GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chaos said: No. This is a thread about Tremaine Edmunds. For some wierd reason you jumped into trash Jack Campbell (whom I don't give a ***** about one way or the other), and claimed his almost as bad of a rating as Edmunds is because he is not good at pass coverage. So then I looked up the pass coverage stats, and saw that you had it completely backasswards. He was good in pass coverage and sucked at other things. PFF literally graded him below 50 in coverage. There is a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: And Browns fan too.😉 ohh...there's the brownie....all about the lake huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: PFF literally graded him below 50 in coverage. There is a reason for that. Don't be quoting PFF in here, brah.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Don't be quoting PFF in here, brah.... Unless it’s a favorable opinion on a Bills player. Right?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I will just point out that the second worst coverage grade on that list is the guy some Bills fans were adament we had to draft to replace Tremaine. I know, rookie, week 1, vs Chiefs... but those of us who were against the "draft Campbell in the first" or even "trade back and draft him early second" were saying he is gonna be on a steep learning curve in terms of his coverage skills in the NFL. I expect him to get better. I don't ever expect him to the worth the pick the Lions invested. drafting Campbell would have been a mistake unless he fell to the second Rd and Torrence was not there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, bobobonators said: At the end of the day folks, MLB does not win you championships in the NFL. This isnt 1985. 1. QB 2. OL 3. DL 4. WR or vertical pass catching TE QB is a no brainer. My 3 yr old knows this. OL is above all other positions bc of the importance of QB. You give an avg QB plenty of time to throw he’ll be good; a good QB will be great; and a great QB will be unstoppable. Where is MLB (or non-pass rushing LB) on that pecking order? Damn near the bottom. Again, this isn’t 1985. I wish Edmunds the best he seems like a great person. Im glad we aren’t wasting precious cap money on him though. Well yeah, but if you're serious about a Super Bowl, you already have those 4 requirements. If you don't have a MLB, the aforementioned QB will destroy you in the middle all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 For all the talk about Edmunds and his ability to play the pass, he was targeted and abused by the better QB's in this league...mostly because he has poor awareness/instincts. That was partly why our defense wasn't as good in the playoffs. When we faced the top QB's, their eyes lit up when they saw Edmunds in coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, MPT said: Well yeah, but if you're serious about a Super Bowl, you already have those 4 requirements. If you don't have a MLB, the aforementioned QB will destroy you in the middle all day long. edmunds got destroyed by Jordan Love and Aaron Jones. Let’s give Bernard a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: edmunds got destroyed by Jordan Love and Aaron Jones. Let’s give Bernard a bit Oh I don't have anything against Bernard. I think he has potential. But if he flops then we don't have a chance in hell of winning the SB. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 Edmunds report update: Baker was terrified to throw across the middle today. He only threw for 317 yards. If the Scarecrow wasn’t there, he might have had 500. This has been your weekly update, thanks as always for tuning in. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Edmunds report update: Baker was terrified to throw across the middle today. He only threw for 317 yards. If the Scarecrow wasn’t there, he might have had 500. This has been your weekly update, thanks as always for tuning in. What a STUD! Can't believe he slipped away from the Bills! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/11/2023 at 10:14 PM, MPT said: Oh I don't have anything against Bernard. I think he has potential. But if he flops then we don't have a chance in hell of winning the SB. That was my point. Nice flip today on the pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Cannot believe how many years were wasted on this guy. Another wasted draft pick on defense. He sure is helping the Bears defense. 😄 1 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 ooo careful, you'll be referred to as racist for pointing this out. 8 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He is not a wasted draft pick, played pretty well than his free agency offer was not worth matching. See ya- 7 12 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 watching the realization of Edmunds' limitations dawn on bears fans is a sight to behold 3 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Really? Another Edmunds thread? Really? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, DeltaDigital said: ooo careful, you'll be referred to as racist for pointing this out. the f#$k? Just now, HOUSE said: He is not a wasted draft pick, played pretty well than his free agency offer was not worth matching. See ya- Yeah exactly this is "The way." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, DeltaDigital said: ooo careful, you'll be referred to as racist for pointing this out. I don't think so. Although I do think people are too easy on McD around here, I think there actually has been a fair amount of criticism for the resources that have been poured into the D without results when they could've gone to the offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He had some good production while he was here he was learning the first season so i wouldn't say it was a wasted draft pick & he was a intricate part of a top 5 defense every season he was here . But opinions differ as we all know and although i would agree i don't feel he was all that & a bag of chips or what they thought he would be he wasn't a terrible player while in a Bills uni ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Really? Another Edmunds thread? Really? Im already prepping for the next one . Will be posting soon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, T master said: He had some good production while he was here he was learning the first season so i wouldn't say it was a wasted draft pick & he was a intricate part of a top 5 defense every season he was here . But opinions differ as we all know and although i would agree i don't feel he was all that & a bag of chips or what they thought he would be he wasn't a terrible player while in a Bills uni ! Nah he was ok, but certainly overdrafted in retrospect. You could set your watch by how he consistently picked the wrong lane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I live in the Chicago area. I've been telling friends who were happy about signing Edmunds to talk to me a few weeks into the season, once they understand. He did have 16 tackles this week. I didn't watch the game so I can only guess that most were after a significant gain, who knows... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He is a decent player and will have a long career in the NFL. I don't think he was a waste. He had a couple of strong years in Buffalo. I wish him the best and I'm not sure why some fans view him with such distaste. 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Can you believe he is only 25 years old! Lots of room to grow..... Decent player, not an impact player. Milano was the obvious choice to keep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He is not a wasted draft pick, played pretty well than his free agency offer was not worth matching. See ya- It’s not clear he performed up to the level of draft picks plural used to acquire him in the draft. When a GM a makes a play to move up in the draft it is a pretty clear i indication he is getting the guy he wants, and I think fans hold those picks to a higher standard. But while he was here he played a pivotal role to get us to the divisional round of the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 It’s really weird to dislike a former player this much. I say it everytime, it’s like he bad mouthed the city, was a big distraction… Nope, just didn’t live up to your expectations and cashed in on a rebuilding defense for big money. 8 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 it was 100% right to let him walk, bernard looks like a good pick so far this season (so far, i am not sold he's our long term answer), but he was far from a bad or wasted pick. 5 years starting at MLB on a top D is way over expectation for even a 1st round pick. he's just simply not as good of a football player as he is of an athlete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He's got 24 tackles and 2 TFLs in two games so far. That's not exactly terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Speaking of missing someone, I miss Maddy. Who knew. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) He was great for us. I wish we could have kept him, but 100% get the decision, and I'm glad it looks like Bernard is going to work out. I don't think Bernard will be as good against the run as Edmunds was, but he has a great skillset nonetheless. It doesn't feel like a big dropoff right now, which was the offseason fear. Edited September 19, 2023 by Success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He is still very young ,basically just a rookie in Chicago 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: He is still very young ,basically just a rookie in Chicago He’s just old enough to buy $18 million worth of beer this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I like the line of thought that the Bears can get out of that contract after the 2024 season, and likely will. And he'll end up back on the Bills at a far more affordable number, and at only 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Cannot believe how many years were wasted on this guy. Another wasted draft pick on defense. He sure is helping the Bears defense. 😄 Not sure the reason he is still being brought up for at this point, but not that my statement on him means much of anything either... But I will say I've kinda "zero-ed" in on just him the bits and pieces I've been able to see of the Bears on Redzone etc, and don't know how much different things may be a factor, but he hasn't looked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Can you believe he is only 25 years old! Lots of room to grow..... Decent player, not an impact player. Milano was the obvious choice to keep. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah. Every single year since he was drafted. At some point people will just realize he is who he is and it’s not going to change. fwiw he’s not terrible. But definitely not worth what he’s making. Was t worth a day one draft pick either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 One thing about Edmunds that nobody can deny is his nose for the football😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Once he turns 21, watch out 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Typical this guy thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Typical this guy thread we should probably retire his number at this point 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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