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Appreciate the clarification.

Tom, I’ve always appreciated your clinical diagnoses on this and other mental impairments, but a disconnect from the truth on such a frequent basis (over 3,000 half truths or outright falsehoods and counting since he took office), no matter the psychological reason behind it, is not something that can be so readily excused for the person holding this office. “Random nonsense” comes in many forms; UNTRUE random nonsense spewed with such frequent regularity, often with the intent to mislead and deflect, is not something that should be viewed as a “he can’t help it because he’s sick” affliction. It deserves no sympathy.

Guessing sarcasm, but just in case, I don’t agree with that at all. Veterans and everybody else are free to feel any way they want about the issue.

Again, you misunderstand where my animosity lies. Has nothing to do with the N Korean people. And, as I said, it’s a positive that we are AGAIN seeking to establish better relations. My entire dissatisfaction lies in what the president said yesterday morning. Period. Have someone else explain to you the false equivalency you draw between N Korea and the other countries you cited and WHY. The rest of your post simply isn’t worth responding to.

No. And I’m not going to get into the weeds explaining why the four countries you listed are totally false equivalencies. Besides, my issue isn’t the relationship we are trying to establish with a country we are still technically at war with, that’s a positive thing. it’s the rhetoric our president sought fit to use while “joking” about how he wished he had the same level of respect from his people as that of a murderous dictator. Hope that clarifies it. I’ve got nothing more to add on the subject.

I’ve been a avoiding those threads like the plague if I can help it so if you wouldn’t mind linking some stuff, I’ll take a look.

Not sure about Obama, but there are photos and videos of G Dubbya and the king of Saudi Arabia kissing and walking hand in hand together.

Interesting stuff here. I gotta look into the Manafort as a plant story. That’s an incredible thing to think about.

Yes. And it also includes kissing and holding hands.

Appreciate the class. Unlike others in this space who don't know what it is let alone possess any of it.

May not end up being the ultimate target as that remains to be seen, but if the investigation ends up proving that Manafort was the person in the Trump campaign that had shady dealings with Russians and other players, that's a worthwhile conclusion. Even from the little we know at this time, his associations with those close to the Kremlin certainly beg questions worth seeking answers to, imo. As much as the media and those on both the left and right insist this has always been about Trump, the charge given was to investigate the Trump campaign and certainly Manafort was the face of it for a time in the summer of '16.

Did you or did you not take the position that the whole problem was liberals just looking to be offended by something Trump said? Does that not suggest my offense to his remarks wasn't legitimate? And you do it again in this post: "Pointing out that it's silly to get offended by so little" when what he said today may not be considered "little" in the least by others and certainly not me. As to my statement about not getting to be the arbitrators of what's offensive and what's not, that was a summation point; not an accusation about a position you didn't take. But I can see how my words may have been misconstrued. Apologies. Hope that clears it up for you.

Not a straw man in the least. You said the whole problem was liberals just wanting to find something to be offended by, including Trump's morning bowel movement, iirc. That suggests you can't see how it's possible for someone to be offended otherwise. Know what else doesn't last long around here? Pretending you didn't suggest something just because you didn't use precise words when the words you did use suggest the very thing you claim you never said. I agree with the culture of feigned outrage especially as it serves to dilute and undercut legitimate claims. But you and I don't get to arbitrate who can be offended by what. I find it ironic that in itself seems to offend you.

You got that right. Fortunately, most of what he says goes in one ear and out the other but occasionally he will utter something I find personally offensive, like this morning. He managed to denigrate those who gave the ultimate sacrifice fighting against the kind of murderous regime he found so laudable in his "joke" this morning.

In that case, he should be faulted for it. Like I said, it's my understanding the etiquette is based on the circumstance, including country and who is doing the saluting. Allies are one thing, enemies another, etc. In the case of N Korea, it's easy to see why he was advised not to. But, stupid is as stupid does as they say.