The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report

[dorquemada]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

According to PFF, Tremaine came in at at solid 83rd, among all LBs so far this week. 
22 Linebackers played 60 snaps or more.  Edmunds ranked 20 out of those 22. 
Passer rating for guys tremaine covered was 118.8.  This ranked 21 out the 22 most active passers. 

There is a separating ranking system coming out later from TBDEA, which ranks "things fans can't understand, adjusted for player age" .  Edmunds is expected to rank #1 on this index. 


 

I absolutely love the bolded part

 

NO SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS IT'S WHAT HE'S NOT DOING THAT'S IMPORTANT, YOU JUST CANT SEE IT

[Mr. WEO]

Confirmed: a bum.

[Heitz]

Of the few plays I saw of the Bears game, I def saw Edmunds going the wrong way on a few plays, I was like "That feels familiar..." 🤣

 

If Bernard can just be in the right places at the right time, hopefully that will make him more than just serviceable.  Def going to be interesting AF to see what happens in the middle of our D.  

Edited September 11, 2023 by Heitz

[Steptide]

Honestly, this is why I'm not THAT worried about our middle linebacker position. I don't think we'll see a huge drop off. I do think the position needs to be addressed at some point, but I don't think it's as big a concern as alot of people think 

[Heitz]

11 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Honestly, this is why I'm not THAT worried about our middle linebacker position. I don't think we'll see a huge drop off. I do think the position needs to be addressed at some point, but I don't think it's as big a concern as alot of people think 

 

We're about to find out!    

[KDIGGZ]

But it's his LENGTH I've been told and also he's younger than some rookies! There's POTENTIAL or something

[BillsfaninSB]

All things being relatively equal and despite his performance yesterday, I still wish he was a Bill.  I’d feel better about tonight.

 

But I get the money issue. 

[Coach Tuesday]

I am HERE for the Edmunds rubbernecking.

[starrymessenger]

On 8/28/2023 at 12:28 PM, benderbender said:

Took a stroll along a Bears forum to see how they viewed the game and most are reacting like we did against Pittsburgh. Disappointed with the offense not playing up to expectations, worrying about their preseason darlings making it to the PS, etc. 

More than a few starting to wonder about Edmunds. He's missed 10 practices for an undisclosed injury and only played a single series. But I was mostly impressed that Bears fans seem to know what they're in for with Edmunds as far as his strengths and weakness. They seem to have hope for him to contribute, but don't make him a cause to prove their GM's competency like some felt when he was with us. 

 

One had the keen foresight to call out why he's not worth a top 10 draft pick in 2018. But also thought Marcus Davenport was going to set the league on fire too. 

The poster was quite insightful. Actually the Bears got it right in 2018 with R. Smith who absolutely was and was worth a top 10 pick. In quickly comparing Smith’s 5 years Raven’s contract with Tremaine’s 4 year deal, they are not far apart. 20 versus 18 per. Sort of wonder if the Bears might not have been well advised to pay the extra guaranteed amount and bigger signing bonus component to keep Roquan.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, WideNine said:

The biggest point with Edmunds was that it did not make sense for the team to take on a crippling contract to retain Edmunds.

 

I think Bean would like to keep every player they develop in house, but that is just not feasible. I don't think we currently have LBs with the range or as durable as Edmunds was for the team, but that does not mean the team cannot fill that role with a cheaper option down the road.

We will see how they use Rapp, if Bernard can stay healthy, and how much juice the veteran Kirksey has left in the tank.

Kirksey - Excited about getting him on the field. Skeptical about the little dude starting tonight. Guy looks like a wr. 
 

Edmunds size range and speed was helpful to the scheme. Not surprised he looked bad in a new scheme, we all know he’s not an instinctive player and limited practice and camp sure isn’t good for a guy like that in a new defense. maybe it’s just hard to run with the weight of all the money in the wallet. 
 

unlike all the jilted lovers I do think he’ll become solid for the bears and also think teams are going to attack the middle of this d more without him there. 

[L Ron Burgundy]

I'm feeling like he comes back on a smaller contract in 2 -3 years.

[Shaw66]

I was trying out Sunday Ticket, so I watched something less than a quarter of the game.  I was surprised to see him make several plays in the running game, not the classic guy who's joining a tackle.   One where he just stuffed a running back in the hole and ended up on the bottom of the pile.   A couple of stops, shared sometimes, outside the tackle.   He looked more like the linebacker I'd always hoped he become, the Keuchel clone only taller and faster.   

 

He wasn't much of a factor in the passing game, so far as I saw. 

 

Makes me wonder whether his assignment is different in the Bears' defense.   He looked much more like an old-fashioned middle linebacker.  

[1onemangang7]

On 8/27/2023 at 9:25 AM, PrimeTime101 said:

Edmunds played for the first time this preseason, only for a handful of snaps. How good Edmunds really will be wont be answered till regular season. 

What in the wide wide world of sports is that avatar? Are you a Buffalo Lions fan or sumptin

[pigpen65]

4 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I'm feeling like he comes back on a smaller contract in 2 -3 years.

In 2-3 years he's going to be persona non grata. The Bears didn't draft him in the first round. Bears fans have no vested interest in needing him to succeed the way Bills fans did. All they are going to see is an extremely weak middle LB who gets pushed 10 yards deep into the defensive backfield every running play. They are going to run his name through the mud by the time he's done with this contract. 

[Brand J]

I knew the Bears and their fans would have buyer’s remorse eventually, but didn’t think his value would be questioned after game 1! Edmunds is not a difference maker? I’m shocked! SHOCKED, I tell you!

[FireChans]

37 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am HERE for the Edmunds rubbernecking.

It makes me feel warm and fuzzy

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

He's in for a rough season.  It will take him nearly the entire 2023 season to get to where he was in the 2022 season with the Bills.

 

He's slow to know the playbook, and to boot, a defense that's entirely different from what the Bills ran, to where he doesn't need to think about what to do, he just does it.   

 

He won't be great for the Bears this year, but in future years, barring injury, he'll put up 2022 stats for them.  

 

 

 

 

He’ll be a Bill in 2025. He’s on the Shaq Lawson career path.

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

According to PFF, Tremaine came in at at solid 83rd, among all LBs so far this week. 
22 Linebackers played 60 snaps or more.  Edmunds ranked 20 out of those 22. 
Passer rating for guys tremaine covered was 118.8.  This ranked 21 out the 22 most active linebackers. 

There is a separating ranking system coming out later from TBDEA, which ranks "things fans can't understand, adjusted for player age" .  Edmunds is expected to rank #1 on this index. 

the Aaron Jones 50 yard TD pass was right in his zone, our lil fella picked the wrong guy and surprise surprise, house call.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

It was a big day...

Trumaine got the money and the Bears lost to Baker Mayfield. 

 

 

Npt that it matters, but Bears lost to GB...Vikes lost to Baker and the Bucs

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

According to PFF, Tremaine came in at at solid 83rd, among all LBs so far this week. 
22 Linebackers played 60 snaps or more.  Edmunds ranked 20 out of those 22. 
Passer rating for guys tremaine covered was 118.8.  This ranked 21 out the 22 most active linebackers. 

There is a separating ranking system coming out later from TBDEA, which ranks "things fans can't understand, adjusted for player age" .  Edmunds is expected to rank #1 on this index. 

 

I will just point out that the second worst coverage grade on that list is the guy some Bills fans were adament we had to draft to replace Tremaine. I know, rookie, week 1, vs Chiefs... but those of us who were against the "draft Campbell in the first" or even "trade back and draft him early second" were saying he is gonna be on a steep learning curve in terms of his coverage skills in the NFL. I expect him to get better. I don't ever expect him to the worth the pick the Lions invested.

[Chaos]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I will just point out that the second worst coverage grade on that list is the guy some Bills fans were adament we had to draft to replace Tremaine. I know, rookie, week 1, vs Chiefs... but those of us who were against the "draft Campbell in the first" or even "trade back and draft him early second" were saying he is gonna be on a steep learning curve in terms of his coverage skills in the NFL. I expect him to get better. I don't ever expect him to the worth the pick the Lions invested.

Wierd comparing a guy in his first NFL game playing against Mahomes, with a guy making 20mm on his second contract playing against a first time NFL starter.  But if this makes you feel better, God bless. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Chaos said:

Wierd comparing a guy in his first NFL game playing against Mahomes, with a guy making 20mm on his second contract playing against a first time NFL starter.  But if this makes you feel better, God bless. 

 

I mean I wasn't doing that. I was just making the point that you don't draft a MLB early in this NFL unless that guy can cover. Because it is a passing match up league.