot are good enough to get it done.

[Buffalo Junction]

More likely that Beane gets a vet like Za’Darius Smith for a pick. Can’t possibly see him trading Groot

[Big Turk]

There is no way they are trading Rousseau, a guy who is extremely raw and didn't play football the year before the draft.

 

His upside is massive and he will only get better.

[Mike in Horseheads]

Most confusing poll I ever saw

[Mr. WEO]

lol---a late round 1, 2 and Rousseau for the #1 pick in the draft...

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

Only trade a 1st round pick for proven talent. And if it's for a pass rusher, please strive for someone greater and younger than Addison or Murphy. 

[Virgil]

Only 7 more months….7 more months 

[Augie]

10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Jesus H. Christ!🤦‍♂️

 

The hypothetical trade threads may be the worst thing that happens here. It’s ahead of clubbing baby seals, I will admit that. I wish it wasn’t so close on the list. 

 

 

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Edited February 10, 2022 by Augie

[skibum]

There is a valid argument that without a consensus QB at #1, it won't cost as much to trade up to the first pick.

 

BUT, why you would trade Rousseau plus very valuable assets for someone who MIGHT, at best, be 10% better than Rousseau, is beyond me. 

[JaCrispy]

You don’t even need the #1 pick...there will be better pass rushers than Rousseau in the teens...👍

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Are some people that post on this board 12 years old ?

[Putin]

Wow 

[Don Otreply]

WTF did I just read?

 

Go Bills!!!