Old Coot

Three thumbs up for Josh.

And still they gazed, and still the wonder grew, That one small head could carry all he knew.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Elam's tenure as a Buffalo Bill

I'll bet Ed Oliver likes this deal. It will make ED better. A true 1 T will allow Ed to be a pure 3T

Pats probably agreed to pay him enough so he could afford shoes.

I hope they still have enough money to pay Mack Hollins. He can't even afford to buy shoes.

I fully agree with you. But unfortunately, a moral victory is just another name for a loss.

You are right. It was helmet to helmet.

I hope Coleman doesn't become a head case like Sammy Watkins. I remember Sammy saying his first year that guys in the pros hit pretty hard and thinking even if its true you don't admit it. Poyer's hit on Coleman was wicked (but clean). It sounds like Coleman may still be mentally bothered by that hit.

Here is Warner's breakdown at about 15 minute mark:

Soem more classic trifectas: Baltimore Colts: Unitas, Berry, Mackey Browns: Graham, Motley, Lavelli

A bit uncertain what you mean here. I agree that Kosar & Bledsoe had more raw talent than Brady but it takes more than raw talent to succeed in the NFL as a QB. It requires a rare combination of talent, vision, spatial recognition, quick information processing and the drive to study for hours the cutups supplied to the QB. I cannot say for sure that Belichick made Brady better but given that most agree that Belichick is an excellent coach and that Brady was not an outstanding collegiate QB, it seems likely that Belichick's coaching made Brady a better QB. Not many QBs become better in the pros than they were in college (Brady & Josh Allen and maybe one or two others excepted.)

My point, which I could have made clearer, is that Brady might have become better for having had a coach like Belichick. The Belichick-enhanced Brady then goes to Tampa Bay and wins another SB; meanwhile, Belichick cannot instaneously produce another Brady. It may be that QBs matter more than coaches but it may also be that a good coach can make a QB more successful. That's all I'm saying. It is notoriously difficult to predict which college QBs will be successful in the pros. Look at how many 1st round QBs turn out to be busts.

Does Tom Brady become who he is without Belichick? One could say the relationship was synergistic and both became better for it.