Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[RyanC883]

8 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

 

wha happened on this call?

[The Red King]

Just now, SDS said:

Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator.
 

What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. 

 

I asked nicely.  I begged.  And right now can't handle this.  Keep attacking each other, if you think that is what is important right now.  I'm going to try and sleep because I don't want to see Bills' fans acting like this any more.

[longtimebillsfan]

1 minute ago, NUT said:

At this point yes, but at some point in the near future this has to be figured out, and a precedent will be set.

Just not sure how this game can be rescheduled.

 

The Players are not going to be mentally or emotionally ready to play in the next day or two.

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

I should probably just shut up about it and let people vent if it makes them feel better at this point 🤷‍♂️

 

I think people want someone to blame in today's society but the time between the ambulance leaving and the NFL postponing the game was like 30 minutes. A lot can change in mere minutes when facts are conveyed and then reconveyed to get people to understand the severity. I've been on my share of conference calls diagnosing critical issues where that's been the case.

 

Maybe the NFL should have understood quicker and maybe they did make a mistake but maybe people should stop blaming and maybe think the NFL enacted preexisting protocol and then when players pushed back and reconveyed the facts, they said "oh ok, yeah that makes sense". It happens all the time.

[RyanC883]

7 minutes ago, appoo said:

 

 

I’d imagine they were.  Hope they send/have ptsd counselors for these guys available.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

Win %,  AFC win %..  there are other ways 

I just don’t think the NFL would create a new rule and tie-break method to resolve this. I wonder if there is any precedent here.  

[purple haze]

Keep Damar lifted up in prayer.  If you aren’t a praying person, give whatever positive energy and positivity you can contribute.   
 

Lord, please spare that young man. 🙏🏾

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, SDS said:

Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator.
 

What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. 

If you claim to have done any research into the Go Fund Me process and Damar's annual toy drive before calling it stupid to donate, I'd have a hard time believing it. 

 

Did you know that even if someone donated to an inactive or illegitimate charity their money would be 100% refunded by Go Fund Me? If you claim to have known that, I'd have a hard time believing it also.

 

Telling me to grow up after your overreaction here...yeesh. That's good stuff.

[Hsker4life]

 

[djp14150]

1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Just not sure how this game can be rescheduled.

 

The Players are not going to be mentally or emotionally ready to play in the next day or two.

They won’t know. He could be pronounced dead tomorrow……

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

From what I can tell the money is pouring in from all over the country.  Other fan bases are joining in.  It's quite remarkable.

 

 Yes it is. Someone nationally must have said something about 45 mins to an hour ago. It had hit a lull and now has taken off again, like another 600,000-700,000 in that time. Update: over $1.6 million as I type this.

 

 

 

 

 

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, NUT said:

I agree. They may not even be ready for the Pat's game.

And if they’re not ready… forfeit. 
 

If they’re not ready for the playoffs… forfeit. 

It’s ok… everyone would understand. 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by JGMcD2

[zow2]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I just don’t think the NFL would create a new rule and tie-break method to resolve this. I wonder if there is any precedent here.  

 

Other people mentioned there are Covid rules in the books for a team or teams not being able to play a full season. and they could use those same rules or tie breakers. 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Agree. I don't even care about football right now. I wouldn't care if the Bills don't take the field again this year.

 

I can't believe I just typed that but it's the truth.

That's how I feel too

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, sullim4 said:

I am thinking the "no contest" result is the likely outcome.  The Bills and Bengals will play 16 game seasons, with standings determined by winning percentage.

 

A tie would have potentially negative consequences on other teams with respect to tiebreakers for things like strength of victory, conference record, etc.  Pretending like the game was never played feels like the most fair result for all the teams involved.

 

That will mean the Bills likely get the 2 seed if they beat NE on Sunday.

While not opposed to the concept, I’m far from certain the NFL would set such a precedent. They are surely in uncharted territory here but I’d venture a guess they will want the game to be played. I’m not saying that is the right decision by any means though. 

[hondo in seattle]

9 minutes ago, NUT said:

Because that would hand the Cheifs the one seed. I think that is a worse scenario for the NFL than somehow choosing a winner.

 

Cancel the game….  Bills and Bengals only play 16 games.

[Starr Almighty]

Explantation of what may have happened to Hamlin

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Just not sure how this game can be rescheduled.

 

The Players are not going to be mentally or emotionally ready to play in the next day or two.

The thought that in the next week they would place the ball at the exact spot in the same stadium where this occurred and continue the game  is unthinkable. This game will never happen. They need to figure out the least damaging way to move forward which IMO is to call this a non contest and use win percentage to establish seedings.  Should the Bills & Bengals meet in the playoffs the game would be played on a neutral field (Indy?) with tickets distributed evenly between the two fan bases.

 

 

[VaMilBill]

2 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Just not sure how this game can be rescheduled.

 

The Players are not going to be mentally or emotionally ready to play in the next day or two.

To be honest it’ll be tough for both teams, especially the bills, to prepare/practice for the NE game next week. 
 

I think the best course of action for the nfl is to take a weeklong pause (thereby removing the 2 week gap between the SB and championship games) and slide the entire nfl schedule a week. It may screw up a lot of logistics, but if player safety is their top priority, I think this is the right choice

[Governor]

5 minutes ago, sullim4 said:

I am thinking the "no contest" result is the likely outcome.  The Bills and Bengals will play 16 game seasons, with standings determined by winning percentage.

 

A tie would have potentially negative consequences on other teams with respect to tiebreakers for things like strength of victory, conference record, etc.  Pretending like the game was never played feels like the most fair result for all the teams involved.

 

That will mean the Bills likely get the 2 seed if they beat NE on Sunday.

The Bengals were winning the game when play stopped. That has to factor into the decision slightly. Forfeit is really the only fair thing to do, not that it really matters at this point.

[BillsFan2313]

Prayers out to Damar and his family

 

Shame on the people in this thread complaining about other crap

[Brand J]

Just now, JGMcD2 said:

And if they’re not ready… forfeit. 
 

If they’re not ready for the playoffs… forfeit. 
 

 

Everyone processes grief differently. Remember Favre playing after his father died? Dawson Knox this season after losing his brother? Not playing may make it worse because all you have is time to dwell on it. 

[Engelwood]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Cancel the game….  Bills and Bengals only play 16 games.

It still hands the Chiefs the #1. 

[ToGoGo]

18 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Wow you guys are embarrassing. Ripping people for emotionally trying to do something useful. Yikes 😳 

 

Not ripping. I know people want to help. 

 

But there should be more awareness to how some of these player charities are really run. 

[CoffeeDrip]

9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Agree. I don't even care about football right now. I wouldn't care if the Bills don't take the field again this year.

 

I can't believe I just typed that but it's the truth.

Been saying the same all night. 
 

 

[RyanC883]

20 minutes ago, Mango said:

This occurred to me so I bought a Hamlin jersey.

 

But also gave his charity $30, it’s not a huge deal.

 

Hamlin jersey is a cool idea. Wonder what players get from them?  At any rate, would be cool for him to see his jersey as a top seller. 

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

wha happened on this call?

 

It's only 10:30 here in Colorado so I'm going to wait on Coy Wire, who is listening in on the call and will report what it was about on CNN.

[HaldimandBills]

Ryan Clark and Scott Van Pelt were dignified, professional, and quite honestly were above and beyond what could be expected from Sports Media. 

 

Thoughts and Prayers to Damar Hamlin. At this point I dont care what they do with this game. Forfeit for all I care. Just get this kid ok so he can live a full, long, and healthy life. 

[Dr.Sack]

Just now, Engelwood said:

It still hands the Chiefs the #1. 

Who cares 

[Mango]

11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

They can’t do this. I don’t think there is a fair way to figure it out (other than to give the 1 seed to KC, who will have 1 more win). 

 

KC lost to BUF and CIN. 
 

I am happy to take an L if I’m Buffalo and call this a forfeit. No questions asked. 
 

But if you are going to not give an L, head to head seems more than fair in all honesty. 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, JayBaller10 said:

Everyone processes grief differently. Remember Favre playing after his father died? Dawson Knox this season after losing his brother? Not playing may make it worse because all you have is time to dwell on it. 

Though neither Favre’s father or Knox’s brother were taken playing football. Hamlin was taken severely ill/injured whilst playing the game. There will be an element of “but for the Grace of God…” for at least some time, every time a team mate is hit, every time someone stays down.

[Draconator]

2 minutes ago, Engelwood said:

It still hands the Chiefs the #1. 

Who the ***** cares

[Locomark]

Alaina Getzenberger from ESPN just tweeted at 12:26 the Bills are flying home tonight with some players staying behind to be with Damar. Looks like they will be no game this week. 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Hamlin jersey is a cool idea. Wonder what players get from them?  At any rate, would be cool for him to see his jersey as a top seller. 

I did a quick Google and it said players get a cut if all general sales, but 2/3 of stuff with their name or picture. 

[Motorin']

10 minutes ago, SDS said:

Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator.
 

What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. 

 

You may have a point, but the link is being shared all over the internet and all over the world. No sense in getting worked up about something that you can't do anything about.

 

For me, I've avoided responded to about a half dozen posts in this thread that started to piss me off bc it isn't worth it.

 

My only thoughts tonight are for the health and well being of Damar, his family, the team and us Bills fans. 

 

 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Engelwood said:

It still hands the Chiefs the #1. 

 

I would not be surprised if the Bills are done playing this year. Nobody cares about that right now. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Big Turk

[wppete]

 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Governor said:

The Bengals were winning the game when play stopped. That has to factor into the decision slightly. Forfeit is really the only fair thing to do, not that it really matters at this point.

but why does the score after 1 drive each matter at all? You say it has to but I think the more compelling argument is that it’s totally meaningless 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Engelwood said:

It still hands the Chiefs the #1. 

They can have it.

 

[Just Jack]

Right now the ball is in the Bills hands.  They are going to be the ones to decide if the game gets played.