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Rnd 2 - Pick 62: CB Davison Igbinosun - Ohio State
RocCityRoller replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Bills signed Dee Alford to be the Nickel CB in Free Agency This pick, well this was a pick -
ok, you made your point, but a 4th LB in a 3-4 is important, not a 'Buffalo Joe'. I disagree, who is your 1st round pick???
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Hey Kirby, I think LB is in play. You think other positions are at play. Who and and what positions!?! I am honestly curious...
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I am on the Hill camp. I think CJ Allen is a terrific athlete, if the Bills get him, fine. I believe Hill Jr. is the better ILB and would do better here. I don't think either will be available which is why I think Rodriguez is the play here. EdIt: PS great post LB at 26 is both needed and realistic Who is your 4th LB on the current roster????
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Fair enough. I did not understand that void years remain with a team that signed them. Now I know. I do know that contracts can be massaged. See Wilson and the Broncos and Steelers.
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Exactly where I was. An astute member here told me the Void years still count to the original team. Most AI searches agree. Unless the Giants ate cap, it would be a worse trade than I anticipated. I remember wanting DJ Reader in the draft... Corleone seems the same guy IMO
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Ed is not a natural fit in a 3-4 unless he becomes a (+) DE. And yes I liked Epenessa Great point on DJ Jones. He is only 6'0".... He is 305.
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This made me look up void cap hits. You are correct, teams using the void contract are on the hook for the void years, and they may escalate... So no this is not a potential trade. Ed Oliver will cost $10 vs future caps going forward.... uggh, or worse be escalated forward... What a mess. Thank you for the correction.
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Ed is 'not much cheaper'. He has $10 million in void years till 2030. Both players have about $40 million in guarantees at the moment. Ed is also not a natural fit in a 3-4. He has T-Rex arms for a 3-4 DE, and is not heavy enough to be a NT. Trade your assets while they have value.
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Is paying a 3T DT in a 3-4 through 2030 better??? Ed is going to be paid by the Bills through 2030...
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The only reason this seems off is because the Giants are also moving to a 3-4. Lawrence (6'4 340) is penciled in as the NT in NY. He should be fine as NT in the modern NFL. Ed Oliver (6'1 290) is probably going to try out at DE for the Bills, and NT in pass rush situations. Lawrence's contract is a bit beefier than Oliver's is, but it has no voidable years. He also does not want to be in NYC anymore. Oliver's contract has $10 million in void years..... Buffalo could avoid void cap hell and a bad fit with a trade of Oliver. Both players have 4 yr playable contracts going into 2027. Both currently have $40ish million in guarantees. I hope the Bills have contacted the Giants about this trade. Would Harbaugh find a way to get Oliver on the field? or could the Giants use Oliver as trade bait elsewhere? At 6'1 290 Ed could be a solid 3-4 DE. But he lacks the length to be a natural there. He is also Buffalo's best trade bait. What do you think???
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Can Dorian Williams become an Edge?
RocCityRoller replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall
Williams is not a 3-4 edge. He is 6'2 230ish. Williams is an inside out LB. Just a reminder of the inside out potential of D Williams He did start 11 games in 2024. 117 total tackles (68 solo), 5 Tackles for a loss, 3 Forced fumbles and a FR. He is better inside in a 3-4 or as a Will. Oliver is not a good fit in a 3-4. His lack of size hurts at NT. His lack of length hurts as a 3-4 DE. His twitch and pass rush does allow some consideration at DE. He is not a good fit, and I would trade him to a team with a 4-3, unless the idea is to try him at DE. Trade Ed Oliver for Dexter Lawrence -
Can Dorian Williams become an Edge?
RocCityRoller replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall
hey @3rdand12 good to see you. At Tulane Williams lined up all over the LB position. MLB, Big Nickel over the slot, OLB etc. Solid at all, his size 6'2 230 ish allows him to play 'inside-out', his speed is also excellent. The Bills did address LB, with Bradley Chubb. Chubb can play OLB or DE. I think of him as a more athletic Lorax. He will probably play OLB in this defense. He is effective at both. Of all the FA Buffalo could sign, this was the best, and I applaud Beane for getting him under contract. Perfect fit. So Bills will have Chubb, Bernard and Williams at LB. They need one more starter quality guy. I'm not sure where Leonhard sees Williams and Bernard. Both are a bit light to be paired inside so I expect one to go to WILL (Weak side). Right now I think that is Williams. He has shown a flash in pass rush. I know the sack numbers aren't there but he gets hurries and hits. He has shown ability as a support LB. He had 68 solo tackles as an 11 game starter in 2024. This is why I like Rodriguez so much. His speed is not OLB speed. Rodriguez will not be as effective as a MLB in a 4-3, but as part of a ILB duo he will be a menace. This is why I like Rodriguez so much for Buffalo. Rodriguez fills a need and the scheme fit IMO.
