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Except that framing still feels unnecessarily inflammatory to me. There are a whole host of reasons why Terrance Gray could ultimately choose Minnesota over Buffalo that have nothing to do with ego. Who’s to say Gray doesn’t simply prefer a different challenge, organizational structure, or even want to be closer to family in the Midwest? Those are all entirely plausible explanations. I also think it’s unfair to reduce something this nuanced down to “ego.” I have thought about it. In fact, I’m the first person in this thread who brought it up. It’s sandwiched between your posts about drafting a safety in 2027 and the idea that Brandon Beane’s ego is the only reason Terrance Gray could possibly leave. If your point is simply that you believe Gray is viewed internally as a future GM candidate, that’s completely fair speculation. We agree. But jumping from that to “the only thing standing in the way is ego” is where I think the conversation becomes unfair and overly simplistic. There are plenty of plausible reasons why Gray could choose another opportunity that have nothing to do with ego at all. I've also laid out how it works, it's not speculation. Giving exact specifics.

Pretty interesting that your original post went as far as framing this as a Beane ego problem that could potentially cost the Bills draft pick compensation, but now you’re saying you don’t fully understand the rules or how the process works. It feels like an oversimplification and an unnecessary shot. Typically, if it’s considered a lateral move by title, the current team would need to grant permission for the interview or hire to happen. Regardless of reporting structure, teams will often allow it if it represents a meaningful promotion in title or organizational structure, but they are not required to do so. Using a coordinator example because I don’t have a front office example off-hand, but the league generally handles them similarly: the Cowboys recently denied the Eagles permission to interview Klayton Adams for their offensive coordinator opening. The fact that Adams does not call plays under Brian Schottenheimer, but presumably would under Nick Sirianni, was ultimately irrelevant to Dallas’ ability to deny the request.

It’s actually a fairly common structure. Most of my background is in baseball, and this type of setup has existed there for years, with a President of Baseball Operations serving as the highest-ranking executive and a GM reporting to them. It gives organizations flexibility to retain talented executives who are drawing outside interest, or to bring in high-end talent from other clubs that otherwise may not have been attainable. The tradeoff, of course, is that there’s typically no draft pick compensation tied to those arrangements. Honestly, if the Bills get the sense that the Vikings are planning to hire Gray as GM under Brzezinski, I wouldn’t be surprised if they simply adjusted the structure internally and promoted Gray to GM themselves because they wouldn't receive draft pick compensation. At that point, he’d effectively be reporting to someone above him in either scenario anyway and he may prefer to stay in Buffalo rather than uproot his life for a similar role.

There are rumors that Rob Brzezinski could be elevated to President of Football Operations, with Terrance Gray (or someone else) being named General Manager. If that were to happen, the Bills would not be eligible to receive draft pick compensation, because Gray would not be considered the primary football official in the Vikings organization. This is similar to what recently happened with the Bears. Their AGM, Ian Cunningham, was hired away by the Falcons, but Chicago did not receive draft pick compensation because Matt Ryan, not Cunningham, is considered the Falcons' primary football official. The Bears appealed the NFL’s original decision, but the appeal was denied as well. @Kirby Jackson

You’re right, my bad!!

You told me nothing was rattling around in my brain for pointing out I didn’t like half of the Dolphins picks on day 2. Very interactive discussion!

Round 6, Pick 213 overall

Jay Valai is going to earn his money.

There is a chance we could take him. Gilliam leaving for NE technically gives us flexibility to add a 4th TE, if you assume they're willing to use Hawes in multiple ways? I'm not advocating for it, but they have the ability to construct the roster a bit differently.

Queue a good portion of people pounding the table for Jermod McCoy because he’s rated highly on public boards.

Go touch grass.

What people don’t seem to realize is this is how most front offices operate, more often than not. Brandon Beane isn’t sitting on the phone with every team all day. That’s what guys like Malik Boyd, Terrance Gray, and Brian Gaine are doing. They’re working the calls, building out frameworks, and moving conversations forward, then looping the GM in when things get serious. That’s not unique, that’s standard practice across the league. It’s not like Malik Boyd was directly on the phone with Eliot Wolf during the trade-back with the New England Patriots, he was lowly talking to his counterpart until it got serious. Everyone involved is working off the same charts and value models. The groundwork gets done at that level, and then it gets escalated for the GM to give the final thumbs up.

Yeah, I would’ve preferred Cooper to Parker personally. Ponds is a good player, but seeing we targeted a traits guy, I’d like to give Jim Leonhard the benefit of the doubt… we also would have had to trade up pretty significantly to land Ponds so I’m not necessarily sure we could have had both if we wanted…

Yeah, I’d rather have the first group. Are you willing to be bad enough to accumulate the draft capital to select those players?

Jeez, not sure why this got so personal. I presume that says a lot about what’s rattling around over there. Proctor’s likely kicking to RT or guard long term, which isn’t exactly what you’re hoping for at 12 overall. I do like Johnson and Rodriguez, they’re good players who should get plenty of run on a bad team. I’ve already been pretty clear on the blocking TE and Chris Bell, so I won’t rehash that. At the end of the day, they had five premium picks and it feels like a mixed return.