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Parsons traded to Green Bay, given $188 million contract
Alphadawg7 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
Agree and said the same thing when the trade was announced. $47m for a non QB is insanity. Now add a one dimensional player who can be neutralized when your team has a lead or close game and you can run right at him and it gets comically bad contract. In 2023 Dallas had: #1 offense in the NFL, NFL passing leader, top end weapons, the #5 defense, the NFL leader on INT at CB, and Micah Parsons. Yet they got beat embarrassingly by good teams when they just ran right at them like we did that year. And that 2023 season ended with a beat down in the Playoffs where that #5 defense with the league leader in interceptions and Micah Parsons gave up 48 points to the Packers including 3 passing TDs (so much for the pass rush) and 3 rushing TDS to Aaron Jones (because Packers just got to run a lot with a lead and Dallas couldn’t stop it). Micah is NOT a $47m a year difference maker, not even close. He’s not nearly as good as the guy making $7m less per year in Myles Garrett, not even close. And how he has back issues, which was known before the trade lol. Packers need to win the SB this year or this trade will blow up in their face because now they lack the cap flexibility and first round draft picks to build a better roster moving forward is this one isn’t good enough to get it done this year. -
Christian Wilkins released for kissing team mate
Alphadawg7 replied to ChronicAndKnuckles's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not sure we need him - we lost a backup rotational DL guy, not a starter. And we still have TJ and Walker to get into the rotation and 2 guys coming back in 6 weeks on our DL too. Wilkins doesn't seem like the kind of locker room guy that fits in here, and then add in he may not start either, that could make his locker room presence even more of an issue. Would I hate it? - No, always up for more talent. Do we "need" to? - No, not IMHO. Do I think it will happen? - Also no. DISCLAIMER - We come out against the Ravens and early in the season and our interior DL isnt cutting it and blows - I reserve the right to change my opinion lol. -
He was not available, this trade came about so fast that Clark actually practiced that same day of the trade which would have never happened if it was known then he was even being moved. He got moved because they had a chance to get Parsons and it’s what Dallas wanted. He wasn’t being shopped from all the reports I’ve seen. More importantly, we signed DTs and drafted 2, we were never going to trade for one even if he was available IMHO.
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IMHO - The only reason it could be under is if injuries cause it. Keon has been the featured WR all camp and by all reports the best WR in camp. He was on pace for 1,000 yards last year before he got hurt against the Dolphins. And all everyone has talked about all offseason and camp is how Keon is not the same player and a lot better now than he was last year. Kincaid was slowed by knee issues last year too in his 2nd year and people forget as a rookie he had the 4th most catches for a rookie TE in history. Now we are in year 2 of Bradys full offense, Keon and Kincaid are healthy and have more experience with Allen, and are both going to be focal points of the offense more so than even last year. So I have no doubts it will be over personally, assuming they don't miss time of course.
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Parsons traded to Green Bay, given $188 million contract
Alphadawg7 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
2023 - Cowboys had the NFL leading passer, the #1 offense in the NFL, the #5 Defense in the NFL, Micah Parsons (on his rookie deal), and the NFL league leader in Interceptions. BUT - As soon as teams got ahead, they beat Dallas in embarrassing fashion and just neutralized the defense and Micah by running right at him (including the Bills). Micah is not worth $47M a season - he is an elite pass rusher, probably best pure rusher in the NFL. But he is a liability the other half of the downs. He got $7M more than Myles Garrett a few months after Myles got his record deal. Thats is an insane jump for a guy who is without question not as good as Myles. Now imagine if Micah was making $47M in 2023 - what players would they have not been able to afford if he was making that in 2023? In other words, that contract would have made that team worse that was already not good enough and exploitable on defense. GB was able to make their cap work this year and only lost 1 player, although it was a 3x pro bowl DT. I would say its a net gain though for GB this season, but that defense wasn't a "Micah" away from being elite either, especially when you factor in the loss of on the inside. But, IMHO, this puts GB in a win it all now position, because if GB doesn't prove to be good enough this season, they are now in a severely different cap situation moving forward and now have a hole at DT to fill and also lack 2 first round picks for inexpensive opportunities to add more talent to a tight cap. If this roster can't get it done, improving it to get over humps gets harder now moving forward. This feels like a boom or bust year for GB IMHO - if it works, 100% worth it no matter what happens in the years after. If it doesn't, it very well could be an anchor to their future. It will be interesting to watch -
I am up for bringing him in - Safety is the lone unsettled spot on this roster.
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Agree - And yeah in a perfect world preseason tickets would be cheap or free. But I know a lot of people at different places involved with NFL production and what a lot of people don't consider is that it isn't any cheaper for the NFL or teams to play a preseason game than it is a regular season game. In fact, its more expensive as the revenue on the games are lower while their costs are the same as they don't get the same ad rev rates, same amount of ticket sales, etc. Its a prime reason why the NFL wanted to shorten the preseason by a game and lengthen the regular season. All the same expenses exist - team travel, stadium expenses, TV production, editing, in game analysts and commentary, etc etc while the revenue is less. And one of the ways to boost the revenue is to manufacture ticket sales though forced purchase when buying season tickets. If they didn't then by all accounts, the preseason games would be even more expensive as they would not likely replicate that ticket revenue through organic ticket sales. If it were up to the NFL they would cut preseason even more and add another regular season game (something that has already been considered and still may be coming). But most teams and coaches are against that as they need these games to build rosters.
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Yeah I am really high on both TJ Sanders and Walker. I think both will make strong impacts this year, and if they are impacting the game guys like Oliver and our edge guys like Groot, Bosa, etc are all going to be better. And if a guy like Walker can command double teams it also makes life better for Bernard and Milano. And that dominos to the secondary, if we are being more disruptive upfront it makes life better on the secondary. The counter balance to that optimism is that they are still young, we are still playing in a rotation, but I do think they are going to be impactful as rookies. And our 2 guys coming off suspension after week 6 are guys who will contribute as well and will be coming in with fresh legs. So I am pretty optimistic right now about our defense, even with my concerns at Safety.
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Exactly, plenty of people want to see the young guys, camp battles, etc. But some people are complaining about the games being "unwatchable" when the purpose of the game is about player evaluation, not entertainment. And there are a lot of people who do find camp battles, young guys, players battling for a roster spot, etc interesting still and entertaining even though the reason these games exist are for the coaches and GM's to put together their rosters.
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And yet you don't have to go.
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Keep in mind, preseason isn't there to entertain and be watched by fans, its to evaluate guys trying to make a roster or fight for starting spots or roles.
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Dont get me wrong, he would have helped us from a player stand point. And I have been very vocal about how our D is our biggest issue. But I also don't think he is worth that much money and how it would impact the roster moving forward. I also am high on our draft class on the D this year personally. I think we were right there last year, and honestly the refs flipped the game 11-15 points in the middle of the 4th in a game we lost by 3. So we were the better team last year IMHO and I think we got better this offseason than we were last year.
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Yeah they had a much different cap situation - so I get why they did it. But I see a lot of people on here thinking that was super cheap and we should have made the trade. So I was just saying that its more than the compensation for the trade, its affording the insane contract. Personally, if you are going to pay a non-QB that kind of money, they better be god tier and have such an impact they can be attributed to several more wins a year. Micah isn't that guy, he is the modern day Derrick Thomas - a sack specialist who doesn't provide much to the defense outside that. And while I would love him on the team, he is no Myles Garret. I would rather have a Chris Jones than a Micah Parsons who also rubs people the wrong way reportedly too in the locker room with his off field public antics with his podcast and stuff. Micah is an elite pass rusher, but he isn't some god tier player worth what he just got IMHO - and they also gave up 2 firsts and a good player. TBH - I may be in the minority, but I think Dallas did this right. Dallas wasn't going to win it all with Micah, their defense sucks becuase they got a one trick pony star up front in Micah and CB who is flashy for INTs but gets torched a lot because he cares more about the INT than making the best play and gambles too much. Those were about to be their 2 highest paid players, and having them at their best hasn't resulted in their defense being much at all. Dallas gets rid of what would have been a massive cap anchor, gets back a good player and 2 firsts for a team thats been towing the line of needing a mini retool/rebuild for several seasons now because its not working as assembled. And the only reason they haven't is Jerry is so desperate to win again before he dies, he keeps trying to force the square peg in the round hole trying to keep contending fearing the time to retool.
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They didnt just give up 2 firsts and a player, they also paid him $47m a year, that is a ton of cap space we dont have and franchise QB money for a guy who wont impact a game nearly as much as a franchise QB
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