Mr. WEO

He's one Josh Allen short of being a potentially decent NFL HC.

They aren't. They are Mac Jones numbers. Mariota numbers. Andy Dalton numbers. Brock Purdy had nearly as many passing TDs in only 5 games. These are/were all backup quality guys at the time. It wasn't even Jones's best season! He's had one season with over 15 TD passes. How many starting NFL QBs keep getting handed the ball year after year with those numbers? He's awful.

He and the Giants were terrible down the stretch--they won 3 of their last 9 games. He was a bad QB in 2021 and 2020. He didn't fall off a cliff....he never made it to the edge of a cliff. Then he was injured. Now he's back and he still sucks. All of this was predictable.

Jones sucks. this was known. the answer is that neither combo can possibly win "this year", gun or none.

maybe you are redefining "obviously"? they've won 2 games. they have the League's worst Offense. how does this give them "a better chance to win now"?

Saleh has been on the hottest of seats for 2 seasons. There's no chance at all Douglas was surprised by this. Johnson was on the phone with Rodgers the night before he fired Salih---and Rodgers also, comically, claims he didn't know. Anyway, the Mara family doesn't have a history of being particularly meddling. Even if Daboll hated Jones, he could have drafted a QB at 6 this year and just rode out Jones's next 2 years. But he didn't.... Jones is Daboll's guy at the time of that contract signing.

the Giants owner and it’s GM are2 different people

man, this kid's slow

Looking at Jones's production even in that prove it year, the owner would have seen far less in Jones than the guys he pays to inform him. Also, the Giants could have corrected their mistake, if Daboll was truly down on Jones, by picking a QB at 6. They again rolled the dice with Jones by picking him a WR.

i don't accept that the HC and GM you recently hired would be given no choice over the most important decision they could be asked to make. As it happened, the Giants didn't pick up his 5th year, making his 4th season his "prove it " year. They won a playoff game and the FO quickly rewarded him with a new contract.

"poor owner"? anyway, that poor owner made a poor choice for HC and GM. I bet another NFL won't make those mistakes.

He was a driving force in re-signing Danny Dimes. He watched Barkley walk out the door. Josh doesn't need Daboll. Daboll needs Josh.

Levis is better. Rudolph is so bad even Mike Tomlin didn’t want him—and the Steelers have thrown 5 TDs all season.

Tenn stinks. Rudolph is them tanking

which one is he now?