wagne591 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Looking at how McDermott handles his players during season and in game is sometimes questionable...don't you think? McKenzie fumbled the punt against Indy...yes it was bad...but everyone on the team seemed to be having a bad day during that one. Did that mean that McKenzie needed to be benched for that game and then on the IA list the following week. I don't think so, that is why McKenzie may be leaving us. Z. Moss fumbled the ball in 2020 against SF early in the game...yes it was on the goal line...but I don't think coach had to benched him for the rest of the game. D. Singletary had fumble problems in 2020 and early this year he seems to under utilize him until the end of the year...that is probably a bad example...but you get the point. Not to mention his in game management as a coach...he always preaches Super Bowl caliber to his players well maybe he needs to look in the mirror too. He is the head coach which means he is responsible for everything that goes on, on the field. Bad play calls by the Offence or Defense...on him. Weather or not to go for it on 4th down...on him. Communication on the side lines...on him. Questionable use of TO's during the game...on him. This one baffles me as a spectator and watching how other coaches use their time outs. He never uses his time outs to manage situations...(i.e. after we scored a go ahead TD with 13 seconds left. We still had one TO to burn, why not use it to calm the team down after the big play lets catch our breath and make sure everyone is on the same page on how to close out the game. Make sure Bass knows its a squib kick (trust but verify...leadership 101). Make sure everyone knows the situation K.C. has 10 seconds basically (less then 10 seconds with a squib kick/3 seconds or less for FG try) to get in FG range with 3 TO's at their disposal so cover the whole field. Instead he uses his TO on the second play on Defense to see what the Chiefs will do giving them more time to come up with a play. Not a Super Bowl Caliber moment for our coaching staff and it falls on McD. He is a great coach but not a great game manager. This might keep our own guys from resigning or it might scare potential FA's from coming here. 7 37 2 5 4 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 How many ellipsis can one poster use in one very long paragraph? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Nah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Resigning or re-signing? 🤔 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagne591 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Resigning or re-signing? 🤔 its early 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mark80 said: How many ellipsis can one poster use in one very long paragraph? 2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Resigning or re-signing? 🤔 Ho-lee cow. Must have been a 'calling all grammar police' call! 😁 🚓👮🏿♀️👮🏻♂️ Edited February 18, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, wagne591 said: This might keep our own guys from resigning or it might scare potential FA's from coming here. This has been a gem. McDermott is scaring coaches away (per a previous thread) and now players too. Tre White, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, Taron Johnson and Josh Allen were absolutely petrified to sign their extensions here. 9 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I don’t want players who have an issue with being benched for performance reasons on the Bills. 18 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mark80 said: How many ellipsis can one poster use in one very long paragraph? 12... The answer was 12... At least it wasn't... 13 🙄 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Clear troll post. Don't take the bait. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I’m not reading that. 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Malazan said: Clear troll post. Don't take the bait. It seems more like a Debbie Downer post than a troll post IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 "Weather or not" there is any substance to this post lets not overlook that this site was due for another cry for McDermott's head. If you are some type of long time fan who is excited about the future - sees a competent FO, good coach, and franchise QB -and see a possible 8 year run as a top team in the league - please take care in the threads you open. Your buzz can be negatively affected by the newbie fans who want, no demand, a superbowl win every year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, wagne591 said: Looking at how McDermott handles his players during season and in game is sometimes questionable...don't you think? McKenzie fumbled the punt against Indy...yes it was bad...but everyone on the team seemed to be having a bad day during that one. Did that mean that McKenzie needed to be benched for that game and then on the IA list the following week. I don't think so, that is why McKenzie may be leaving us. Z. Moss fumbled the ball in 2020 against SF early in the game...yes it was on the goal line...but I don't think coach had to benched him for the rest of the game. D. Singletary had fumble problems in 2020 and early this year he seems to under utilize him until the end of the year...that is probably a bad example...but you get the point. Not to mention his in game management as a coach...he always preaches Super Bowl caliber to his players well maybe he needs to look in the mirror too. He is the head coach which means he is responsible for everything that goes on, on the field. Bad play calls by the Offence or Defense...on him. Weather or not to go for it on 4th down...on him. Communication on the side lines...on him. Questionable use of TO's during the game...on him. This one baffles me as a spectator and watching how other coaches use their time outs. He never uses his time outs to manage situations...(i.e. after we scored a go ahead TD with 13 seconds left. We still had one TO to burn, why not use it to calm the team down after the big play lets catch our breath and make sure everyone is on the same page on how to close out the game. Make sure Bass knows its a squib kick (trust but verify...leadership 101). Make sure everyone knows the situation K.C. has 10 seconds basically (less then 10 seconds with a squib kick/3 seconds or less for FG try) to get in FG range with 3 TO's at their disposal so cover the whole field. Instead he uses his TO on the second play on Defense to see what the Chiefs will do giving them more time to come up with a play. Not a Super Bowl Caliber moment for our coaching staff and it falls on McD. He is a great coach but not a great game manager. This might keep our own guys from resigning or it might scare potential FA's from coming here. Lots of coaches bench fumblers. The Mckenzie week inactive was really... he took a ball out he shouldn't have, then fumbled it untouched. There's fumbles, and there's mistakes that essentially cost the team their ability to compete. Stevenson was coming back from IR the same week, so it was really bad timing to screw up that badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris from Rochester Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 People will want to come here for a chance at a Super Bowl. As long as we have JA17 that won't change. Plus McDermott is a good coach overall and has taken a floundering franchise and made it into a perennial playoff team and championship contender. Players play to win. McDermott and Allen are winners and that will always attract good players 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Grammar is your friend. Clean this up and I will take a gander....maybe. But the short answer is no. McD is not scaring players away from a top 5 team in the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 So because we have a coach that holds his players accountable and wants them to perform well that is going to scare players away? Did I summarize this correctly? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: This has been a gem. McDermott is scaring coaches away (per a previous thread) and now players too. Tre White, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, Taron Johnson and Josh Allen were absolutely petrified to sign their extensions here. Brandon Beane: Does Sean McDermott look like a b-word? Bills UFA: What? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Chris from Rochester said: People will want to come here for a chance at a Super Bowl. As long as we have JA17 that won't change. Plus McDermott is a good coach overall and has taken a floundering franchise and made it into a perennial playoff team and championship contender. Players play to win. McDermott and Allen are winners and that will always attract good players Exactly what McDermott and Beane have done is really impressive. For a long time the Bills were a joke and they have built a winning culture fairly quickly. As for Allen I think his career will be similar to Ben's. A couple of Super Bowl championships, a lot of division titles, and playoff runs over the next 10-15 years. It will end in Canton, Ohio. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 par·a·graph /ˈperəˌɡraf/ noun a distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme and indicated by a new line, indentation, or numbering. "the concluding paragraph" 6 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So because we have a coach that holds his players accountable and wants them to perform well that is going to scare players away? Did I summarize this correctly? I don't think McDermott is going to drive players away or whatever the OP's point was... But the time honored tradition in NFL coaching circles of benching a guy who fumbles is straight up IDIOTIC. It assumes two things: 1) that the player just didn't try hard enough or focus on not fumbling, and that 2) the punishment of sitting him on the bench will somehow better prepare him to not fumble in the future. Note to McDermott and all other football guy meatheads out there: the players aren't trying to fumble, they are aware of the consequences of fumbling; it's a rough game out there and sometimes things don't go according to plan. See the final 13 seconds in KC for further guidance on this topic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Malazan said: Clear troll post. Don't take the bait. 18 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It seems more like a Debbie Downer post than a troll post IMO. I'd call it more of a: "I don't like McDermott" post so let me come up with some reasons why he's not a good to show I'm right. As far as McKenzie goes there were some stories about how there was much more to the story with him about things going on at practice, etc. Likely before any FA player signs with a team, they make some calls to contacts they might have or even friend of a friend to find out what it's really like on said team. Other players know what went on behind the scenes and will tell. Recall reading both this year and last Diggs was recruiting players to sign here. Doesn't sound like there are issues going on to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Paragraphs, bro. Im not a McDermott fan at all and firmly believe he blew a Super Bowl for us…but no, players are still going to want to play on #17’s team. The power of a legit franchise QB is real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, Mark80 said: How many ellipsis can one poster use in one very long paragraph? 14 by my count. But who's counting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Good God make it stop. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Ask BB if he scared players away when Brady was there. He always benched people for fumbling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 With all the people questioning McD for holding people accountable, and not undermining the leaders on his team to go "grab Bass by the face mask and scream 'squib the ball!' at him," I think it's likely that the average age of poster on here is not as high as I generally assume. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: "Weather or not" there is any substance to this post lets not overlook that this site was due for another cry for McDermott's head. If you are some type of long time fan who is excited about the future - sees a competent FO, good coach, and franchise QB -and see a possible 8 year run as a top team in the league - please take care in the threads you open. Your buzz can be negatively affected by the newbie fans who want, no demand, a superbowl win every year. Wondering if these are the same people who used to post on that site that closed down without notice. To me, this place went downhill after that took place. 8 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Ask BB if he scared players away when Brady was there. He always benched people for fumbling. He did it this past season too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Good God make it stop. We are in full blown offseason mode on this board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, wagne591 said: Looking at how McDermott handles his players during season and in game is sometimes questionable...don't you think? McKenzie fumbled the punt against Indy...yes it was bad...but everyone on the team seemed to be having a bad day during that one. Did that mean that McKenzie needed to be benched for that game and then on the IA list the following week. I don't think so, that is why McKenzie may be leaving us. Z. Moss fumbled the ball in 2020 against SF early in the game...yes it was on the goal line...but I don't think coach had to benched him for the rest of the game. D. Singletary had fumble problems in 2020 and early this year he seems to under utilize him until the end of the year...that is probably a bad example...but you get the point. Not to mention his in game management as a coach...he always preaches Super Bowl caliber to his players well maybe he needs to look in the mirror too. He is the head coach which means he is responsible for everything that goes on, on the field. Bad play calls by the Offence or Defense...on him. Weather or not to go for it on 4th down...on him. Communication on the side lines...on him. Questionable use of TO's during the game...on him. This one baffles me as a spectator and watching how other coaches use their time outs. He never uses his time outs to manage situations...(i.e. after we scored a go ahead TD with 13 seconds left. We still had one TO to burn, why not use it to calm the team down after the big play lets catch our breath and make sure everyone is on the same page on how to close out the game. Make sure Bass knows its a squib kick (trust but verify...leadership 101). Make sure everyone knows the situation K.C. has 10 seconds basically (less then 10 seconds with a squib kick/3 seconds or less for FG try) to get in FG range with 3 TO's at their disposal so cover the whole field. Instead he uses his TO on the second play on Defense to see what the Chiefs will do giving them more time to come up with a play. Not a Super Bowl Caliber moment for our coaching staff and it falls on McD. He is a great coach but not a great game manager. This might keep our own guys from resigning or it might scare potential FA's from coming here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 What a bunch of freaking nonsense. There are 32 teams in the NFL. For a FA there are maybe 3 good options for playing time and one good option to join a team in a super bowl window. You really think Von Miller is going to look at an offer from the Bills and think "well they benched their KR after he fumbled while not being touched, may want consider that offer from the Jets" Such nonsense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Weather he scares players away or not, McD will whether the storm. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 You mean a coach that holds players accountable for performance without being a total a-hole? Yeah those coaches never succeed in this league and nobody wants to play for those teams Tin foil hats are definitely in season during the off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Dopey said: Wondering if these are the same people who used to post on that site that closed down without notice. To me, this place went downhill after that took place. Agree 110%. Notice that the OP is now far away and long gone after dropping his dumpster fire of a post. @wagne591 where did you go???? Back to troll land??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 By all accounts the Bills seem to have a great locker room and great team spirit. They have one of the beat quarterbacks in the game and is one of the favourites to win the super bowl. But yeah, McDermott is scaring players away. By the way, his record as a coach for the Bills is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Almost unreadable and then once you struggle through it you realize it wasn't worth reading. Edited February 18, 2022 by Dr. K 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Hasn't Diggs mentioned that he telling everyone to come to Buffalo. Its a great team to be a part of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 some coaches like belichick bench players who make mistakes and are considered a genius disciplinarian some coaches like sean mcvay go for it on 4th and 1 and fail, but are viewed as trusting his players....a players coach i haven't heard one player past or present complain about mcdermott....but hey, dont let that stop ya by your reasoning, if you tell a loved one to do something and for whatever reason it doesnt turn out well.....its your fault anyways, i dont think mcclappity is scaring anybody away....in fact, just the opposite....one of his greatest strengths is getting his players to buy into the team concept, unselfish play. hes got some faults....but scaring away players aint one of em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I hope so. I’m sick of good players. I wanna win w the bottom of the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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