BillsFan4

I don’t think you’re lying or anything. And no need to apologize. I know I can get defensive as well. I don’t mean to. I guess some of it just comes down to what people experience for themselves. If you had a mild case, and the people you know had mild cases (or if you’ve dealt with limited + mild cases as a doctor/nurse), you’re probably more likely to think this virus isn’t serious. I’m not discounting your experience, but there are many people with a much different experience than yours. I don’t think it would be right to share some of the stories I’ve been told (and I wouldn’t really feel comfortable doing so anyway) but I will say I have an ex I’m close with who works in a hospital in NYC that’s dealt with a lot of coronavirus and she tells me some horror stories. She’s having a tough time dealing with everything she’s seen. I feel so terrible for her. It breaks my heart. I wish there was more I could do for her. Without getting into too much detail, she’s told me about patients with all sorts of issues from this virus - severe swelling, seizures, strokes, blood clots, heart attacks, lesions, rashes, organ failure (esp. kidneys), etc. And these are not all elderly patients either. Many are in their 40’s and 50’s (and some in their 20’s and 30’s). She’s still dealing with patients that have ongoing health issues from getting this virus back in March. I have 3 family members who work at hospitals and/or medical facilities in MA. My cousin is the director at one. They’ve all said this is like nothing they’ve ever seen before. Again, some of the stories I’ve heard are terrible. Another cousins husband works at a hospital. She said he’s scared to death to get this virus from what he’s seen of it. Said he wakes up sick every morning from nerves/worry, but wouldn’t feel right quitting/leaving. So he goes in every day and does his job. Brave (IMO). Same goes for a friend who works in healthcare in MI. I have another dr. friend in NYC. He’s 65. He came out of retirement to help (even though many asked him not to, including me). He said these are some of the sickest patients he’s ever dealt with in his career (he owned a private practice). My best friend’s wife works at a hospital designated for covid. She has been staying at a motel since April out of fear of infecting her husband and their young child. I have family in NYC who know quite a few hit pretty hard by this virus. None were over 65. One of my cousin’s son’s friends (from his hockey team) is in the hospital. My friend’s 45yr old neighbor, who was an avid runner, died from this virus. He was in the hospital for over a month and unfortunately passed. My next door neighbor had a number of her family members get very sick with covid. Her young niece was in the hospital for 3 weeks. I could go on. There are also similar stories from doctors and nurses all over the Internet too. Did you ever see any of the videos from inside covid wards? Or the “a day in the life of a healthcare worker” videos that have been put out? I agree about WNY though. I know a lot of people here who aren’t taking this virus seriously. I moved back to WNY a while ago and it seems like all the people I talk to from elsewhere are all taking things more seriously. But living in WNY I obviously talk to more people here than those other places, so it’s not really a fair comparison. But there are definitely doctors here taking it serious. You mentioned Roswell. I can tell you that they are taking it very serious there (they have to), as you probably know from the screening procedure you have to go through to enter the building (have temp. taken, take off old mask, sanitize hands, put on quality surgical mask provided by Roswell and leave it on the entire time, answer numerous screening questions, no visitor access to certain floors, cleaning+sanitizing around the clock). The director there is taking every precaution they can. Roswell actually volunteered to be one of the trial hospitals to start allowing visitors again because they were so confident in their safety procedures. They have only dealt with a few total covid cases (iirc it was 3) and that was pretty early on in the pandemic. They were able to keep it contained to those few patients. It didn’t spread to anyone else in the hospital. So their experience with covid is somewhat limited. Anyway... best wishes on whatever your facing! I hope all goes well for you. You’ll be in my thoughts.

I just addressed this issue yesterday in this thread. My post on it is 2 pages back. it was federal policy. Here’s the link: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/3-13-2020-nursing-home-guidance-covid-19.pdf Bottom of page 4. And most of the nursing homes already had covid outbreaks before the patients were sent back there (how do you think someone living in a nursing home got covid in the 1st place, to be sent to the hospital for it?)

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All of the medical professional I know say the exact opposite. I have numerous friends and family in healthcare. A couple work at hospitals that have dealt with a lot of covid cases. The stories they tell scare the **** out of me.

new Yale study (supported by the national institute of health): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980 ‘Estimation of Excess Deaths Associated With the COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States, March to May 2020‘ “Our analyses suggest that the official tally of deaths due to Covid-19 represent a substantial undercount of the true burden,” Dan Weinberger, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health and a lead author on the study, said.” Summary: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html

Originally at least 1 hub city was supposed to be in the US. They were actually planning on having both here for a while. Now it looks like neither will be in the US. Can’t say I blame them.

No thanks, I’ll take my chances on Mittelstadt over Zacha at this point. Zacha is 5yrs removed from the draft and has 4 NHL seasons (of 6”+ games) under his belt. I don’t know if Mittelstadt will ever live up to the draft hype but I’m not ready to give up on him yet. I’d include him in a package to get a legit, good #2 C under 30 if that’s what it took. Not really looking for a Nylander/Jokiharju type trade for Mitts yet (not that it’s up to me...).

Please oh Please hire this man!! He is exactly what Adams needs. One of the best talent evaluators in the NHL. I think he’s improved the scouting of almost every team he’s worked for. and the hybrid scouting model he put together in Carolina is exactly what Adams is trying to do here: https://buffalonews.com/news/rick-dudleys-hybrid-scouting-model-in-carolina-could-be-option-for-sabres/article_8023a4cb-b40b-53ec-b835-ccf13cb0cd3a.html Plus he still owns a home in Buffalo. I can’t imagine a much more perfect hire than Dudley.

Hey, no worries! No thing to apologize for.

They are reopening and have been for over a month now. They’re just following the CDC guidelines. Western NY just entered into phase 4 today (the final phase). You can’t just reopen with total disregard for this virus or you get big spikes/outbreaks.

That was part of what I was talking about when I said mistakes were made early. My post was on how they suppressed the spread of this virus. And this subject has already been addressed multiple times in this thread. It was not 100% on Cuomo. It was a federal policy that was issued at the time. So there is blame to be shared. Link: :https://www.cms.gov/files/document/3-13-2020-nursing-home-guidance-covid-19.pdf and here is part of one of Hapless’s posts on nursing homes: But again, my point was how they have reopened and what they’ve done to suppress the spread of this virus that has worked. Obviously no state should be sending contagious Covid patients back to nursing homes. It was a mistake and should not be repeated. Nor should any of the other mistakes NYS made (of which there were numerous, especially early on). But shouldn’t we also learn from what NYS has done right? And I’m not sure I’d say that Florida is getting their first wave. They had over 27,000 cases back in April. They had their first cases back in early March. They shut down once already for coronavirus. This current spike seems to be related to how they reopened. Florida coronavirus timeline: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/03/20/timeline-the-spread-of-coronavirus-in-florida/

I was talking about how they’ve suppressed their outbreak, not how they got it in March. Mistakes were definitely made early on. There’s no denying that.

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https://www.wxxinews.org/post/ny-reported-only-5-covid-19-deaths-saturday-cuomo-says NY reported only 5 COVID-19 deaths Saturday Great news! ^ This is the real goal. Not just to keep hospitals from being overrun (a very low bar in my book). The real goal should be to stop so many people from dying every day from this virus. To suppress the spread. The bold shows that more testing doesn’t automatically have to = rising case numbers. Yes, you want to test and find more cases, but the ultimate reason for more testing is to get the positive case numbers trending Down, not Up. If you’re testing more and just keep finding more and more and more cases, you’re doing something wrong. You have to give NY credit for the way they’ve handled the largest outbreak (so far) in the country. It’s a shame all 50 states aren’t in the same position. I feel like they (more/less) could be if they had just followed the same guidelines NY did. There doesn’t seem to be any magic secret. Just follow the CDC guidelines for reopening, wear masks and social distance.