Kirby Jackson

I guess that this is also where some of the divide is. I think the floor for this team is a division title and WC loss. If you or I was coaching they’d be 10-7 or 11-6 and win the AFCE. So, IMO, pretty much every single guy coaching anywhere in the NFL could accomplish that with Josh Allen and this roster. So for me, I don’t think “the bottom falling out” is possible. I’d probably hand the reigns to Joe Brady but could be talked into lots of different people.

The irony is Reid was there a long time and never won (with good teams and a top 10 QB). He left and they won twice. In his second stop, he won 3 times. Maybe that’s McDermott? Belichick didn’t win at his first stop either. Let’s just say, last season’s result, repeats itself over and over and over. How many more KC playoff losses 32-29 would you accept? For me, I would have already been done. If this happens 8 more times, good? 5? 1? 0? I guess this is where the divide is for some. The results are good. They aren’t good enough. I wouldn’t continue letting years of Josh Allen’s prime tick off without a title (or change). I think that the Ravens should be in the same boat. The difference is Harbaugh has won one and they haven’t ended each year the same way. What about the years that they had the number 1 defense? When should he be accountable? That’s what I am asking. If you don’t think it should be on the table, that’s fine. I’d ask, why? I think that you should win at least a Super Bowl with Josh Allen. The results vs. KC don’t give me much confidence that he can do it.

I guess, for me, just because he has been terrible at hiring coaches/gms, doesn’t mean he should settle. I think with Josh Allen, the floor is the AFC East Title. Rich Kotite would win the division every year with this group. For me, the ceiling is a Super Bowl Title and the floor is a home loss in the WC round. It’s been that way for 5 years. They haven’t hit the floor but are also still steps from the ceiling.

For sure, there were multiple factors. It’s such a great example though for where the Bills are now. It’s kind of weird that @Mister Defense disliked the post instead of responding. What in there is controversial? Allen has been historically good in the playoffs and McDermott historically bad vs. KC. That’s not really debatable. If he’s against the notion that McDermott belongs on the hot seat, defend that position. I’m of the belief that dozens of coaches could have accomplished what he has over the last 5 seasons with those exact rosters. @GunnerBill are you still all in on McDermott? We are often in agreement but we couldn’t feel more differently about him. If, the Bills go 13-4 or 14-3, lose to KC in the AFC Championship, 35-32, will you be okay running it back? I’ve asked this before, “at what point is enough, enough for you?” For me, I don’t believe he’s accomplished much more than others would with prime Josh Allen. Where is your line?

Why are we lumping in McDermott and Josh? They are pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of their performances in the biggest moments. Allen has been historically good in the playoffs and McDermott’s defenses have been historically bad. Allen will be here no matter what for the forseeable future. I’ve been screaming to make a change at HC since 13 seconds. I thought last year was McDermott’s best coaching job but the fact remains he hasn’t been any good vs. KC in the playoffs. McDermott is a great guy to take a team in disarray and stabilize them. I have never believed, and have been proven correct so far, that he can take a very good team to the top. At some point, someone else has to be calling the shots. Dwayne Casey was the coach of the year and got fired. The Raptors went on to win the title. Lots of people could win a playoff game or 2 with Josh Allen at QB. To this point McDermott is more Schottenheimer or Marvin Lewis than Belichick or Reid. They cannot continue wasting Josh Allen’s prime if they don’t get it done again. I don’t care that they win 11 or 13 games. They should. Go win a Super Bowl.

They won’t be interested in Rodgers. Carr wasn’t going to play this year anyways. The Saints are going to roll with the rookie. If he sucks, they’ll add the native son.

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He was despised in New Orleans. That’s one of those places that if you don’t embrace, they will hate you. It has a real Buffalo feel to it in that sense. With that being said, he wasn’t going to play anyways. This year is the reset and Shough will be the guy. If he can’t play, and they bottom out, they’ll take a shot on the hometown kid in the draft. The Saints are going to bottom out this year.

There are lots of rumors out there about Ireland. If that happens, it’s against the Steelers wishes. They asked the league to protect the Bills and Packers in Pittsburgh. I’ll be shocked if the league goes against their wishes.

So a rookie DB wants to intercept the league MVP? Am I supposed to have feelings about this?

Appreciate your work on this. Just one question, why are we looking at it through the lens of 53 instead of 51? I am a little confused. Is it in case guys come in and out of the top 51? Just wondering and appreciate your work!!

Not defending this because he’s an idiot. Also, Tua doesn’t belong in the top 5. Apparently though he started by saying, “excluding Tua here are my top 5” or something like that. The story has gone viral but evidently it’s not really accurate.

This feels very fair. That’s been part of the disconnect too. If we are just looking at WRs, they are bad. If we are looking at all of the weapons, they’re a little below league average. The backs and TEs are top 10ish groups. If you add the OL, it moves up. They are a top 5 unit. Josh Allen is the best player in the world at the most important position. They move up again. Is the offense good and are the receivers good are two different conversations.

Production for sure. The WR room has COMBINED for 2 seasons over 800 yards!! Please go through every single team in the league and tell me how many have less? The answer will almost certainly be 0. Shakir is the only guy that’s a top 50 WR in the NFL and he’s probably in the 30 range. If you were to draft every NFL WR start to finish he probably goes around 30 and they may not have another guy picked until 65 or later. There are 32 teams in the league. I’ll throw pedigree in as well. Moore was an early 2 but has disappointed to this point. Coleman was an early 2 but the 8th or 9th WR off the board in his own draft class. Did you he get pushed down because of the strength of the class or pushed up because of the run of them before the next tier dropped off? Palmer was a 3. Shakir was a 5. Samuel was a RB. The pedigree of the Bills WR room pales in comparison to pretty much every team. We went through early in the year using draft trade chart points and how many were allocated to WR. It’s incredibly low. Cooper doesn’t get a pass. He didn’t look like the player he was a year earlier. What, for some reason, is so difficult for you to understand, if the Bills passing game was WAY better in the games he played. You tried to spin that and then I posted the numbers. You then disappeared for 2 days because the truth exposed your narrative. The offense was way better with him. Period. Diggs’ numbers dipped. Diggs also had the best 4 year stretch a Bills receiver ever had. The passing game was better when he was here. There’s no doubt about that. He wasn’t the same player at the end, but if he walked through the door today, coming off the ACL, he’d be the number 1. I challenge you to find any metrics supporting the WRs not being bottom 5. 🤣🤣 There aren’t any other than hope. The OL is excellent. Brady is great. Josh Allen is the best player in football. The WRs are bad compared to other NFL WR groups. Why do you refuse to accept the truth? It doesn’t mean that the Bills can’t produce. Those other factors may be enough to overcome them. It was enough last year. Let’s hope it continues. As an aside, in the future, if you’re going to call someone a liar, please make sure that the numbers won’t tell a different story. You lost a lot of credibility on here trying to spin reality. Whether we agree or not, doesn’t matter. Don’t argue against facts!! The passing game with Cooper was way better than the passing game without. That’s how this whole conversation started. You said that didn’t happen. The numbers said it did.

That’s kind of what I think Alpha. They’ll get less turnovers but more stops. I wonder what that does to average drive start? I have no idea but the improved defense will definitely help.