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  1. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    I've had this thought for days now, and I'll throw it in here. I seriously doubt that the Bills have the worst offensive line in the league. I'm not saying it's good. As I watch games around the league, I'm seeing a LOT of atrocious line play. Defenders are getting free runs at the QB for many, if not most, teams. I don't think Allen has been in any more trouble back there than a lot of QBs over the first couple of weeks. It's something we've been hearing for a few years now. There are few stud offensive linemen coming out of college. Guys in the pros literally are going to off-season camps to learn how to block in the NFL. On top of that, the defensive schemes keep getting more complex, with more disguises. A lot of teams are rushing linebackers and defensive backs and dropping DEs into coverage. It's complex. One of the encouraging things about Allen is that he scrambles well, and he doesn't go down easily. It's a skill all QBs need now - if you're a statue back there, you're going down.
  2. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    Exactly. I think we've seen it already. How much better he gets remains to be seen.
  3. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    Yeah, that one was just for you.
  4. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    First, it's standard operating procedure on message boards to misinterpret clear statements. Anyway, I will say here and now that anyone who doesn't see Hall of Fame potential in Allen is an idiot. An idiot. He has Peyton Manning size. He runs and throws like Elway. He stays upright in the pocket like Roethlisberger. Now before anyone says Shaw is nuts - I didn't say he's going to the Hall of Fame, I didn't say he's as good as those guys. BUT - if you're going to start a rookie QB and try to develop him into a quality starter in the NFL, why wouldn't you want to start with 6'5", 240, with speed, brains and a cannon? I don't get all the whining. I'll say it again: I'm excited. Bills have the best prospect at QB in the past 30 years, maybe ever.
  5. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    I'm not comparing Allen to anyone. I've been arguing against the idea that starting Allen now might ruin or harm his development or something. The people I named weren't ruined by starting early in their careers. And why not compare him to Newton and Watson? He's already shown comparable size, arm strength, running ability and ability to avoid sacks and take hits. Fundamentally, I think I'm here arguing with people because I think Allen's already demonstrated Hall of Fame potential. He isn't playing like a Hall of Famer, but most Hall of Famers didn't play like it in their rookie seasons. But size, arm strength, instincts in the pocket, leadership, character, he's checking all the boxes. So I just don't get why people are moaning and groaning about the current situation. I went to the game Sunday thinking the Bills probably would lose. I didn't care. I wanted to see Allen, and I wasn't at all disappointed. He looks nothing any of the failed QBs of the past 15 years. He's better than all of them in all respects, except that he doesn't have more courage than FItz. Equal maybe, but not more. I'm excited about him and excited he's playing. I think by midseason the media and everyone else will be taking notice of him. And I think that the Bills will be much better on offense then than they are now. QB is the one guy who can make everyone else better, and as Allen gets his feet wet I think he's going to do just that. I think everyone will be surprised how much better the Bills receivers look in November.
  6. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    First paragraph: Ther is not one example, including Derek Carr, who people can agree had his career ruined by starting early. Second paragraph: So Manning and Ryan and Wilson and Deshaun Watson all had success starting early,. So what's you're point? That Allen can't be like them? Third paragraph: When McD and Allen say Allen isn't ready, they mean they'd like for him to have learned more before he started. NO ONE is ready when they start in their first couple of years. Fourth paragraph: This stuff about him getting hurt is indeed nonsense. Allen didn't take any more hits or expose himself in ways that other quarterbacks don't. He's just playing football. His offensive line isn't great, but he isn't getting hit more than a lot of other QBs. So agasin I ask, what's your point. Are you saying that if you're the HC, you wouldn't play Allen?
  7. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    That's for a different thread. This thread is about Allen.
  8. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    First, Aikman played 11 games, attempted 293 passes and was sacked 19 times. And you're right, he sucked. So did their other quarterbacks. The team sucked, too. Offense was horrible, defense was horrible. Second, so now your point is what, that good rookies on bad teams shouldn't play until they get good coaches? Huh? So Allen should ask to sit until his contract runs out so he can pick a QB coach? It's very simple. The Bills don't have a great array of talent, and they have a very good prospect at QB. What you do with a very good prospect on a not so good team is you play him. There is nothing to be gained by sitting him.
  9. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    That's well stated, but it's not on the point. No one is arguing that Allen is in the perfect position for him to start his career. It's obvious that if you could draw it up, you'd put Allen on a better team with a better line and better receivers. That's certainly true. The point is that some people seem to think that because Allen is on a bad team with a bad line and bad receivers, he should sit on the bench. I don't agree. It's just football. Go out and play, and as you play, you'll get better. And although it was nice for Mahomes to sit for a season, Allen will be a better QB at the beginning of his second season than Mahomes at the beginning of his. Allen will learn a LOT more this year than Mahomes did sitting last year. I don't agree about the "plateau." The team's performance may plateau if they don't get better talent, but Allen doesn't have to plateau. Michael Jordan played on a lot of bad teams, but HE kept getting better. Eventually, the Bulls put good players around him and gave him a Hall of Fame coach, and the team started winning. Allen will keep getting better for the next five years, whatever the Bills do.
  10. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    This is more or less nonsense. First, you asked that someone name good QBs who started their careers on bad teams. I named three, and Bob Griese is another. There are 26 modern era QBs in the Hall of Fame, and FOUR of them started on bad teams. Statistically, that's about what you'd expect, about 15%. Then you try to twist the stats to prove that somehow those guys didn't play on bad teams. Aikman played on the worst offense in the league, and you say it was different because he played behind a good offensive line. How good could that line have been if they were the worst offense in the league? And, yes, he was sacked only 19 times. Why? Because he only attempted 293 passes. Prorate that to 500 passes, what a most QBs throw in a serious, and he has 30 sacks or more. There simply is no evidence that starting as a rookie on a bad team impairs the development of QBs. Is this situation perfect? No. Allen would be better off with a better line (so would Eli Manning), a better QB coach, a better receiving corps, better this, better that. None of it really matters. He's on the field and he's learning, and that's better for him than being on the bench. I think this is nonsense. It's harder to succeed if you start for a bad team? Yes, in that season, it's harder to succeed. But there's no evidence that it's harder to be good in your fifth season if your first season is with a bad team. I mentioned Steve Young, who's a good case in point. He didn't seem to have any trouble overcoming starting his career on a bad team. Who says Allen isn't ready? Does he look like he doesn't know what he's doing? No. Has he taken any serious hits? No. There are probably 10 teams in the league whose offensive line is as bad as Buffalo's. I don't see any teams benching their QBs because they're afraid they'll get injured. QB PTSD. Nonsense. Russell Wilson has been a league leader in sacks since starting as a rookie. He hasn't been beaten up, he doesn't have PTSD, he doesn't do anything expect play great. This is all just nonsense. Put the guy on the field and let him play. He held his own Sunday, and there is no reason to believe that he won't improve as the season progresses. He'll make mistakes like other rookies, he'll get hit like other quarterbacks, and he'll play football.
  11. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    I think he's shown a lot. First, he isn't showing many rookie negatives. No sulking, no confusion calling plays, no intimidation from a game that's too big or too fast for him. We're not seeing any of the rookie ugliness we got from EJ or JP. Second, he's shown good command of the huddle and respect from his veteran teammates. Third, he's shown none of the wild inaccuracy people seemed to think he had, and none of the overambitious gunslinger mentality he was accused of. Fourth, he's shown great presence in the pocket. Fifth, he's shown an ability to look off defenders and to find and hit receivers downfield, something Taylor struggled with. He has plenty of positives and, to date, few negatives. Yes, the roster is what it is, but I don't think it's as bad as people think. For example, look at sacks through two games. Now, the Bills started two totally inexperienced QBs, and inexperienced QBs always take more sacks. So you'd expect the numbers to be bad because of that. The Bills have taken 11 sacks, one less than Seattle, one more than Cleveland (Wilson and Taylor are perennial sack leaders). There are plenty of teams with 6 sacks or more, and watching the games I'm amazed how MOST teams have trouble protecting the QB. The Bills aren't a terrible outlier, and as Allen learns more, he'll take fewer sacks. Plus, it's a new offense for everyone, and Allen didn't get a lot of first team reps all summer long. He and the receivers will develop some rapport that they don't have yet. For example, he and Benjamin miscommunicated on the back-shoulder incompletion early in the game Sunday. That rarely happens once two guys know each other. Once they know each other it's also easier for the QB to avoid sacks, because he knows where to find his outlet guys. So I fully expect that the offense will improve from week to week. I think Daboll was reluctant to throw the ball a lot on Sunday, and I think that will change, too. As Allen learns more and gets better with his receivers, they'll let him throw it. You can be sure the whole league already knows that you can't sit on the short routes against Allen. He keeps hitting guys over the middle 15-20 yards downfield, and that's going to continue. Once that happens, Daboll will start popping receivers open on shorter routes. Allen will move the sticks better then, his completion percentage will go up, and the running backs, whoever they are, won't have to worry so much about the safeties in the box. I really expect that by midseason the media will be singing a different tune about Allen.
  12. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning and Steve Young had okay careers starting with bad teams. Allen's getting a great education playing now. He's already showing he can handle the mental and physical pressure. I'm confident his sacks per game will go down as the season progresses. He'll read the defenses better, and he'll know his receivers better.
  13. Shaw66

    SI - Josh Allen, Thrown to the Wolves

    I don't think it was balanced at all. I think the story was written based on stats and conventional wisdom. That is, it started for the assumption the Bills are train wreck and went on from there. It recites all the things the Bills have done wrong in handling their QB situation, things that weren't even wrong. Getting rid of Taylor wasn't surprising - getting a decent pick for him was surprising. What it ignores, completely, is how Allen is playing. Who cares if they unloaded McCarron? Who cares if there's a vet in the QB room to mentor him? Who cares if coming out of college the "experts" said he was raw and needed work? How about just watching what he does on the field and making a judgment about whether the guy looks like an NFL QB? The fact is he DOES look like an NFL QB. When the Bills start winning, the writers are going to say that Allen took his lumps and grew up and blah, blah, blah. In fact, he's playing as better than Taylor and Trubisky. He looks as good as Darnold but doesn't have his stats. The press just doesn't want to tell that story.
  14. Shaw66

    THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Limited Excitement

    Well, because Allen can throw the medium deep ball so well, even with mediocre receivers, they should be able to force the defender to back pedal for a step or two. That should give them the opportunity to break off the down field route and get some separation. If the defender continue to play the receivers tight off the line, then the 15 yard in or out routes should create separation. There are very few receivers who get open with one on one moves. Most do it with scheme and sharp cuts, Chris Hogan being a good example. There is no reason Jones can't get open if the Bills have a good scheme and he runs his routes as he should.
  15. Shaw66

    THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Limited Excitement

    That's why I've complained about the pass patterns. Pretty much every team gets guys open on slants and drags, but I didn't see much of that Sunday. Frankly, without McCoy, let Allen throw it 40 times. I think we will like the results.
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