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I would have LOVED to land Elijah Moore

This is definitely what happened. He ran out on the field thinking the play was dead and didn't realize it was still going. It looked like he was down by contact from the bench on the INT, but it wasn't. Once he was on the field you can tell he didn't know what to do.

Bingo. What’s crazy to me is how obvious this is and yet people unrealistically arguing against it.

Is there anything about this team you like? Asking for a friend...

Oh yes, sorry thanks for the correction on that

Thanks, figured it went down some as I don’t think he had but one drop in last 2 games. It was at 17% heading into the Browns game.

I don’t know what his drop rate is today, but a week or two ago he was dropping 17% of his catchable balls on the season and was third in league in total drops, with a catch rate of 54% for his career. I don’t think he was getting a bum rap, his drops cost us drives in games we lost. He also dropped a critical pass on the late drive in the Vikes game the refs missed and Josh quickly snapped the ball to cover up. I was very high on Gabe all off season, I’m still optimistic about him. But I don’t think it’s a “bum rap” when you’re a professional starting WE and dropping 17% of your passes with a career history of low catch rate. He has also made plenty of good plays, he’s not a lost cause or a disaster. But the concerns have been warranted. He also has struggled to win his routes and most often makes catches after breaking off routes to bail Josh out because no one was initially open. As usual, season total stats don’t begin to paint the whole picture

I get that, but the offensive woes in the second half pre date Allens injury by 3 full games. GB, Jets, Vikings (he got hurt on 3rd to last play of game against Vikings). I think it’s more Dorsey than Allen. Yes Allen has made some poor decisions, he’s also been pressing because we aren’t consistently scheming WRs open enough. Dorsey has relied WAY too much on the receivers winning their individual battles rather than scheming plays to get them open the way Daboll did, KC does, etc. I’m not worried about Allen at all, I am worried about Dorsey until I see it on the field though.

Yeah, and seasoned Daboll figured it out. We have a rookie OC who’s not proven he can yet. Dorsey is a concern until he shows he can adjust, which he hasn’t yet. I hold out hope he does, but I’ve yet to see it and the film shows he’s not adjusting to what the defense is showing him. So until I see him do it, I’m going to remain concerned. If Daboll was here, I’d be less concerned.

Im not saying they won’t figure it out. I’m saying stop trying to mask they are struggling because they clearly are. 5 weeks ago during the bye week, Allen was a runaway MVP candidate, would have been unanimous. 4 weeks ago he was tied with Mahomes. 3 weeks ago, he was second to Mahomes. 2 weeks ago he was 4th behind Mahomes, Tua, and Hill. Now he isn’t even mentioned. Why is that? Because Allen and the offense have been struggling. Allen is a stud, easily my favorite player of all time. But remaining unbiased, it’s fair to say he’s been struggling with consistency and so has the offense, even before Allens injury. And going back to last year, we had a very successful and seasoned OC who was here to “figure it out”. Now we have a rookie OC who has not been able to adapt to opposing defense getting film on his offense and figuring out how to disrupt it. He has been terrible in both scheme and play calling in the second half of games as well. There is a lot of professional analysis out there showing the issues with Dorsey’s offense. His inability to find consistency is concerning, especially in his inability to scheme guys open. In fact, that is the absolute biggest issue with this offense right now is getting our receivers open consistently. And that starts with his offense design and scheme. More puzzling is the fast start Devin and the run game get off too frequently, just to see him go away from it in the 2nd half.

You say things “even while struggling” while arguing with anyone suggesting the offense is struggling in multiple threads. The offense is very much struggling, and your cherry picking of stats to mask that won’t change that. I mean it’s not even up for debate. You again are using general stats with no context to make an incorrect conclusion, just like your injury thread you created. Feels like your new favorite thing to do is to use totals without context. For example, while you want to say what we average over a full game, you fail to realize a lot of those points and production have come in the first half the past 5 games with the one exception of the Browns game. We ONLY have 2 TDs in the second half of the past 5 games. We were first in the league in point differential in the second half up through the bye week. We have been one of the worst since then. You dont win football games in the first half or staring at game totals to make the picture look more rosey. You win football games getting the job done to close out games. And we have 1 million percent been struggling in the second half and there is literally no stat you can type to change that. Our offense has not put up a good complete game since Pitt and KC. They either start strong and struggle second half, or they start terrible and move then move the ball second half and get a lot of FGs. So sorry, no disrespect, but just like in your completely off base “injuries are not an excuse thread”, you are again poorly using stat totals with no context to make an incorrect point.

Injuries.

This. This too.

Well said. However, I think Dorsey criticism is warranted. We had a lot of early offensive success under him, and once teams got tape, defenses have found ways to disrupt the offense, especially in the 2nd half after first half adjustments. His tendency to use Devin early with great success then go away from him as the game goes on is also frustrating. I get Dorsey is learning on the job, but that doesn’t change the fact he needs to be better if we are going to beat KC when it matters…in the post season. Not to mention, we still have several tough games on our schedule ahead of us, including 4 challenging divisional games we need to win. If Dorsey can’t find a way to scheme guys open more, our offense isn’t going to return to its efficiency we saw the first part of the season. And he desperately needs to figure out how to be better in the 2nd half of games.