Mikie2times

Agree, it's an issue with the whole party at this point. Find 2-3 grievances, so many to count at this point it shouldn't be hard. Hammer them relentlessly. Stop letting him flood the zone. The constant reporting of everything he does bad just gets blended in with the things he is doing that are really bad. That is the goal. To make every grievance look personal or TDS related then all of them, even the really bad ones, don't ever stand out.

I picture Johnny 5 chasing down the bad guys with "I need a hero" playing in the background

I'm not avoiding anything. You keep failing to understand IT DOES NOT MATTER. If it did, he wouldn't be in office right now.

I just can't. It's a fundamental disconnect with the party areas of focus. It will never be an option for me, but being completely unmotivated, uninspired, etc is what is resulting.

His record is 2-1, boomer. Get a clue

Yes, watching people like you cry every time he takes a dump is nearly as off putting as Big Blitz over the top conspiracy driven garbage. Trump wants you to be offended by everything. Emphasize everything and you emphasize nothing. He brackets you off to TDS and reduces things that matter to personal grievances. You and other liberals hurt the party by falling right into it. You are a reflection of the broader problem with the Democratic Party. You thinking Republican liabilities matter or will win democrats elections. This despite Donald Trump winning a second election after sparking riots at the capitol, being indicted multiple times, mismanaging an epidemic, being besties with Epstein. HE STILL WON. You live in your own news cycle where CNN the Wall Street journal tell you we are winning the polls. How unfavorable he has become. How this time it actually matters when zero evidence suggests any of it does. Its all the same trap that cost the dems the last election and will cost them next one.

Obviously I’m a frustrated liberal. But like many liberals I see, all you care about is what somebody else does. You don’t make sure your own house is in order. I understand that the “liability” of right isn’t an actual liability. Otherwise the voters would have said as much. You think Trump would lose again. You’re to connected to the news cycles you want to listen to which is obvious from your X reposts. Spend some time in Detroit. Spend some time in Ohio. Those voters feel just as strong now as they did a year ago. Edit* @Homelander based on what happened in his first term. Any rational person would say Trump was not electable. It didn’t seem possible. Yet here we are. All I see is liberals bitching about Trump 24/7. As if everything he does is a new injustice. 1. He is trolling the ***** out of you 2. Him being awful has not proven to stop him or his party from being elected. He is one of the most morally bankrupt people I have ever seen. Yet here we are. So I would really start looking at this more in terms of how motivated people can be for the left vs how much they hate the right. We have been waiting for the moment in which America says this is just too much. I don’t know if that’s going to happen.

You’re the beacon of the right. Bringing the rational and sane middle voters to a collective peace with your well spoken words. How the entire world doesn’t see the virtue of your ways is beyond me.

I would bet a dollar you said he wouldn't win the first time. I would bet another you said he wouldn't win the second. If you don't understand what the party is up against, I can't help you.

Not having a fundamental immigration policy that the public feels will be enforced. Most countries have clear methods to bring citizens in the country and they enforce them. We should have those same paths otherwise we are completely vulnerable to the issue as a whole as we saw last election. Allowing transgender women to compete in women’s sports without meaningful restrictions / Supporting gender-transition policies for minors. These types of issues represent such a low minority of voters, but speak 100x as loud when combating the party itself. Most liberals support peoples desire to be whoever or whatever they want. When we talk athletics or minors it's extending beyond the normal swing voter. The entire democratic socialist movement as a whole, which is a minority, but loud minority vs a very quiet majority, is a party liability. I like Bernie and support a lot of his ideas but the greater US isn't ready for them. Having these groups represent the bulk of the national news cycles is not beneficial to the swing vote or party. Why do I think Trump would win? Liberals are only voting against something at this point. They aren't voting for something. We have seen multiple times in failed polls what outcome that produces. That, and he would still take Ohio, likely take Michigan, likely take Pennsylvania. The midwest is still going to side with him. As you can see in these forums, most his voters are perfectly fine with what has occurred. Certainly fine enough to not switch sides.

I really think it's foolish to dismiss Indiana. They're now adding actual high end talent, not just coaching up three star guys. You would also think the "Chip" would be gone this year, but I don't think that is the case at all. They're ranked 6th nationally. Sort of a slap to a team off a NC title, mind you Mendoza is gone, but Mendoza like current QB Josh Hoover was not exactly heralded pre transfer. Good players at Cal and TCU, but Indiana has now made Rourke and Mendoza look elite. Expect the same from Hoover. Outside of that I would probably lead Texas or Georgia. Arch was looking really strong to close the year. Georgia is always in it and has consistency at the QB spot. I'm going Texas vs Indiana

I’m on the liberal side and could never vote Republican, but I’m not far left. Plenty of my friends and family are conservative, and we get along just fine. I’m disgusted by Trump, but I honestly don’t see a clear path out of this. Democrats seem divided between traditional liberals and the socialist wing, while increasingly championing fringe issues that alienate many otherwise persuadable voters. The voices we hear are not coming from the moderate liberals, but the far left, which least represent the voters needed to turn this around. The party feels split, unfocused, and uninspiring. Meanwhile, the right is united, passionate, and motivated to vote, even if their only shared goal is keeping Democrats out of office or pushing forward a broader conservative agenda. Perhaps most concerning, nearly every fear liberals had with this administration is playing out and then some. After all this time has elapsed, it doesn't appear we have moved in inch toward positioning the party to be competitive. If the election were held today, I think Trump would still win. Sure the approval ratings don't support that statement, but without a candidate people can unite behind with some enthusiasm and without a clear agenda, it just doesn't seem like liberals will be able to move the needle or pull swing voters. What is the realistic path out of this, and are Democrats anywhere close to finding it?

On 3 and 8. Agree with Houston as far as timing. I will take the extra time to prepare, with more volatility, and fresh body’s. That is a worse match up for us later in the year where short weeks, injuries, and other things can play more of a role. I almost started a thread today about Elams-Orr. He is going to be an outright steal. Massive athleticism. Sub 4.5 40, not just fast, he has functional speed. To finish it off just a massive uphill trajectory. Going from barely getting on the field to leading the Big 12 in tackles. We got a complete stud here and I think he will be starting pretty early.

Listening to you would make a neutral person not be neutral

Sadly the other option is what we are seeing now. Not sure how either group can have pride at the moment.