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The Red King

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  1. I see where this is going. "How dare you say anything bad about Davis! He's an amazing reciever. His history of not winning contested passes and his 10% drop rate is trivial! Lay off the poor guy!" If this thread was made to be an echo chamber, it should have been labelled as such. Well, since I have a dissenting opinion, and those are not allowed here, I'll take my leave.
  2. If a reciever drops a on-target pass in the end zone in OT, would you say he cost them the game, even if the team didn't play well? Of course you would. So now that we've set a precident... As for the pass in the Jets game, he needs to make that catch. But that's another knock against him. He just doesn't make contested catches (ref: Vikings game). High-level #2 recievers do. Just look at how many similar plays have been made against us. He is highly inconsistant. As I've said ad nausium by now he has great plays, and he has some that gravely hurt this team. I think people calling for his head are overreacting. But at the same time I think people claiming he's perfectly fine and doesn't deserve critiquing have their heads in the sand.
  3. Oh, and to clairify, I don't mean on average. I mean completely happy with every play. Are you completely happy with his current level of play?
  4. He is not the sole cause, but his 4th down drop was a critical, game-killing drop. Let me ask bluntly. Are you completely happy with Davis' performance this year right now? Completely being the key word.
  5. So, causing 33% of the Bills' losses is no big deal? Goes right up there with a full 10% drop rate, I suppose. Again, I'm not calling for the guy's head. I'm just saying there is certainly justification for the flak he's receiving.
  6. Dropped critical 4th down pass from Josh in the Jets game, which resulted in 1 of the Bills' 3 losses this season? As I said, when he's good, he's amazing. When he's bad, it costs the team bad.
  7. People pointing out that his skills have declined and that every other team in the NFL feels the same is "strong feelings"? I like the guy. I liked what he did here. But, as I pointed out above, everyone's skills decline over time. I mean that's obvious. That's why Cole is playing so well for...wait...who is he playing for right now? 🤔
  8. Take off the nostalgia goggles. Players drop off over time. The Beasley we'd have this season isn't the same as last season or the one before. If he was, some team would have snapped him up and stuck with him. Sadly, like any other player, in any other sport, his ability dropped off with age. It's why we don't re-sign Bruce Smith right now to bolster our D-line. Blame Father Time.
  9. Yes, because Beasley showed how much he had left in his tank before Tampa cut him. 🙄
  10. None of which has anything to do with what I said. To be clear, I don't disagree with what you just posted. The only thing directed at you was in regards to a failed correlation you attempted to make between patient/doctor and fan/coach. A correlation I picked apart by bringing up Peterman. Surely you can admit that much at this point. I have not objected to, or even responded to, anything else you've posted. As far as the broader topic as to whether the flak against this coaching staff is warranted, unlike the aforementioned correlation, this is completely subjective. I have my opinions on the matter, as do you, and we're both allowed to have them. I hope that clears things up. My only issue here was strictly with that specific assertion, nothing more.
  11. I'm more supportive of Gabe then a number of people on this thread. My point is merely this. The OP suggests the flak he's getting is over-exaggerated and unwarranted. I disagree, and used his drop percentage as one argument against that assertion. When he's good, he's amazing. But when he's bad it hurts this team badly. He has potential, but until he stops making those key mistakes people are going to be justified in critiquing him.
  12. Hardly. Let's look at your argument. You assert that since patients are not doctors, they have no right to weigh in on surgical strategy. The implications are, in a similar manner, fans cannot weigh in on coaching decisions. Am I mistaken? To counter that I asked... At which point your argument collapses completely. So, you start throwing in other conditions such as win record. You backpedaled hard from your original assertion that since patients should not weigh in on surgery, fans should not weigh in on coaching decisions. In other words, I completely shredded your original point. Check and Mate.
  13. And he is what in total drops? And how bad did those drops hurt us? Lack of consistency.
  14. Yes, he can make good plays, great plays, amazing plays. When he's good, he's very, very good. The problem is, when he's bad, he's terrible. His big plays are offset by his horrific mistakes. 10% drop rate will kill you (as it has the Bills in a couple losses this year). I mean, he even bobbled an onside kick that could have been a disaster had a teammate not knocked it out of bounds. Consistency. Let me say it again... Consistency. This is the problem. This is why he's getting a "bad rap". Plain and simple. Works for a WR3, but too unreliable for a WR2.
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