Alphadawg7

I mean we have invested very little draft wise into the position and used low cost FA’s to fill roles. Serviceable is the word to describe almost all of them because that is what you get when you don’t invest into the position.

A good comparison in my mind is Big Ben. He evolved past being a physical runner as his age increased, and that allowed Ben to be a good QB longer than say someone like Cam Newton who really wasn’t a great QB, so when Cam’s physical gifts started to decline so did his career and sharply because he was never a high level passer. Big Ben retired at 39 after 18 seasons and his best season as a passer in his career was when he was 35 or 36 in 2018 when he threw for over 5000 yards. In fact the best 2 year span of his career was his mid 30’s in 2017 and 2018 when he was 35 and 36 years old and threw for over 9,300 yards and had 65 TDs.

I think Keon, Bishop, SVPG, and Davis obviously have the best chance to be good players for us. I still like Solomon's potential too. But as many have pointed out, its way too early to tell anything about any of these guys. Obviously, Keon and Davis showed the most as rookies, but Keon wasn't the same after he got back from injury and Davis chances were limited with Cook here and Ty emerging as well. So still a lot to prove, but with Keon specficially, I think adding a downfield threat to the WR room is going to really help him as well.

Thats a good comparison, and good food for thought, but our situation right now I think makes the trade for Garrett the better move. For the record, normally I am about the draft instead of making big trades. But with us being on the cusp like this, Josh smack in the middle of his prime, a move like this has never made more sense than it does right now. Most damning stat for me is the fact in 3 of our 4 losses to the Chiefs in the playoffs, we gave up an average of 35 PPG to them and then they went on to lose the next week averaging just 17 PPG. I mean that is less than half what they score on us. And we have no anchor on D, no game changing impact player, and never have. While all the SB winners we watch win every year do. So, while the draft is great this year for DL, I still prefer the sure thing personally because the need for it on this team is almost a desperation levels and there are never sure things when it comes to the draft. Also, we can use the draft to add some beef on the interior still as well and now we have 2 new pieces on a DL that needs the help.

Not aimed at just you....but...Did anyone read the article? No where in the article does it say he made it up, in fact, the entire article states it all did happen, he just regrets how big it got and how he didn't want to be the face of bullying. His dad even plays a voice mail by Ritchie saying and doing all the things he was alleged to have said and done. Don't get me wrong, Martin is soft as charmin...but literally nothing in this article says he made it up or that it didn't happen. In fact, every person they interviewed in this article acknowledges things happened in there.

Convenient to leave it out? 1st Down - Guys are wide open and Allen throws a bad pass that Romo called a "throw away" it was so off. 2nd Down - Guys are open and Allen has a his ball batted down at the LOS on a throw to Samuel that would have been a first down. 3rd Down - Allen completes to Cooper on a WR screen, he doesn't fall down, his back foot slips a little but even so, the only way the play can work is if all the blocking also works perfect, which it doesnt and Cooper is tackled for a short gain. 4th Down - Guys are wide open but Allen shifts the protection to the wrong side as Spags confuses him, our team, and coaches leading to free releases on the blitz and Allen doesn't see a wide open Shakir to his left for an easy first down and more and is forced to throw to what was a wide open Kincaid down field but under duress falling away which ends up being a prayer ball that Kincaid tries to adjust to and can't complete the catch. We did not lose because we did not have guys open or because who was on the field. We lost because on the final 4 down series we had guys open on every down and we failed to take advantage of them. So for the last time, our series ending had nothing to do with not having open targets for Allen to throw to. End of story. And the only reason we were in this position was once again our defense let the Chiefs score over 30 (for the only time this entire season) a week before another team completely shuts them down (3rd time in 4 of our Chiefs losses in the postseason Chiefs would get shut down a week later and lose). PS: If (as you claimed earlier) we would have scored on that Cooper screen (which he was not going to do even if he didn't slip), Mahomes still gets the ball back with over 2 minutes and timeouts only down 3 or 4 (depending if Bass converts the XP). Mahomes is the only QB in history with a 100% success rate of scoring on the final drive to tie or win the game in the postseason. And not only is he perfect, he has the most attempts at while also remaining 100% and no other QB is even over 50%. And given our defense was amongst the worst in the NFL at allowing first downs and amongst the worst in 3rd down conversions, if you think Mahomes who gets 4 downs now to keep moving the ball isn't scoring the go ahead TD on that next drive then you have not been paying attention or watching this defense trying unsuccessfully to stop Mahomes late in games.

Hollywood Brown ran a 4.27 40 at his combine, he is a guy who has another gear down field. He isn't a big WR, but outside of this year when he missed all but 2 regular season games from an injury in camp, he has been relatively durable for a guy his size with only one other season with less than 14 games played. He is still only 27 years old. Slayton is quite a bit undervalued IMHO after playing in such a desolate QB wasteland. He is a former first round pick in 2019 and just been in QB purgatory there in NY. Not as fast as Brown, but he ran a 4.39 at the combine, still plenty fast. He has shown to be a big play guy for the Giatns despite the woeful QB play during his career. I am not saying either guy is coming to Buffalo and becoming a top 10 WR, but both bring an element we are lacking as a downfield threat and would come at an affordable price as well. I think both will have an opportunity to be the best versions of themselves here with Allen in this offense.

I mean we were the 16th best in history, best all time for the Bills. If that isn't good enough you got other issues wouldn't you say?

Don't get me wrong, I get your reservations fully, which is why I said you still draft one early if you sign either of those guys. I personally don't put a lot of stock in what PFF says, especially with the situation hes been in compounding that further. Slayton IMHO is certainly better than PFF is giving him credit for and its why he will have suitors too. I honestly havent seen what Browns market is estimated to be at, I just know he was cheap last year and did nothing to change that this year given he didn't really play much thanks to the injury. If you are saying $18M per year for 2 years then yeah, thats gross and I wouldn't be interested either. But if you are saying $18M for the 2 years, or $9M a season, I would be fine with that because if healthy he is a better WR than a $9M a year guy and he adds an element to the offense we lack. None the less, signing either of them (or Cooper) needs to accompany drafting someone early still.

Its all good bud, and make no mistake about it, we need to and will add another boundary WR this offseason. I am not against it at all, its just we better do something to help the defense get out of the bottom of the league at 3rd down stops and first downs allowed or its hard to imagine things being much different. I would love to throw 2 firsts at Garrett then turn around and try and entice Seattle with a 2nd and maybe one of our 4th or 5th rounders and see if they bite. Will it happen, most likely not, but if I was in Beanes spot with a team this close with this few of glaring holes, I would be trying to make those 2 trades happen (or Crosby if not Garrett)

I get that, you play the better teams the games are naturally closer, like the Ravens game. But even in that game, our D didn't come through, someone just dropped the ball and it gave us the win. And look at what the Eagles DL did...they made sure there was no narrow margin of error just the Bucs did when they smashed the Chiefs too. At one point the Eagles were up 34-0. 29 points should have been enough against this low scoring Chiefs team that had not scored 30 all season except the game they beat us in the AFCCG when they scored 32. And as I have mentioned previously, in the 4 games KC knocked us out of the playoffs they went on to lose their next game 3 times. In their wins over us they average 35 ppg...in those 3 losses the following week (including 2 SB losses) they averaged just 17 PPG. So, our defense is clearly the one putting us into a low margin of error situations every post season by just folding like a lawn chair and its hard to expect different results if we cant get some people on that side of the ball capable of getting off the field on 3rd down a couple more times a game.

Personally, I think Hollywood Brown or Darius Slayton could also be the guy they bring in while also maybe drafting a guy. And honestly, I think I prefer one of them over Cooper as they at least bring more of a downfield threat that this team lacks elsewhere.

I think Tee Higgins either stays in Cincy or ends up with either the Pats or Commanders.

My preference is we trade this first round pick in a package that gets us back Garrett or Crosby. But if we still have the pick, I am guessing at 30 the BPA will likely be someone on the DL as the draft rolls around. Of course trades, FA, and the combine can affect a lot of things heading into the draft, but just looking at it now that is what I would guess.

Hate Josh Allen? I might actually be his biggest fan. But facts are facts...we had guys wide open on our final series and we didn't make the plays to get them the ball. So for people to pretend we lost this game all because we didn't have a Chase, Jefferson, etc type player is just not reflective of what actually happened.