rayray808 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Rotoworld already rumored us to be in the mix but I think it makes total sense: 1) A back up with starter potential - should Josh Allen ever get hurt for multiple games, Rosen has a higher ceiling that Barkley. 2) A healthy competition to push JA - Lots of the top QB's around the league have solid back ups behind them to help the starter remain accountable - Rodgers/Love, Brees/Winston, Carr/Mariota, Trubisky/Foles, Wentz/Hurns, Baker/Keenum, Prescott/Dalton I love Josh Allen and think he can be our franchise QB, but I would feel a lot safer seeing him hurdle opponents with Rosen holding the clipboard. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Can he be that much worse than Matt Barkley? I question whether Josh Allen would rather have Rosen in our qb room over of Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 What has Rosen done or shown to even suggest he’s better than Barkley? Or Fromm? Rosens play has been at a disaster level. I’ll be the first to admit he’s been in bad spots when asked to play but he’s still shown nothing that we don’t already have. I’d rather be go to Seattle or the giants or Atlanta or somewhere in the NFC where he’ll have a shot to actually sit and learn and get his redemption chance later. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The attitude rumors have to be somewhat real at this point, right? Either he's a limited QB, or he's a potentially talented QB with a bad attitude. I don't want either. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Wrong-Right and Right-Wrong Josh in one room, huh? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Well, we do a chance to make up for being one of the "nine mistakes" teams that passed on him in the draft. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) This scares me.He's sort of like a slightly more talented more hyped Nate Peterman. Noodle arm, stares receivers down, propensity for turnovers. Having said all this I trust the front office. A lot of people knocked us for taking Rosen and I will admit I wanted to see that be the pick over Allen. Happy to be dead wrong on that one. Edited September 5, 2020 by KzooMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Well, we do a chance to make up for being one of the "nine mistakes" teams that passed on him in the draft. So if we do that but put him behind Allen is that the same mistake or an additional one? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So if we do that but put him behind Allen is that the same mistake or an additional one? Definitely an additional one. I was told for four months how he was the most pro ready and a carbon copy of Eli Manning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 No! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 He's a bust-just couldn't make it at the next level. No reason to add him to the mix when he's no better than Davis Webb, who already knows the offense. Rosen is a prime example of fans who "saw him play in college" and expected big things. The problem is the NFL is so much faster than college that until the guy actually shows he can play it doesn't matter what he did in college. It's so difficult to determine the bust factor on a lot of QBs because the players they face in college are not NFL caliber & until they face the real thing, you just never know. From the reports, Rosen's biggest problem is his inability to read NFL D's. As a result, he'll never be anyone who can push a starter and for our team to waste their time on him is totally unnecessary. Now if Beane wants to put him on the practice squad over Fromm, I wouldn't object, but he has no business anywhere near the active roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, KzooMike said: This scares me.He's sort of like a slightly more talented more hyped Nate Peterman. Noodle arm, stares receivers down, propensity for turnovers. Having said all this I trust the front office. A lot of people knocked us for taking Rosen and I will admit I wanted to see that be the pick over Allen. Happy to be dead wrong on that one. If you think Rosen has a noodle arm, you might not know much about him. He has a pretty good arm, and as far as athletic ability goes, is worlds apart from Peterman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Rosen doesn't seem like a process guy... Yeah, he seems more like the "poison the starter's gatorade" kind of guy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 His face still screams - “punch me” 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Rosen’s not coming to Buffalo. Not happening. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rc2catch said: What has Rosen done or shown to even suggest he’s better than Barkley? Or Fromm? Rosens play has been at a disaster level. I’ll be the first to admit he’s been in bad spots when asked to play but he’s still shown nothing that we don’t already have. I’d rather be go to Seattle or the giants or Atlanta or somewhere in the NFC where he’ll have a shot to actually sit and learn and get his redemption chance later. This! He has no value, absolutely no value, to the Buffalo Bills. https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1302053253736288264?s=20 Edited September 5, 2020 by CSBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I joked about Rosen in another thread but actually I'd like to see us bring him in. The guy hasn't had much luck so far and zero consistency in his environments and systems. He's still an unknown quantity and so long as his confidence isn't totally shot to hell, he could still prove the doubters wrong or at least become a viable backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Remember when a bunch of people were pissed the bills took allen over rosen. Just true you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 How about NOOO Scott! www.zipit.com.org. This guy was lazy by all reports, and has been traded once, now a second time. Why give up a draft pick for this guy, or even take him if released. Noodle arm, lazy and a bad attitude. Yeah, that’s a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, clearwater cadet said: Remember when a bunch of people were pissed the bills took allen over rosen. Just true you never know. I was one of those people. There were a lot of those people. They showed a video of the draft party at the Field House after the pick was announced, there were mostly boos. But within 24 hrs I was all in on Allen. Comparing interviews Rosen just sounded like an entitled brat that was handed everything in life whereas Allen had to work hard to get where he was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Weird that the guys at One Bills Drive knew more than this message board on draft day. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Waiting for "wrong Josh" to chime in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: No! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 That's a nope on Rosen. I'd rather take my chances with Barkley and that tells you about all you need to know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I admit that I was a Rosen proponent on draft day a few years ago, however he does not need to be a Bill. It will put a very weird and unnecessary faux QB controversy at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Rc2catch said: What has Rosen done or shown to even suggest he’s better than Barkley? Or Fromm? Rosens play has been at a disaster level. I’ll be the first to admit he’s been in bad spots when asked to play but he’s still shown nothing that we don’t already have. I’d rather be go to Seattle or the giants or Atlanta or somewhere in the NFC where he’ll have a shot to actually sit and learn and get his redemption chance later. If the situations were reversed between Allen and Rosen, no one would be defending Allen for being dealt a tough hand. It would have been "case closed" because that was the pre-draft assessment of Allen. But because Rosen had believers there's all this excuse-making now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 @26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 This falls into trying to collect talent vs team building. It could be argued that it would not even add talent and the Bills are better off with Barkley overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Hard Pass. The dynamic of having rosen in the same QB room as Allen doesn’t seem like it would be good. these guys were drafted together and on the same trajectory— I can see a sort of cold relationship there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: This falls into trying to collect talent vs team building. It could be argued that it would not even add talent and the Bills are better off with Barkley overall. As far as Allen’s game preparation and over all improvement goes , I think Berkeley knows his role and I want him in that QB room and NOT Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, NewEra said: Can he be that much worse than Matt Barkley? I question whether Josh Allen would rather have Rosen in our qb room over of Barkley. Can he dance better to Renegade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, rayray808 said: Rotoworld already rumored us to be in the mix but I think it makes total sense: 1) A back up with starter potential - should Josh Allen ever get hurt for multiple games, Rosen has a higher ceiling that Barkley. 2) A healthy competition to push JA - Lots of the top QB's around the league have solid back ups behind them to help the starter remain accountable - Rodgers/Love, Brees/Winston, Carr/Mariota, Trubisky/Foles, Wentz/Hurns, Baker/Keenum, Prescott/Dalton I love Josh Allen and think he can be our franchise QB, but I would feel a lot safer seeing him hurdle opponents with Rosen holding the clipboard. Can you provide tangible examples of how the back-up QBs in your silly example have pushed the starters and helped them remain accountable? And what does holding them accountable even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: If you think Rosen has a noodle arm, you might not know much about him. He has a pretty good arm, and as far as athletic ability goes, is worlds apart from Peterman. Even the Miami HC said he had the best arm in camp. Just can t read a defense. Maybe that can be taught. No attitude issues reported. Buffalo is not the right place for him. He needs to go to a place to learn from a true veteran Or a great offensive minded HC. New Orleans, Seattle, KC, Philadelphia, LA Rams. 2 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: Remember when a bunch of people were pissed the bills took allen over rosen. Just true you never know. Allen was my number 1 but Rosen was my number 2 With Mayfield, Jackson and Darnold at 3,4,5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Bring in the guy who was drafted 10th overall and has the distinction of having both teams he’s played for draft a QB in the first round in successive seasons because he’s shown so much promise? At the risk of souring the QB room? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Nelius said: The attitude rumors have to be somewhat real at this point, right? Either he's a limited QB, or he's a potentially talented QB with a bad attitude. I don't want either. Thank you, Nelius. Man o man, why isn’t the first thing that comes up on this guy the “fact” that he is a complete d**k? ...and this isn’t just from the major media bleeps and bloops since before the draft. This is from others. Please, this also isn’t about his politics. If I didn’t want a douche as a starter and how this team wouldn’t react well to his “leadership”, why would I want him as a back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 If Rosen has any potential at all I expect him to be a Steeler or Patriot before week 2 of the season. If not, then close the book on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Can you provide tangible examples of how the back-up QBs in your silly example have pushed the starters and helped them remain accountable? And what does holding them accountable even mean? Well right now, all of those starting QBs are tied for leading the league in wins and every statistical QB stat category! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Id honestly be intrigued about picking him up. But man....he’s kinda be a waste of a roster spot. He’d be useless for several weeks as he learns the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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