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I think in order to truly evaluate this question you first need an agreed-upon list of who the "franchise QBs" are in the league. I'll suggest that these are QBs who were drafted highly and are either still on the team they were drafted by or have received a significant multi-year contract from their current team. This eliminates journeymen or 1-year FA signees. In no particular order: AFC: Allen Mahomes Burrow Tua Maye Jackson Herbert Geno Nix Stroud Lawrence Ward NFC: Hurts Prescott Daniels Love Wilson Goff Mayfield Young Murray Purdy Stafford Darnold On that list I'm throwing out the rookies or 2nd year guys because we truly don't know yet, so Daniels, Maye, Ward, Nix, and Wilson come off. Based upon all of that, Bryce Young might be the worst "franchise" QB in the league. If we only look at guys with 2nd (or 3rd) contracts then I'd say Darnold kind of sticks out like a sore thumb, although Lawrence is right behind him. I think Murray has done more than either of those two guys. It's definitely not Baker.

Mafia Con Not really my cup of tea, but looks like they’ve gotten a good haul of players who will show up. Right before camp starts.

Yup. Some Americans think anything that happens in ‘merica means more because it’s ‘merica, despite the fact that the rest of the world has somehow been able to handle legalized gambling on sports.

Well played my friend. Well played.

I just continue to laugh and roll my eyes at those who say Pegula “cheaped out” on the new stadium…the place is going to be amazing.

I can totally understand that. My perspective is as an adult with no kids.

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not emotional at all about the Bills leaving Rich/Ralph/New Era/Highmark for that beautiful building across the street. Sure, I have a ton of great memories in the stadium but it’s not like the Bills are leaving Buffalo, and the new place is going to be amazing. And let’s face it, while Rich may have been “cutting edge” in 1973 by the 90s it was a shithole. They’ve slapped a whole lot of lipstick on that pig and it’s time to go.

Before this season I’d have said Hyde. Now that he’s gone, it’s a very difficult decision because the Bills actually do have a lot of likable players who are also very good at their jobs. It’s between Dawkins, Shakir, Bernard, Benford, Knox, and Tre. Their combination of play + personality/character are pretty awesome. Milano is close, but his complete lack of personality or public persona drive him down the list. Fun topic.

But will we get swept? I’m interested to see how the “last regular season game in the stadium” dynamic plays out. The place will be packed because there are a good number of fans who can’t necessarily buy playoff tickets and they’ll want to see the game. But at the end of the day, if this team is what we think they are they’ll know they have more home games coming and McD won’t do anything to jeopardize their health going into the playoffs. Love the “dead rubber” comment

Camp is kinda fun. I went last year for the first time since the Fredonia days and I came to the conclusion that at least for me, the idea of going to a training camp practice is much better than the actual experience. But to each his own.

Ralph is cheap.

VHS or Beta?

Don't tell me what to do, man....

It’s easier for me to separate out the top 15 offense and defense. I don’t know how to “compare” an offensive player to a defensive player for the purposes of ranking them. My top 15 Bills on offense (that I saw play) are (in no particular order): Josh, Kelly, Ferguson, OJ, Thurman, Cribbs, Shady, Reed, Lofton, Moulds, Diggs, Hull, Ritcher, Ruben Brown, Joe DeLamielleure. So I’ve got 3 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 WRs, and 4 OL. Top 15 defense (that I saw play) are (also in no particular order): Bruce, Biscuit, Talley, Hansen, Smerlas, Haslett, Nelson, Hyde, Poyer, Ted Washington, Odomes, Paup, Kyle Williams, Milano, Winfield. That’s 6 DL (incl. Paup), 5 LB, and 4 DB.

Steve, the guys defending Kelly right now are the same ones who wanted him benched for Reich back in the day. Kelly’s a legit HOFer and his teams went to four consecutive SBs. He’s on the list. But the Bills have won so many games because of Josh Allen and I find it hard to recall telling myself that back in the 90s about Kelly. Usually I was thinking about how great Bruce was, or Thurman, or how Reed just ran away from people after catching a short pass. Folks just don’t really remember how freaking talented those rosters were.

Tasker's not one of the 15 greatest Bills...not by a longshot.

One of Promo's 4 friends stopped watching.

Well, the other 80% are clearly a$$.

@Kirby Jackson I think I can hack your scenario. I turn down the cash, but then since I know the Bills are going to win the SB I bet them big. Win-win.

I think I’m there also. I’m semi-retired and comfortable so the money doesn’t mean all that much…would need to be crazy $$ for me to give up the chance of the Bills winning it.

That explains a lot.

Sunday Ticket renewal is $420, but they’re letting you pay it $35/month. Also included a snippet about buying individual months of ST, which is new.

I just got an email today…will check it out and report back.

Yes, I’m quoting and bumping my own post, because I’m really disappointed in all of you.

Try again, in English?