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The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report


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5 hours ago, FireChans said:

Is that why Matt Milano hits double digit TFL’s regularly and Tremaine has hit 10 once?

 

Theres a reason Matt is here and Tremaine isn’t. The guy isn’t an instinctual player.

Milano is the better player at his position and a better value. But holy crap is this a completely misleading stat. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-tackles-for-loss-leaders-2022-by-players
 

Every single guy is a d linemen or outside linebacker. It’s like comparing total tackle’s between MLB and OLB. It’s almost like they are completely different positions and have different jobs!

 

this is such a garbage, bitter ex thread. Dude was never said or did one thing negative as a Bill. His only crime was being the MLB of a consistent top ranked defense and getting paid a lot of money. What a loser! 

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8 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

So glad we didn't pay him

He became too expensive to keep, but are you comfortable with what we’re trotting out at MLB? Dodson ? Klein?  When we get victimized by missed tackles or blown assignments you should direct complaints to Beane for not bringing in an adequate replacement at a position that calls signals for the defense and has registered more than 100 tackles average.

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9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Edmunds wasn’t good enough to keep around. Which is disappointing to trade up to #16 in the first round for.


Not wanting to pay a MLB what the got with our cap space isn’t disappointing after having a player for 5 years with his production at his rookie bargain price.  That’s called making sound cap decisions.  

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21 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

McDermott traded UP for a 19 year old MLB in a passing league. Of course I do not blame Edmunds but it was an idiotic move. He would have had to be almost as great as Ray Lewis for this ill advised, poorly thought trade to have paid off.


Well questioning to move up to get him is a different conversation than calling his actual career a literal disappointment.  
 

If he was as bad as many make him out to be he wouldn’t have gotten paid.  Should we have paid him, nope, agree with not resigning him at what the market dictated for him.  But he was a better player than some are making him out to be who act like he was a total bust or something.  He wasn’t perfect, but he wasn’t a bust either.  

 

22 hours ago, balln said:

pro bowls dont matter. its not a real achievement anymore. 


Fans gross over exaggeration isnt a real fact either, yet that didn’t stop this thread from happening ;) 

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9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

He played in 3 snaps yesterday. Here's 2 of them:

 

He just doesn't have any kind of instincts or anticipation. He was massively overpaid by the Bears.

What is he even doing on the Diggs catch? His zone looks to be the immediate middle of the field, yet he blocks his own man and takes himself out of the play. And because he blocked his own man, the other receiver would’ve been wide open too.

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11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

They will leave Edmunds alone once the new target is identified.  We are in primary season but the general election is forthcoming.   Candidates include:

 

Elam…..leader in the clubhouse

Davis

Harty….because people will whine that the unemployed ham and egger Isabella would have been awesome

White…..for reasons I do not begin to understand

Brown but that’s probably too easy

Dawkins

McDermott

Beane

and more.

 

The hate will eventually settle in and focus like a laser.

 

Didn't read the whole thread because I'm sick hearing about Edmunds. But I would put Dorsey prolly 2nd on that list. Especially after first time the Bills call a 50 yard bomb on 3rd and short and don't convert.

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Edmunds wasn’t the best, certainly could have been better but also could have been worse. 
 

Tough to see him not mature into what we all hoped whilst in a Bills uniform. Best decision they made was not paying him that much money. Huge salary for spotty play. All the best to him in his future career. 

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They've got an absolutely crappy DL. That was what they should have worked on. 

 

He can't get much done without a solid DL in front of him. Nor can any other LBs.

 

Again, with good DTs in front of him, Ray Lewis was all-world, and with crappy ones for a year or two in the middle of his career he was OK.

12 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

They will leave Edmunds alone once the new target is identified.  We are in primary season but the general election is forthcoming.   Candidates include:

 

Elam…..leader in the clubhouse

Davis

Harty….because people will whine that the unemployed ham and egger Isabella would have been awesome

White…..for reasons I do not begin to understand

Brown but that’s probably too easy

Dawkins

McDermott

Beane

and more.

 

The hate will eventually settle in and focus like a laser.

 

 

Yup. 

 

Honest to God, it's a sad bunch. They need a scapegoat to howl at more than oxycodone addicts need their fixes.

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12 hours ago, SCBills said:


Some of it is probably backlash to the completely obnoxious “told you so” crowd that wants to say “do ya miss Edmunds now?” as if those of us who didn’t want to pay him thought we should come into the season Dodson/Klein/Bernard battling for starting MLB. 
 

Most of the “don’t pay Edmunds” crowd is also the “why did we draft outside linebackers on Day 2 in consecutive years” crowd. 
 

Hopefully one of Bernard/Williams eventually owns the spot and we can all move on. 


This sounds about right… we are worse off without him, but he probably isn’t worth the contract he got. He is a good player.

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52 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Edmunds wasn’t the best, certainly could have been better but also could have been worse. 
 

Tough to see him not mature into what we all hoped whilst in a Bills uniform. Best decision they made was not paying him that much money. Huge salary for spotty play. All the best to him in his future career. 

 

 

Too much money in their cap situation, yes.

 

Spotty play, not really. If the play had been all that spotty, he wouldn't have gotten that money. The reason he did is because he's very very good.

 

The Bills have said it again, over and over. They wanted him back. They couldn't afford it in the current cap situation.

 

And yeah, best to him in the future.

 

14 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:


This sounds about right… we are worse off without him, but he probably isn’t worth the contract he got. He is a good player.

 

 

Agree to disagree. He's worth it. But teams in cap strictures don't get to sign all the guys they think are worth signing.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Edmunds wasn’t the best, certainly could have been better but also could have been worse. 
 

Tough to see him not mature into what we all hoped whilst in a Bills uniform. Best decision they made was not paying him that much money. Huge salary for spotty play. All the best to him in his future career. 

 

Exactly this.  Too many posters apparently cannot or will not accept the fact that not all first round picks are going to develop into All Pros at their positions.  I don't know what the percentage of all first round draft picks become good or better players over the course of their careers but my guess is that it's south of 50% (< 16 players), with most of the best coming from the top of the first round in each draft.  Beane and McDermott gambled that a very young MLB would grow into greatness, and they lost.  OTOH, they gambled that a very raw QB with a big arm but poor mechanics could develop into an elite QB.  They won that one.

 

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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

Agree to disagree. He's worth it. But teams in cap strictures don't get to sign all the guys they think are worth signing.


Agree… in the context of our cap situation, it wasn’t feasible. He’s a good player, but he hasn’t reached the ceiling he potentially has with his physical gifts. You can do better, but you can also do much worse at MLB. Unfortunately, it looks like we are in position to do the latter.

 

Milano turning out not just to be a good player, but a great player also factored in to how much money was left.

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1 hour ago, Freddie&#x27;s Dead said:

As the author of The Edmunds Report, no.

 

Poop!!!

 

I did not have the honour of reading that report and I feel I may not have lived a full life because of that omission.

 

Could you please reconsider?

 

Maybe you can decide by doing what Edmunds does when he sees a ball carrier and is unsure which angle to take...just flip a coin.

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