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  1. The Bills save $19M cutting or trading Diggs post June 1 per both Spotrac and OTC. I am unsure what the confusion is over the post June 1 trades or stipulations in Diggs contract. In a trade the receiving team picks up his contract. Yes. But there is no “how much they are willing”. The NFL isn’t the NHL, you can’t barter what costs to keep in house and what you don’t.. You either take the contract or you don’t make the trade. Worth noting that because of Diggs restructure the receiving team can cut Diggs more or less whenever they want for next no zero cap implications. His cap number for the receiving team would be right around 16th in the league among WR. That decent value with almost no commitment. The $24M I’m talking about is rolling over the $19M. (Assuming they don’t spend it)
  2. Diggs nets us $19M in totally cap dollars in 2024 if we cut/trade him after June 1. If we don’t spend any of that money in the 2024 season it rolls over to 2025. His immediate effect on the 2025 cap if we cut/trade him on June 1 is +$5M. In theory Diggs could give us $24M more dollars if we don’t touch the $19M this year. Forget the dead cap number. The key is the delta between dead cap and cap hit on the roster. Nailed it!
  3. If Diggs is moved I think it will be post June 1. We get $19M for this season and $5M for 2025. BUT!!! That $19M can be rolled over if we don't sign any expensive vets twisting around out there. A post June 1 trade with minimal 2024 spend would mean we could roll most of that $19M over to 2025 ultimately giving us $25M extra next year. It would go a long way in extending Taron, Rousseau, Brown, and Douglas.
  4. Kind of but no. Diggs cap hit on the roster in 2025 is $27M. A post June 1 trade/cut would save us $5M against the cap. Yes he take up $22M not being in the roster. But he’d cost us $27M off of it. The interesting thing is that if Diggs is a post June 1 move and we sit tight on our roster we would roll that $19M over to 2025. In theory he could add $24M cap dollars next season. I would not be shocked if Diggs is a post June 1 move to reset the cap. Because he was restructured the Bills have eaten so much of his bonuses that any team trading for him would get the 16th highest paid WR with next to zero cap implications if they want to cut him. With Rousseau, Douglas, Taron, and Spencer Brown coming do it is a tempting move.
  5. You are correct. A June 1 move would clear $19M If we are $2M over the cap and we trade Stef this instant we would only be $5M over the cap. This has been belabored all offseason. Yes Stefs dead money is $31M. But keeping him on the roster is $28M. The change in cap isn’t the dead money. The change in cap is the delta between his cap hit on the roster and cap hit off of it. So $3M.
  6. No it is not. The cap hit is the cap hit. The Browns in that example had a ton of space so they took on Brock Osweiler and his dumb contract for a 2nd round pick. But they didn't barter what cap number to take off of the Houston Texans books. His number was his number. Cleveland then immediately cut him loose. They more or less purchased a 2nd round pick.
  7. Relax, Diggs is a lot of things but he isn't a Philadelphian. Watch yourself buddy!
  8. Sometimes Diggs goes fishing for controversy, drops something fairly innocuous, but also sort of not, then points at everybody and says "why are you guys always like this". There is a strong possibility that in the next 24 hours his IG is a picture of him in the Caribbean with the caption "Ready for water*" and somewhere in the comments he says "why does everybody keep making a bid deal about typos. None of you have ever had a typo?"
  9. Right but you directly compared Davis to Samuel and their roles are not comparable. Signing Samuel does not upgrade Davis. I guess I am not only responding to you, but so much of this thread is talking about Samuel upgrading Davis that I am sort of responding to everybody. Worth noting that Harty was our starting slot receiver for most of the season. Shakir took the job towards the end/in the playoffs. Samuel is certainly an upgrade to Harty. Shakir has been outplaying the guys in front of him for some time now. I am all for adding more talent, and this signing is definitely that, but the constant veteran leapfrogging of some of our draft picks is a little weird. I am pretty high on Shakir and think he may actually be better than Samuel given full time starter duties/reps.
  10. Totally spitballing, but maybe they did do him a solid on this one? It is kind of a restructure, but kind of like Douglas they basically just added a void year. Curious if maybe they wanted AD to be able to announce his own retirement so they restructured then he announced? Or maybe there is some benefit to the order of operations? Like maybe it was advantageous to the cap to restructure then retire rather than have a retirement settlement?
  11. So weird. What went on here? I believe most contracts have restructure language pre-built in so it isn't something they likely needed to discuss with him. There have been some rumored trade speculation around Donald the last few years. Nothing saying he has requested one, but it has definitely been a topic on most sports shows. Curious if he wanted one last go at a ring this year and the restructure guaranteed that he could not be moved so he called it quits. Trouble wrapping my head around this. Something must have happened internally.
  12. Samuel doesn't play on the outside. He is a slot guy through and through. Comparing him to Davis doesn't make any sense. Two very different roles in the offense. You would want to compare him to Shakir in last years offense. All that said everybody knows the plan is to get a WR to play on the outside in Davis spot. But if there are some growing pains Shakir is a pretty versatile guy who absolutely can play in both positions effectively. I think he has some Robert Woods in him as well. I like the Samuel signing, but we also seem to get these mid-tier FA to block our draft picks at times. Samuel and Shakir seem to be an example of that. Shakir is in a good spot to take on more responsibility in the offense and we just signed his replacement in the slot and the entire world knows that we are going to take an outside guy early. We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent).
  13. I googled that to double check and the very first thing that came up was this article from Sports Illustrated. It was written/released 1 hour ago. Talk about a guy getting it wrong. Sheesh. https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/los-angeles-rams-aaron-donald-contract-restructure-salary-cap#:~:text=However%2C freeing up cap space,indeed be back for 2024.
  14. It’s worth noting that they commit to a lot of interchangeable small speedy inside guys. Even without Tyreek they don’t miss much. They never have anybody with size on the outside with much of any production. This is partially why I thought the Davis criticism was over blown. Not that we don’t need more weapons. But we have seen a number of offenses built around the TE and crisp route running. Diggs/Kincaide is a good enough pairing going forward. We need role players outside of 1 or 2 super stars. Davis is tremendously valuable as a role player. Big strong and speedy on the outside, with enough physicality to be a great run blocker.
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