Jon Feliciano's take on KC playoff game

[julian]

Barely knew ya

[machine gun kelly]

Never a good call to talk badly in anyway about a previous employer.  I’ve had to deal with layoffs in the past as one company buys another, but doesn’t port the Salesforce type stuff.

 

You just avoid like the plague a company who made bad decisions.  Always take the high road.  There’s no upside to trashing someone who let you go.  Dabol saved him and he’ll look better on a bad team.  He’s an average Guard.  That’s all.  Not horrible but he’s no Saffold or even  Bates.

[GoBills808]

Won’t miss him in the slightest 

[Freddie's Dead]

Very strange comments, context or not.  Loved the fire while he was here, but we're stronger without him.  Best of luck to you, Jose'.

[Thurman#1]

5 hours ago, Rigotz said:

"Everyone was just going through the motions ... there was no attitude out there."

 

 

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Mongo.

 

 

 

I assume he was talking about the OL when he was talking about bringing attitude.

 

Particularly the first two years of his stay, he really did appear to provide some attitude when he was on the field. The line appeared to play tougher when he was out there.

 

But he regressed in his level of play last year. Many think it's the weight he lost, and maybe they're right. But it was real and they couldn't put him out there.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Thurman#1

[BuffaloBill]

8 hours ago, transient said:

After watching half of the interview, from the start to well beyond the “clip”, personally I don’t think there’s any context to be taken. He’s not bitter in general about getting cut, but his assessment of the loss in KC is just plain delusional. 
 

The thing I did take away from this interview was basically a confirmation that Allen gets way more beat up than he lets on to the public. Not surprising, and not cool. 

 

 

His comments were odd to say the least.

 

To your second point, Josh Allen should not be a designated runner, period.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

I assume he was talking about the OL when he was talking about bringing attitude.

 

Particularly the first two years of his stay, he really did appear to provide some attitude when he was on the field. The line appeared to play tougher when he was out there.

 

But he regressed in his level of play last year. Many think it's the weight he lost, and maybe they're right. But it was real and they couldn't put him out there.

 

It was weird. He looked small but also fat. 

[NoSaint]

11 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

I want to know what the KC DEFENSE has to do with the loss... that part I just don't get. His statement makes absolutely no sense to me.

you mean mongo might not offer phd level insights?

[Magox]

Even though Feliciano's play dropped off last year, overall he was a bargain player that played with lots of emotion.  Overall, he was a net plus.  With that said, this is just bitterness on his part for losing his starting job.

[Doc]

Have fun with that offense, Mongo.

[DCbillsfan]

10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He sounds like he has the IQ of a shoe.

Yes, one of those big, red shoes that's worn by a clown.

Edited May 20, 2022 by DCbillsfan

[Rigotz]

11 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Exactly my thoughts as well Rigotz.

 

Took me a minute, but I got it!

[Big Turk]

Sounds like sour grapes he was forced to leave somewhere he wanted to be. Kinda like Spain.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Big Turk

[benderbender]

Feliciano was my guy. He is into video games, crypto, and has a healthy distrust of government. Plus, he literally carried our RBs forward. He seemed to represent Bills Mafia. Then he lost his spot and suddenly we had an OL that was so Bills Mafia it embodied the chicken wing itself. 

 

His contract extension in 2021 gave him more guaranteed money in exchange for making him a FA this year instead of 2024. His sour grapes comes from the FO not convinced he was worth the money and telling him to prove it. He did not.  

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

I assume he was talking about the OL when he was talking about bringing attitude.

 

Particularly the first two years of his stay, he really did appear to provide some attitude when he was on the field. The line appeared to play tougher when he was out there.

 

But he regressed in his level of play last year. Many think it's the weight he lost, and maybe they're right. But it was real and they couldn't put him out there.

 

Attitude has its place.  Mongo was our "enforcer".  Remember Bosa corkscrewing Josh Allen into the ground on a tackle?  Josh was down after the play and Bosa immediately started babbling at our OL about how he wasn't trying to hurt the guy, he was just trying to tackle him, he's HUGE, what do you want me to do?

 

Bosa wasn't apologizing.  He wasn't concerned for Josh.  He was worried that Feliciano was gonna rip his balls off under the cover of a football pile.   Finally Mongo said "You're OK" and Bosa shut up, no longer fearing for his 'nads.

 

That was a helpful deterrent factor for Josh in 2019 as he was stiff-arming linebackers and running over defensive ends.  But when Von Miller calls a guy a "creature" and whatever it was Aaron Donald called him (a "beast"?), ordinary defenders take less ***** in the film room on Monday.

 

I agree with everyone who said that Feliciano's play really appeared to have fallen off.  In that interview, he blames Covid and says if he hadn't caught Covid he thought he'd still have been starting.   I'm not clear on that.  The OL blew wads at the start of the season, and the Bills were clearly trying to shift guys around and find a workable line.   Feliciano was inactive for game 4 and an OL of Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Williams-Brown helped with 444 yds and 4 TDs.   Covid forced the switch, but I think Boettger would have been given a shot sooner or later in any event.

[Jauronimo]

12 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Yeah I’m confused too. He seems to be saying that the Bills offense was just going through the motions and if they had more toughness “it would have been a close game”.

 

um. huh? It was a close game. It went to overtime. Isn’t that pretty much the definition of a close game?

He said it "wouldn't" have been so close were he playing.  Mongo would have made sure we never punted somehow?

[MJS]

That's what happens when you suck at playing. You get benched.

 

The offense went out and played amazing. Feliciano would not have done anything but make it worse.

[damj]

13 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Taking some shots at the Bills.

 

 

And we would've won State if coach put him in the 4th quarter

 

 

[BillsFan4]

58 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

He said it "wouldn't" have been so close were he playing.  Mongo would have made sure we never punted somehow?

Ah, ok. That makes more sense. I still disagree. But I couldn’t even figure out wtf he was talking about before. I was like “is he thinking of the 2020 afc championship or something?” 😂

[Brand J]

12 hours ago, NewEra said:

He’s the reason we didn’t win the SB.  Watch the 4th and 1 vs Tennessee….. if he blocks his man instead of getting manhandled and thrown in his back and on top of Josh, we probably get the 1st, win the game and clinch home field advantage. Dawkins got obliterated too…..but Mongo getting clobbered coupled with josh slipping and hope was lost regardless of dion.

 

you suck Jon.  ☮️ 

He’s doing his own thing now.  Covers a lot of stuff.  He’s a die hard Bills fan

Some of the blame on this play also lies at the feet of Allen (no pun intended). Give TN credit, in their scouting report they were told “Allen always sneaks to the left,” so they lined two lineman on that side shoulder to shoulder, inches apart, and sure enough Josh still tried the sneak over there. Had he gone to his right, he likely would’ve walked in for the TD. 

[Ralonzo]

10 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Some of the blame on this play also lies at the feet of Allen (no pun intended). Give TN credit, in their scouting report they were told “Allen always sneaks to the left,” so they lined two lineman on that side shoulder to shoulder, inches apart, and sure enough Josh still tried the sneak over there. Had he gone to his right, he likely would’ve walked in for the TD. 

If you’re that predictable in those situations, that’s on the OC and play callers.

[essential]

14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Ariel Helwani covers the MMA.  I guess it's real slow for him right now talking to a back up level NFL guard.

 

Helwani is a massive Bills fan.

[Nuncha]

He's just angry he's out of Buffalo and his career is pretty much done.  He was a shadow of himself last season after the injury bug took him out.  Maybe he didn't see the "attitude" Josh Allen played with, and seriously if he "missed" that, he is someone I wouldn't want to go to war with week in and week out.

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Azucho98

[stevewin]

Thought for sure this was going to be about 13 Seconds 

[ndirish1978]

Sour grapes. Our offense had nothing to do with losing that game. 

[NewEra]

58 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Some of the blame on this play also lies at the feet of Allen (no pun intended). Give TN credit, in their scouting report they were told “Allen always sneaks to the left,” so they lined two lineman on that side shoulder to shoulder, inches apart, and sure enough Josh still tried the sneak over there. Had he gone to his right, he likely would’ve walked in for the TD. 

Yeah, he slipped…..but if Mongo held his block……it would’ve been a first down. Instead, he compounded the slip by getting walloped and landing on 17s back

[Nextmanup]

Good for him!  He told it the way he sees it.  You don't have to agree with it; that's how this works.  

Would you prefer him to say nothing in a few sound bytes of idiotic athlete-speak?

 

 

[JohnNord]

17 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Taking some shots at the Bills.

 

 

 

 

I listened this whole interview… I can’t see how this wasn’t a shot at the team.  It sounded like he was pissed about not starting and said “well they got what they deserved for not playing me.”  I get that players are ultra competitive but being spiteful like that probably says something about his character.

 

I’ll say that I don’t think Jon was realistic about his abilities.  For the majority of his time in Buffalo he was average at best at guard.  Many times he just wasn’t very good. I don’t mind that the Bills traded Bates for Feliciano.  He seems to be the better, more athletic player at guard.

 

Also he glanced over last season in Buffalo.  The rumors were that he reported to camp 30 pounds lighter without telling the training staff which seemed to contribute to his slow start.   Then when he got benched, he had a pretty bad attitude.   He knew that he was a goner but from what I seemed to hear, there were issues with him and front office 

[transplantbillsfan]

What?!?! No attitude out there???

[FilthyBeast]

Feliciano was a waste of space and another bad move in hindsight when you consider it indirectly led to Wyatt Teller being traded because guys like Bobby Johnson thought he was a better player.

 

But he's not completely wrong about this defense. Some folks like myself have cited this scheme/coaching as a major issue for some time despite the misleading yards allowed numbers, especially last year.

 

Yes this defense has looked like world beaters against rookies and backup caliber competition through the years. But face a real NFL QB and/or physical style running team and they are consistently exposed and as soft as it gets (especially the resident whipping by Edmunds who plays as small as possible against said teams in big games).

 

I think Von Miller will certainly help on the pass rush front, but there's zero evidence that it's not going to be more of the same this year and the hot takes out there about this defense taking a big step back (in terms of overall rankings) this year aren't necessarily that bold when you consider the type of QB's we'll be seeing week in and week out.

[eball]

Don’t let the door hit you in the arse on your way out, Jon.

[Chandler#81]

Interesting rhetoric from a guy who lost his starting job and unceremoniously booted to the curb..

Then again, Mongo’s aren’t noted for their intelligence. 🤷‍♂️

[Airseven]

Don't care to listen to the clip, but the Bills deserve any and all criticism. Fans act like the Super Bowl was somehow stolen from them last year. No, the team was inconsistent all year (Allen included), played a wildly entertaining game against KC, and blew it in inexplicable and historic fashion...as the Bills often find a way to do.  

[Marv's Neighbor]

DIRTBAG??

 

https://nypost.com/2022/05/20/giants-bringing-new-dirtbag-mindset-to-offensive-line/

[thenorthremembers]

19 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I didn't knw that about Ariel.  I think he's from Toronto maybe?  I like him covering the MMA.

Yeah man it was pretty surprising to hear he was a life long Bills fan.  Enjoy his MMA coverage as well.   I enjoy that he gets under Dana's skin a bit.

[Shake_My_Head]

Lol.  I didn't even remember he was on the team in 2021.  

[John from Riverside]

I really just dont undertand the Mongo thing......

 

- Number 1 he is wrong.....that offense played lights out......Bates was actually better then him that year

- Number 2 when Mongo actually had a chance to back up this mouth......he failed miserably

- He is going to say this now that he is not on the team?

[RocCityRoller]

I'd be careful to judge someone based a small isolated clip from an hour long interview.

I listened to about 25 minutes and 'the rest of the story' tells a very different tale than this clip.

 

I think his comments were meant to say the team came out flat against KC.

Other than Allen and Davis who showed up? Beasley, maybe Ed Oliver or Taron Johnson.

That was it. Diggs, Knox and Singletary disappeared and no one on D stepped up to make a play.

 

He is clearly hurt he was cut from a competing team where he became a starter, and feels like he could have contributed.

 

Feliciano does not hold back on any topic and tells it how he feels about things, which is honestly refreshing from a pro athlete.

Poor Conner Cook LOL

 

As for being 'washed up' he is penciled in as the starting C for the OL the Giants are retooling down there.

[Bad Things]

He's over rated and I'm glad he's gone.

[SirAndrew]

3 hours ago, Airseven said:

Don't care to listen to the clip, but the Bills deserve any and all criticism. Fans act like the Super Bowl was somehow stolen from them last year. No, the team was inconsistent all year (Allen included), played a wildly entertaining game against KC, and blew it in inexplicable and historic fashion...as the Bills often find a way to do.  

Yeah, I have high hopes for 2002, just as everyone else. However, the 2020 Bills were better than the 2021 Bills. I think the Pats Wild Card win helped raise expectations to a Super Bowl or bust mentality, when in actuality we were better the previous season. Here’s to 2022 being the season we put it all together.