Cody Ford to Arizona

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Missing the point.  The pick was bad and/or Ford didn't have the right attitude.  Getting a 5th rounder for a guy you may have been cutting -- and certainly weren't signing to a 2nd contract -- is what good GMs do.

 

Plus, we might  get to see

get run over a few times...😁

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[Coach Tuesday]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

A 5th round pick for Cody Ford.  Beane is amazing.

Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board.  Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster.  
 

Josh Allen is “amazing.”  Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out.

[Donuts and Doritos]

Nice work Beane! Now trade Howard next & save us some $$.

[Scott7975]

From now on I am just going to refer to Beane as The Wizard

[buffaloaggie]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board.  Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster.  
 

Josh Allen is “amazing.”  Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out.

Boatload? No. We know he's not perfect, but he's gotten way more hits than whiffs.

[jkeerie]

Remember too that Ike Boettger is on IR.  When he comes back, likely whoever takes Cody's spot will be demoted.

Edited August 22, 2022 by jkeerie

[Matt_In_NH]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board.  Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster.  
 

Josh Allen is “amazing.”  Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out.

 

What is your assessment on the overall body of work?   Show me a GM who has not wanted some moves back...this criticism is a little over the top.  Do the Bills have the best or one of the best rosters?

[BaaadThingsMan]

4 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Beane turning water into wine. 

[Coach Tuesday]

17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Moved him at the top of his market.     One more Dawkins interview about him and it might have been a conditional 7th. 😉

Top of market = finally a couple of quarters of semi-good tape on him but as you mentioned, on Cook’s long run Ford easily should’ve been flagged for an arm hold and he also got flagged for a hands to the face.  He’s a terrible football player and apparently had few friends in the locker room or the organization.

[BillsFanSD]

3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board.  Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster.  
 

Josh Allen is “amazing.”  Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out.

There is not a single GM anywhere in the league who has batted 1.000 on every personnel decision.  Obviously Bean would like to have the Ford pick back, and obviously he'd like to have Teller back.  

 

Guy took a completely irrelevant franchise and turned it into the best top-to-bottom roster in the NFL and you guys are looking for nits to pick.

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Beast said:

Good luck to Ford. Thank you for your service.

 

Sounds like Washington speaking to General Lee...

[Inigo Montoya]

I don't have any stats in front of me but is sure seems like Beane uses his strongest witchcraft on day three of the Draft.  A 5th rounder gives him another trip to the batter's box.  I like it!

[wjag]

Good luck Cody..

 

Have fun blocking Aaron and Leonard.

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

From now on I am just going to refer to Beane as The Wizard

Ford calling Beane before the trade:

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Those comparing his 2nd round draft position to a 5th round pick in the trade might not be wrong, but you’re definitely looking at it differently than I am. 
 

Not all picks work out. Some are busts. In my opinion, CF was a bust. It happens. But to get anything other than a 7th round pick three years from now is incredible. In my humble, often questionable, opinion. 

 

 

I agree..........but one of the aspects of this is that for the first time we actually got to see a GM using bad process to make a draft pick when Beane selected Cody Ford........thanks to "Bills Embedded".

 

Beane said he couldn't sleep the night before that second round because he was so desperate to move up for Cody Ford.    There was nothing about Cody Ford that should have screamed "must have".    He was a guard with RT flexibility.    Those are very different than an offensive tackle who could possibly play the left side.    His RAS was terrible and his tape was "meh".   

 

It was Beane's "Reggie Ragland" "off the bus starter" moment.     I think he learned from it.   If nothing else.......not to be so candid on Embedded.  

 

In retrospect the funniest part about that episode was Beane saying Bobby Johnson was doing backflips about getting Cody Ford.   Gold! 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[aceman_16]

Truly wish the man gl! New place hopefully a new start and a fine career.

[SWATeam]

Just now, BillsFanSD said:

There is not a single GM anywhere in the league who has batted 1.000 on every personnel decision.  Obviously Bean would like to have the Ford pick back, and obviously he'd like to have Teller back.  

 

Guy took a completely irrelevant franchise and turned it into the best top-to-bottom roster in the NFL and you guys are looking for nits to pick.

No one is saying Beane isn't doing a great job.  But the "Beane is a wizard" angle is a bit much in this particular case since he traded up in the second to get him.

[JGMcD2]

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board.  Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster.  
 

Josh Allen is “amazing.”  Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out.

32 teams passed on DK Metcalf… does that mean every GM has made a boatload of mistakes as well?

 

I’m not sure I understand the point you keep making about Beane not hitting on EVERY move he makes. What GMs would you rather have? 

Try a comparing him to other GMs…

Edited August 22, 2022 by JGMcD2

[ytownblofan]

18 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Beane targeting a 5th knowing it's his best round in the draft...

 

 

Came here to say the same thing

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

There is not a single GM anywhere in the league who has batted 1.000 on every personnel decision.  Obviously Bean would like to have the Ford pick back, and obviously he'd like to have Teller back.  

 

Guy took a completely irrelevant franchise and turned it into the best top-to-bottom roster in the NFL and you guys are looking for nits to pick.

He's not picking nits or saying Beane is a bad GM.

He's just pointing out that calling the final resolution of a multi-tiered mistake "amazing" is nonsensical and over the top.

[Ralonzo]

2 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I don't have any stats in front of me but is sure seems like Beane uses his strongest witchcraft on day three of the Draft. 

 

 

How do you know he is a witch?

[947]

1 minute ago, jkeerie said:

Remember too that Ike Boettger is on IR.  When he comes back, likely whoever takes Cody's spot will be demoted.

Boettger is coming off a torn achilles, I honestly doubt he'll play again. Very few linemen have played again after that injury, and the ones that did were shadows of their old self.

 

With Ford gone & Mancz possibly out long term, I suspect we'll be looking at cuts for a replacement OG.

[Rc2catch]

There goes one of the whipping boys. 
Wish him the best in the desert.
 

Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. 

So who is left on the message board hate list? 
Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot

OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. 

Moss gaining some steam 

Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team 

Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? 
Epenesa is a trendy name 

[LABILLBACKER]

26 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I would classify this as a good trade for the Bills.

Ford had zero capacity to pass protect. Getting a 5th is a very good value. 

[The Wiz]

So they still need to make 1 more cut right?  Assuming this trade takes them down to 81 players.

[LABILLBACKER]

Just now, Rc2catch said:

There goes one of the whipping boys. 
Wish him the best in the desert.
 

Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. 

So who is left on the message board hate list? 
Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot

OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. 

Moss gaining some steam 

Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team 

Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? 
Epenesa is a trendy name 

Yeah and Edmunds running into Milano trying to tackle Boone only solidified that lead. 

[Rigotz]

25 minutes ago, Georgie said:

Disappointing return for a 2nd round pick.

 

24 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

This isn't "robbery"

 

The Bills spent an early 2nd round pick on him. Overall, this was a loss. But that's how it goes sometimes in the NFL. They can't all be success stories.

You’re not looking at this the right way.

 

Yes, he was a 2nd round pick and we figured out that he’s not good enough to start pretty quickly. It was a miss and every GM misses.

 

Every GM doesn’t, however, get value back for their missed picks. Usually, you just have to cut guys when you miss.

 

That makes this a win.

[WotAGuy]

3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

No one is saying Beane isn't doing a great job.  But the "Beane is a wizard" angle is a bit much in this particular case since he traded up in the second to get him.

Correct; let’s save “wizard” for cases like me - divorcing my wife that was 8 years older than me and marrying my current wife who is 8 years younger. 

[stevestojan]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

There goes one of the whipping boys. 
Wish him the best in the desert.
 

Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. 

So who is left on the message board hate list? 
Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot

OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. 

Moss gaining some steam 

Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team 

Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? 
Epenesa is a trendy name 

Edmunds deserves the criticism. 
I also hate Bass’ eye black. 

[Dan Darragh]

28 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

Does this mean Bobby Hart makes the 53,?

and if so, can Tommy Boyce be far behind?

[Rc2catch]

Just now, stevestojan said:

Edmunds deserves the criticism. 
I also hate Bass’ eye black. 

Criticism is different than hate. Every player in the league gets criticized 

[MJS]

26 minutes ago, Georgie said:

Disappointing return for a 2nd round pick.

Can't hit on all your draft picks. Ford has been a disappointment for sure.

 

But good on Beane for getting something in return and moving on instead of stubbornly holding on to a failed draft pick.

[Bobby Hooks]

Oh nice! We’ll get next years Shakir for Ford. 

[CountDorkula]

3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

There goes one of the whipping boys. 
Wish him the best in the desert.
 

Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. 

So who is left on the message board hate list? 
Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot

OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. 

Moss gaining some steam 

Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team 

Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? 
Epenesa is a trendy name 

 

I mean AJ does deserve the criticism he gets. Two years and 2.5 sacks for a "Pass Rushing" DE is not ideal. 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

30 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think this locks in Bobby Hart's roster spot as a backup guard. He has apparently looked pretty good at that spot this offseason.

Having a guy who can at least be serviceable at guard and tackle is highly valuable and may mean that we can keep an extra D-lineman active.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

33 minutes ago, FireChans said:

LMAO OUR LONG TIME NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER

You must be old enough to remember Nixon! (as am I)

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

There goes one of the whipping boys. 
Wish him the best in the desert.
 

Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. 

So who is left on the message board hate list? 
Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot

OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. 

Moss gaining some steam 

Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team 

Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? 
Epenesa is a trendy name 

 

In fairness, he was drafted in the second round (after moving up two spots) with hopes of becoming a tackle.  He ended up being a below-average guard.  I don't think this was from any kind of a lack in effort.  The kid was simply over-drafted.  It happens.  Beane is still a phenomenal GM.  But he whiffed on Ford.

[GunnerBill]

I think a 5th is a good return for a bust. 

[Warcodered]

Just now, MJS said:

Can't hit on all your draft picks. Ford has been a disappointment for sure.

 

But good on Beane for getting something in return and moving on instead of stubbornly holding on to a failed draft pick.

Also something missed in all this is that yes Ford is a clear miss now in retrospect but at the time I don't remember anyone really thinking him as a player was a bad pick at the time.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

In fairness, he was drafted in the second round (after moving up two spots) with hopes of becoming a tackle.  He ended up being a below-average guard.  I don't think this was from any kind of a lack in effort.  The kid was simply over-drafted.  It happens.  Beane is still a phenomenal GM.  But he whiffed on Ford.

 

Meh. Based on Dawkins' comments on Saturday I think some of it may well be down to lack of effort and professionalism from Cody. Though no doubt it wasn't a good pick.