Chiefs = Paper Tigers

[Joe Ferguson]

I just hope Duke Williams will start so they can finally beat the Chiefs. 

[njbuff]

If the Chiefs are paper tigers, then the Bills are paper clips until proven otherwise.

 

The Bills are a really good team that got manhandled by the Chiefs last year.

 

The Bills still have a lot to prove, but I think they are  fully capable of taking the next step and slaying the KC dragon.

[Putin]

But hear me out  !!!! 
what if OP is right ???

Edited August 19, 2021 by Putin

[Dr. K]

I said it in August. I'm not saying they aren't good, and won't right the ship, but they are vulnerable. The Bills can't say they're better until they beat the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are not invincible. 

 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2021 by Dr. K

[NewEra]

26 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

I said it in August. I'm not saying they aren't good, and won't right the ship, but they are vulnerable. The Bills can't say they're better until they beat the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are not invincible. 

 

 

 

So which is it?  Are you saying that they are “paper tigers” or “not invincible”. There’s a lot of of real estate in between the 2.  Definitely not invincible…..but definitely not paper tigers imo.  

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

49 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

I said it in August. I'm not saying they aren't good, and won't right the ship, but they are vulnerable. The Bills can't say they're better until they beat the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are not invincible. 

 

 

 

Peter King needs to call it a career. He's increasingly grumpy, Florio can't stand him, and the way King's hands shake when he picks up his cup is alarming.

[Logic]

14 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Peter King needs to call it a career. He's increasingly grumpy, Florio can't stand him, and the way King's hands shake when he picks up his cup is alarming.

Millions of people still read his MMQB (now FMIA) column every Monday morning, including me. He has connections and gets quotes that few others in the world of football journalism can. Unless and until either of those things change, I don't see any reason why he should call it a career.

[The Wiz]

49 minutes ago, NewEra said:

So which is it?  Are you saying that they are “paper tigers” or “not invincible”. There’s a lot of of real estate in between the 2.  Definitely not invincible…..but definitely not paper tigers imo.  

So something like cloth tigers?

 

Wooden tigers?

 

Just spit-balling here. 

[Dr. K]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

So which is it?  Are you saying that they are “paper tigers” or “not invincible”. There’s a lot of of real estate in between the 2.  Definitely not invincible…..but definitely not paper tigers imo.  

Paper tiger: "one that is outwardly powerful or dangerous but inwardly weak or ineffectual."

 

That certainly seems to describe the Chiefs of the first three games of the season.

 

They have time to turn it around and they might. Let's see if they can beat the crap out of the Eagles.  

Edited October 1, 2021 by Dr. K

[QCity]

36 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

 

That certainly seems to describe the Chiefs of the first three games of the season.

 

 

I'd say it's a terrible description for their first 3 games as their losses have been mostly self-inflicted so far.

 

Now, the Broncos 3-0 after beating poor teams like the Jets, Jags, and Giants? That's the definition of a "paper tiger," not a team that went to back-to-back Superbowls. 

[AuntieEm]

On 8/18/2021 at 9:29 AM, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Will be interesting to see how he does whenever that time comes that Roman is no longer there. 

    

       I'm guessing it will depend on who is the OC that replaces Roman and whether their style is to fit their scheme around players strengths or will the new OC be one that wants his scheme to be above anything else.  Of course depends on how much the HC leaves offensive playcalling in OCs hands.  If a new OC is more pass oriented and isn't strong in run game planning then might be a bad fit with LJ.  It would come down to how invested the HC as well as GM are in LJ being the franchise QB.

 

     If they are all in the next OC will have to cater to LJ's strength moreso than if they have some doubts on LJ's style being the longterm answer for them.  Gotta remember there a reason even the best RBs go downhill at a quicker rate than probably any other position on a team so a RQB is likely to suffer the same rate of decline in those running abilities as the years go on.  So if LJ is deemed by a new OC to only have 2 or 3 years of being able to depend on his running skills will he be more inclined to say hey if you want to lead this team you have to hit this level in passing.  In fact I'm of the opinion that Roman is actually stifling LJs growth as a passing qb.  We have all see LJ make good passes so he's capable.  I just think they've never had the patience to let LJ make the mistakes in order to learn from them.  Then again in practice maybe LJ doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.

[TBBills]

It's as if Mahomes isn't allowed to have bad games. It has happened...

[Man with No Name]

4 hours ago, Logic said:

Millions of people still read his MMQB (now FMIA) column every Monday morning, including me. He has connections and gets quotes that few others in the world of football journalism can. Unless and until either of those things change, I don't see any reason why he should call it a career.

ya. i haven't read him in years. He was always corny, but always worth a read because he had such great connections. if that is still the case, no reason for him to go anywhere. 

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

ya. i haven't read him in years. He was always corny, but always worth a read because he had such great connections. if that is still the case, no reason for him to go anywhere. 

 

I don’t actually READ him (though I suppose I did years ago), but he’s got a serious presence on various daytime sports talk shows. I bet I get segments with him three times a week, and I enjoy what he’s got to say. 

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Peter King needs to call it a career. He's increasingly grumpy, Florio can't stand him, and the way King's hands shake when he picks up his cup is alarming.

The shaky hands are just the start, It’s called aging, we will all go through it, diapers when we are born, diapers when we are closer to death, circle of life…,

 

Go Bills!!!

[LeGOATski]

On 8/17/2021 at 8:08 AM, LeGOATski said:

Sorry everyone. I take credit for threads like this after making "Chiefs miss the playoffs" one of my predictions in the bold prediction thread.

I guess I have to apologize again.

 

Give it a rest, OP.

[Nelius]

Talking head football analysis is dead now that there are a million blogs out there and you can all test projections yourself for the low monthly price of $29.99 at myfantasydumps.com or whatever. Peter King is still more acceptable than the 49 year old Yahoo Fantasy manboys like Pianowski or whoever that are just more boring versions of Peter King. I personally hope he shakes and talks about whatever dumb coffee he prefers until he feels he's done.

[Eastport bills]

The Chiefs are challenged on defense. The Bills with  score enough, but Mahomes is dangerous as a wounded animal. They will lean on his improvisational skills with Hill/Kelce, who the  Bills defense has yet to prove they can cover. Poyer will be crucial. If we beat them in KC, it will send a strong message to the whole AFC who the top dog is.

[JaCrispy]

18 hours ago, Dr. K said:

I said it in August. I'm not saying they aren't good, and won't right the ship, but they are vulnerable. The Bills can't say they're better until they beat the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are not invincible. 

 

 

 

You still have to play a perfect game to beat them...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

BUF +4.5.  Point Spread on SNF 

 

[vincec]

1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

BUF +4.5.  Point Spread on SNF 

 

The Chiefs will always be favored until the Bills beat them.

[Warcodered]

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

BUF +4.5.  Point Spread on SNF 

 

Honestly I wouldn't trust anything with the Chiefs, it sounds like they played the Eagles pretty typically, like it doesn't matter until "Oh ***** better score real quick." I don't think they'd get away with that with us, but I also doubt they play us like that. They'll be turned up in our game so it's tougher to see how it'll go. We can definitely win though.

[Southern_Bills]

I feel like KC got Hill and CEH going today against Philly. I could see Sunday night being a really good game, I wouldn't bet money on it though lol

[BuffaloBillyG]

33 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

I feel like KC got Hill and CEH going today against Philly. I could see Sunday night being a really good game, I wouldn't bet money on it though lol

Bet the over...

[billsfan89]

KC is still a beast. They have tremendous top line elite talent. Their two losses were nail biters to a dam good Ravens team and a good Chargers team. The Bills will really see where they stand going into KC.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

48 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Honestly I wouldn't trust anything with the Chiefs, it sounds like they played the Eagles pretty typically, like it doesn't matter until "Oh ***** better score real quick." I don't think they'd get away with that with us, but I also doubt they play us like that. They'll be turned up in our game so it's tougher to see how it'll go. We can definitely win though.

it’s better that they won. 
 

they’d be very desperate otherwise 

[Warcodered]

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

it’s better that they won. 
 

they’d be very desperate otherwise 

I definitely like the idea of knocking them down to sub .500.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

I think this is the last  hurdle Mcd and the team need to get over in the AFC. Other teams are stepping up to Kc and playing them close to the vest and in two instances beat them. No reason we shouldn’t be in the mix. 

 

It’s going to take a huge effort from all three phases and most importantly I really think Josh needs to be dialed in and great this week. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[Locomark]

Our defense hasn’t shown any ability to stop KC in the past. Let’s see this week. This is a last possession game and might be decided by the best coaching decisions. 

Edited October 4, 2021 by Locomark

[billsfan89]

4 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I think this is the last  hurdle Mcd and the team need to get over in the AFC. Other teams are stepping up to Kc and playing them close to the vest and in two instances beat them. No reason we shouldn’t be in the mix. 

 

It’s going to take a huge effort from all three phases and most importantly I really think Josh needs to be dialed in and great this week. 

Bills will need to put up 28+ points at a minimum. Both games against KC last year the offense ***** the bed. Got to force them to win a shootout. 

[Nitro]

KC is very good and play hard enough to beat their opponents.  Bills will have to play mistake free ball against them.  No FGs, only TDs.    Defense will have its hands full with Mahomes and the KC attack.  Great test for the Bills.

[YoloinOhio]

11 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Honestly I wouldn't trust anything with the Chiefs, it sounds like they played the Eagles pretty typically, like it doesn't matter until "Oh ***** better score real quick." I don't think they'd get away with that with us, but I also doubt they play us like that. They'll be turned up in our game so it's tougher to see how it'll go. We can definitely win though.

They were probably dialed in vs the Raiders and chargers and that didn’t  work out too well. 

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, Locomark said:

Our defense hasn’t shown any ability to stop KC in the past. Let’s see this week. This is a last possession game and might be decided by the best coaching decisions. 

 

You can't stop KC. They are too good. You can limit them. We did a decent job of that for the most part in week 6 last year, less so in the playoff game. To have a chance to win next week our O has to play better than both matchups next year or else it won't matter what the defense does. You are not keeping the Chiefs below 25. The most we scored in two meetings last year was 25. 

[eball]

On 8/18/2021 at 9:48 AM, eball said:

Hear me now and believe me later, but the Chefs are at the beginning of the end of their run.

 

Bump, just for the hell of it.  Note this was posted on August 18.

[TPS]

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

Bump, just for the hell of it.  Note this was posted on August 18.

Yes, well done @Dr K!

[SirAndrew]

On 10/2/2021 at 9:03 AM, JaCrispy said:

You still have to play a perfect game to beat them...

That’s true, but I think KC’s concern should be other teams figuring out how to play that perfect game. Everything has a formula in this world, and although the Chiefs are a strong team, the book on how to beat them has been written. You still need the right personnel and good coaching to do so, we certainly have all of that. 

Edited October 13, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Warcodered]

I mean next week they either continue to collapse either losing or barely winning or they beat the brakes of the WTF as a get right game.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 8/17/2021 at 8:20 AM, 17islongenough said:

Yet they killed the Bills.   What does that make us?

 

Paper Boar

https://www.tigerfdn.com/

 

But the Boar grew tusks and went after the Tiger this time.

[BillsVet]

Can't remember who said it, maybe someone on NFLN...but the idea is the Chiefs (or Cheaps as referenced by the late, great RL) just had other teams catch up to them.  Allen's emergence in Buffalo and their team building, the Chargers with Herbert and similar team improvement, Baltimore with Lamar Jackson et al., even Tennessee. 

 

Kansas City is still a solid team, but they've plateaued, and as a graphic I saw on Twitter today noted, Josh has matched Mahomes over their last 21 starts.  Both are 17-4, both have passer ratings above 106.0, are completing about 2/3rds of their passes and have practically the same TD-INT ratio. 

 

The AFC has changed considerably with the rise of those QBs, demise of Roethlisberger and Brady's departure to the NFC. 

[34-78-83]

I predict the Chiefs will be in the playoff mix still by the end of the season. But is sure is nice to have gotten past that hurdle (no pun intended!:) )

Edited October 13, 2021 by 34-78-83