Einstein's Dog

You know what makes me feel better about the draft? Imaging it was done with the intent to trade for an impact WR after 6/1. Then just drafting 1 WR makes sense, even in a deep WR draft. Because If you got two you're just crowding up the Shakir/Samuel/Coleman mix. As for the RB in the 4th, I have no problems with that. Get one that you like there because you may have use for him this season. And if he pans out you can just let J Cook play out his contract and try to get a comp pick.

You are an elementary capologist. The flexibility of salary manipulations is vast. Once the $10M is in Beane can go to work easily. For instance look at DHop's 2023 salary, $1.8M, yet we all know he is getting about $13M a year. With the Tre $10M + Josh restructure the Bills can do it. If they don't address the top tier WR this year, guess what is projected to be the top concern in 2025 - that's right a top tier WR. Who is currently the most expensive playmaker that Josh has, Knox at his reduced salary or C Samuel at his paltry $8M? Ridiculous. So many people like yourself seem to have bought in that this team doesn't need a quality top tier WR. The Bills already have enough of a pool of decent WRs they don't need some middle of the road manageable veteran. They need to add a top level addition - the FA crop does not satisfy that need (nor did another rookie).

We want a WR that projects to be better than Diggs in 2024- DHop qualifies. Did you watch Tenn at all last year? We have young talent- Shakir/Coleman and Kincaid, what we need is a proven 1000+ veteran WR.

Yes, you can call it taking away playing time or call it breaking in a rookie. And the time you want your rookie to have his least amount of playing time is the beginning of the season. That's when a big learning curve takes place. Secondly, the Bills WR room is paper thin. Not having 4 decent WR's is grounds to have someone sue Beane, just criminally bad. And if you wait you run the risk of Tenn having a WR injury and no longer wanting to deal. A trade should be done prior to the season. The DHop possibility was already mentioned and the odds increased with this move. But Beane is doing his due diligence. What's it take to get DHop vs DK Metcalf vs D Adams. One of them before the season begins - lets not worry about stunting the development of our secondary WRs.

I don't think your take on the cap hit to us is correct. The cap hit for Tenn does not transfer over- just like our cap hit for Diggs wasn't Houston's problem. The salary goes in a trade which looks nice for DHop <10M.

I think when Tenn got Ridley the writing was on the wall for DHop. The new coach got a top WR he wants. And now Tenn has Ridley, DHop, Boyd and the first round pick T Burks. That's too much investment in the WR room.

We get $10M from the Tre move. And with a Josh restructure could get the rest. Plus by trading for him you can do some cap games if you extend him a year. Seems very doable in my mind.

I want him before then, get DHop after June 1st. Hoping it's all preplanned. Tenn just got rid of some salary if they move DHop for Boyd. And we could throw Tenn a 4th, extend DHop's a year to make it 2 years

If you didn't listen to Beane and instead looked at the actions, all signs point to a trade. Got rid of top WR and second outside WR and only drafted one (a very reasonable G Davis replacement- upgrade even IMO) Accumulated draft capital for 2025 - extra second and extra fourth Didn't hit the FA WR market hard. Have money coming in after June 1st for Tre. Didn't max out Josh restructure. So for a person like me who doesn't put much stock in what Beane says, the trade market offers a lot more than these FA rejects. D Adams, DK Metcalf, Dhop, DJ Moore, K Allen, C Godwin, D Samuel, B Aiyuk- all excite me more than that FA garbage.

Have you been following the Bills? The regime gave young Josh a surefire good WR in Diggs. Then last year gave him the top/first TE in the draft. This year they gave him a WR with their first pick. Do you really believe Josh didn't know about the Diggs situation? It seems a large portion of that move was done for the benefit of Josh. And finally, I don't think the regime is done with personnel this year. They'll probably add another good WR for him. There is no scenario with Josh leaving anytime soon.

For Chicago I thought it might be overkill at the WR position. The move for DJ Moore was in combination with other moves. K Allen was before they selected Rome. They might want to fast track Rome to grow with the rookie QB. Rome is in a worse situation than K Coleman at the moment and was drafted much higher.

It's ridiculous to rule out a trade. Lets not buy into Beane's smokescreens. Look at the situation, a pathetic WR room, plenty of draft capital and money being available after June 1st. The Bills didn't pick up 2 rookie WRs in the draft, and didn't take any of the better FA WRs-did you ever wonder why?. It was always the plan to trade for one. Trade options are a far better discussion. D Metcalf is rumored available - part of trading draft capital will be for getting Metcalf's relatively cheap salary , $16M. DHop would seem another option, $13M and could extend him another year and play all kinds of cap games. Shouldn't take as much draft capital to get him because Tenn picked him up on the open market. B Aiyuk/D Samuel would probably be at the upper end- but solid possibilities. DJ Moore/K Allen - Chicago has too many WRs that would hamper the opportunity of a top 10 pick (Rome). This is the quality of WRs we should be discussing. Any one of those additions totally reshapes the Bills WR room.

And as far as it pertains to the Bills, trading for a good WR wouldn’t necessarily mean the WR is top 5 in salary. Metcalf is $16M and DHop is at $1M.

You don't construct teams headed by the likes of J Goff or B Purdy the same way if you have a Josh "Freakin" Allen! Josh is arguably one of the best ever at firing 25-30 yard downfield lasers. And the boundary WRs that are penciled in for 2024 for this extreme talent are 1 rookie? Are you kidding me? I don't believe it actually, but a lot of you do and are seemingly fine with it. I can only hope that the lack of uproar over the pathetic WR group doesn't affect the FO and they decide they can get away with rolling this mess out.

I was more confident until I started to consider the T Pegula economics. Without Kim he may be more willing to go with a relatively inexpensive rebuild year. And for the FO, McB's get a non-pressure low expectation year. But yeah, why the fans would be on board is baffling. Get Josh a good WR group!

I agree, to keep his placement as a top GM in my mind, this all comes together with a trade for a top tier WR. If a trade doesn't happen this is by far Beane's worst off-season in his tenure. True, lots of people think the current state is fine. I'm not one of them. The youth movement was hopefully the reset. Having one expensive playmaker (outside of the QB) is entirely reasonable - currently we only have $8M C Samuel, it's an inexpensive offense. The longshots still make sense because you want to improve the back end of the roster too. And you need a lot of camp bodies anyway.

Why would you think Beane has a poor feel for quality? The past 4 years he has made rational moves to try and get incrementally better. The entire off-season can all make sense with really just the one move - a trade for a top tier WR. Then only taking one WR in a loaded WR draft makes sense. Letting Diggs go can be justified and makes sense (cancer in the locker room, bad leader). Not picking up a semi-decent washed vet -like OBJ or M Thomas makes sense (would inhibit new rookie and Shakir/C Samuel). The WR room would look better than last years. Year over year the WR room looks better with this one addition. Beane has stated he never wanted to waste a year of Josh. This one move is by far the biggest move to keep the Bills in the upper status that they have been in the last few years. The Bills will have some money to use (Tre and Josh restructure) and draft capital (extra 2+4) next year. If the Bills don't do a trade for a really good WR the problem will still exist for next years off-season, why would a rational GM wait? Beane has been an extremely rational and sensible GM. For the reasons above, I have been expecting Beane to make a trade for a good WR.

If they don't address the top concern, WR, then when a 2025 analysis is done it seems that will still be a concern.

I had thought this was their plan since ditching Diggs. But now with the news of the financing and succession plans, I am worried.

But getting OBJ would have shut the door on getting someone better. My sights are higher than OBJ. It's the same way I felt about drafting 2 rookies high. The post June 1st addition should be real quality. The lowest I would like to see is DHop. Metcalf/Aiyuk/DSamuel/Godwin/and DJ Moore all work.

I hope this is the fallback position A trade for a WR on a higher tier should be the first attempt. Some I would hope Beane is considering: DK Metcalf rumors. Reasonable $13M salary and we have draft capital B Aiyuk - wants money though Deebo - probably available but expensive DHop - $13M salary and would probably not take as much draft capital wise. DJ Moore - reasonable salary and Chicago has too many WRs\ C Godwin - Tampa might want to move one. A quality WR addition brings the Bills out of the rebuild category. And Beane has claimed he would never want to rebuild while Josh is here.

Might not be too late. Chicago bought K Allen and just drafted Rome. Moore has a reasonable $16M salary and we have some draft capital.

I think the strong theme Beane/Brady are going for is catch percentage. Players with better hands. And I think K Coleman fits that mold. The future looks bright. But the present 2023 season needs improvement, IMO, in the WR room IMO. Just one more good WR that lines up outside. I love that you bring up DHop because he is on my wish list. We could send enticing draft capital and find enough cash to handle the $13M salary and play cap games to extend another year. DHop could be a great mentor to K Coleman.

Getting another good WR is not an indictment on Shakir. It is a need for the overall talent level of the WR room and dramatically adds to the offensive potential of the Bills. Getting a good WR would give the Bills 4 playable WRs, Shakir/Samuel/Coleman/and new addition, with hopefully 2 that can play the boundary.

Transition could have meant moving on from the aging veterans to the younger set. But it appears management is purposefully pushing it into the area of rebuild, especially in the WR room. This may just be trying to set expectations low or it could be a trial balloon to see how the fan base will take to it. Right now I do not like it. One because of the rebuild look. Secondly because the personnel is conducive to a dink and dunk offense. I am still hoping for a move for an established WR, then I can think the Bills are contenders.