thunderingsquid Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Greg S said: And yet the NFL has Snoop Dog (cop hater whose lyrics promote killing cops) as the halftime show. That is OK but we can't have the name Redskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, HOUSE said: Wonderful choice, I used to watch him every day In Rochester, in the '80s, we had Ranger Bob... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Washington Commanders sounds like a 2 bit Lacrosse team. better than nothing i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 This one is getting out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stgm1993 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, folz said: In Rochester, in the '80s, we had Ranger Bob... Perinton Square Mall had his little home there Ranger Bob!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Welcome to the 19th century. Yeah, "Redskin" is a derogatory term for a Native American -- and has always been a derogatory term even 200 years ago. "Indian" is simply an outdated term for Native American, much like "colored" or "*****" are outdated terms for African Americans. Apparently you missed the part where I said "fine, I'll concede that one". I get called ethinic terms from the past that just don't offend me because, well, I am an adult. I think what everyone just can't handle is the context in which it's being used. Terms that were used 30 -40 years ago considered to be fine then many people get all bunched up about today. I not only choose not to, but have the intellectual awareness to understand context. apparently many do not. If you have been playing along with my other responses to others willing to have a civil discussion, you'd find that I am actually OK with the name change which was not immediately apparent in my first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, stuvian said: https://www.mediaite.com/sports/iconic-quarterback-joe-theismann-appears-to-leak-the-new-washington-football-team-name-two-days-before-the-reveal/ Good lord. Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Is the emblem a Native American Commander for way back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: As statues disappear of famous traitors. Fixed. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: That's why we need more books. We all need better education. The war wasn't fought over slavery. And by the way, the Union leaders were slave owners also. Lots of flat out lies here. There was only one reason that the Southern states chose to secede from the Unites States of America - slavery. Just read the Ordnance of Secession. Slavery is a focal point. The other BS people pretend were the reasons are noticeably absent. No, there were not many Union leaders who had been slave owners. The Northern states had eliminated or put laws in place to gradually eliminate slavery by the early 1800s. The Civil War started in 1865. They’d have had to have lived in the South to own people as property. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Okay, so a national activist doesn't like it, you will always find nonlocal activists that dislike everything... there's local support in Kansas City from the local people involved that it impacts... the team itself works with local trial communities. Nothing they are doing is wrong, they don't mock or disparage, they embrace. You can find plenty of military personnel that would oppose the Commanders name for the exact same reasons. It's a sports team, they are not disparaging anyone, people got to get over it. I disagree… there are many Native Americans both in Kansas City and beyond that find the teams depictions to be offensive. It might not offend you, but it does actually offend some people of that ancestry. Curious…but what generation did you grow up in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, UConn James said: The former Mrs. Butterworth’s ain’t maple syrup… it’s corn syrup. Indians became the Guardians shortly after this last MLB season ended. And their logo is absolutely terrible. None of those syrups are maple syrups unless it says they’re maple syrups. Unless it’s maple, they’re all corn syrups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, K-9 said: None of those syrups are maple syrups unless it says they’re maple syrups. Unless it’s maple, they’re all corn syrups. One of the things I resolved to never, ever do again as soon as I moved away from home many, many years ago: buy fake maple syrup. The real stuff really isn't that expensive. There is no excuse for fake maple syrup. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 All teams should be assigned a number between 1 and 100 as determined by random draw. No names. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Doubt they’ll need to, the term ‘redskin’ is derogatory. Chief is not. It's really not that complicated of a situation, though it seems to confuse many. 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Agreed. But with one caveat: "Indian" is very much back as a term used by American Indians, including one of my American Indian co-workers. She much prefers it to "Native American" for a variety of reasons. And she gets to choose so I'm fine with that, as long as we understand that most people who use "Native American" around her mean no offense. Calling them "native Americans" inherently describes and defines them through an "American" prism, which has absolutely nothing to do with them. Their cultures (all of them) pre-date anything to do with "America" by a lot. The Canadian "first nation" idea is a much better way to go. Or "aboriginal people" or something like that, as they use in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, 1stgm1993 said: Perinton Square Mall had his little home there Ranger Bob!! Wow... Perinton Square Mall, what a blast from the past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, djp14150 said: with Kraken you have marketing in onKrak being Kraked up Sounds like the name for a breakfast cereal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Commies for short???? 🤔 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Society working overtime to wipe out images of minorities. Land o Lakes butter is my favorite. Got rid of the Native American, and kept the land in its logo. Just like real life. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Agreed. But with one caveat: "Indian" is very much back as a term used by American Indians, including one of my American Indian co-workers. She much prefers it to "Native American" for a variety of reasons. And she gets to choose so I'm fine with that, as long as we understand that most people who use "Native American" around her mean no offense. Exactly. People who belong to a particular racial/ethnic group get to choose what they call themselves. People who don't belong to that group should respect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Aye, aye Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 hours ago, SoMAn said: Professional sports is going overboard with names guaranteed to not offend any group. First, the Cleveland Guardians and now the Washington Commanders? Just when I thought Kraken was the worst possible team name. Considering those teams could have chosen any word in the English language that is not a racial slur, I think it comes down to lack of creativity rather than a limiting of options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, JohnNord said: I disagree… there are many Native Americans both in Kansas City and beyond that find the teams depictions to be offensive. It might not offend you, but it does actually offend some people of that ancestry. Curious…but what generation did you grow up in? Like I said, yes, you can find people offended, but they local community and local tribes support them and nothing they do disparages natives. I'm millennial. Question for you, if military personnel are offended at a sports team for using the name Commanders, should the team remove the name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I love the short name for team - "Washington Commies" or even "Washington Red Commies". I think Joe is being a good old boy and leaking name so they could see reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) This from the Uni Watch (previously a feature on SI & ESPN) FB page. Looks like someone got an aerial or drone view inside the FedEx Field rooms. So… it’s Commanders. Edited February 2, 2022 by UConn James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 14 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: I havent recognized them as a football team the last 2 years... Cause they are THE Football Team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 11 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: That's why we need more books. We all need better education. The war wasn't fought over slavery. And by the way, the Union leaders were slave owners also. Hi. About that "better education". The Cornerstone Speech called, and would like to speak to you. Cornerstone (n): An indispensable and fundamental basis. Scroll down to the paragraph that starts "But not to be tedious" and the following paragraph. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I like Washington Football Team better. I've gotten use to calling them Washington. That will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: One of the things I resolved to never, ever do again as soon as I moved away from home many, many years ago: buy fake maple syrup. The real stuff really isn't that expensive. There is no excuse for fake maple syrup. And with this, I hope everyone, everywhere, would fervently agree. No problem if anyone wants to enjoy some other type of syrup, just don't call it "maple" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Yea… I’m not calling them this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 It’s just going to take some getting used to. At least it’s not as clunky as WFT. 🤷🏻♂️. There have been what look to be reliable leaks on the uni design, at least for a black jersey and possibly a black helmet. As we say in the Uni Watch FB groups, it’s “Black for black’s sake” = BFBS. I just don’t understand this fad and why it’s persisted among teams that do not have black among their team colors. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 12 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: That's why we need more books. We all need better education. The war wasn't fought over slavery. And by the way, the Union leaders were slave owners also. Revisionist nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Commanders sounds like a team from the Arena Football or WFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Commandos sound much better…think about the cheerleaders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Chaos said: Society working overtime to wipe out images of minorities. Land o Lakes butter is my favorite. Got rid of the Native American, and kept the land in its logo. Just like real life. Haven’t bought that brand since they changed , or Aunt Jemima pancake mix whatever the f#%* they call it now. Just stupid and can’t support it. Commanders is just a god awful name and sounds like a low rent semi pro team. Roughriders would have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Haven’t bought that brand since they changed , or Aunt Jemima pancake mix whatever the f#%* they call it now. Just stupid and can’t support it. Commanders is just a god awful name and sounds like a low rent semi pro team. Roughriders would have been better. Roughriders? If we’re going that way, how about the Washington Magnums?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 How about the Washington Reds. That should get Putin off the Ukraine's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Old Coot said: How about the Washington Reds. That should get Putin off the Ukraine's back. Kraft is the one who is in the Red's back pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 They should have given Patriots to Washington and turned New England into the Cheetahs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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