NewEra Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted indifferent. I think it would probably be a waste of the pick but i can’t help but think “what if he finds his potential”. We’d have our Josh Allen on D. If I had to bet, he turns out to be a bum. I’d predict that his ceiling will eventually turn out to be on par with Bruce Irvin at his best. I really hope he’s not the pick, but the upside would get me excited if he is the pick. I’d be really fired up to watch him play and watch his progression.....hopefully Edited April 21, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I am somewhere between no and meh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 When I look at his highlights, I just don't see a guy who looks like he has elite traits. He looks like a good player, but not a freak. I trust Beane, and if he likes the guy I'll try to be open-minded, but I don't see it - with very little real study, admittedly - myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I second Gunner's response, between no and meh. Unless the Bills find out he was used completely wrong or was told specifically not to tackle the QB in college then I'd guess they pass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Didn’t like the existing Oweh thread? Or the existing “tell us about your most recent nightmare” thread? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I woke up and @Gugnywasn’t holding me anymore. It was terrible. Then I woke up, safe in his arms. Edited April 21, 2021 by Virgil 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I'd be pissed. For all of the athletic traits he had zero sacks. I mean ZERO sacks in 7 games. He only has 7 sacks in 3 years at Penn St. He's only had 5 sacks total over the last 2 years and 18 games played. He also only had 13.5 tfl's in his 3 years/20 total games. I said it in another thread, if we take a Penn St. DE I would rather it be Shaka Toney who has actually produced on the field. Oweh is probably best suited as a 3-4 OLB where he can use that athleticism as a stand up rusher and roaming the flats in Zone coverage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Please no let some other team gamble on him. PS DE's and USC QB's are two things you should never draft BTW rolling the dice with the Rnd 2 pick with no trade up would be about where I put his value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 In most of the draft rankings I've seen, Jaysen Oweh is usually the #5 Edge Rusher (behind Kwity Paye, Azeez Ojulari, Jaelen Phillips and Gregory Rousseau). Most places have him as a borderline late 1st/early 2nd rounder. If the Bills scouts believe they can develop him, I have no problem with them taking Oweh at #30. But I think trading up for a boom/bust guy who probably would have fallen to #30, and who probably won't contribute at all this season. That would be a waste. The only situation where I would be OK with the Bills trading up, would be for someone who absolutely won't drop to our pick. The only Edge Rusher I see that being is Paye. It's very possible that one of the other guys will fall to #30. And if not an Edge Rusher, then one of the Top 4-5 Cornerbacks (personally I'm holding out hope for Caleb Farley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 hours ago, NewEra said: The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted yes, but ONLY because I trust Beane and our coaches and scouts enough to trust them to make the right pick. My real question is, is there ANY pass rusher in this draft that you would want the Bills to trade up for? (Just had this debate with my brother yesterday). Kwity Paye? Rousseau? I’m honestly not sure if there is an elite pass rusher in the class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 hours ago, NewEra said: The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted indifferent. I think it would probably be a waste of the pick but i can’t help but think “what if he finds his potential”. We’d have our Josh Allen on D. If I had to bet, he turns out to be a bum. I’d predict that his ceiling will eventually turn out to be on par with Bruce Irvin at his best. I really hope he’s not the pick, but the upside would get me excited if he is the pick. I’d be really fired up to watch him play and watch his progression.....hopefully We’ll NE, to do what you’re saying, we’d have to swap 1sts, and give them our 6th and 7th. We’d still be short on pts., but they may want the picks. That’s what it would take. Given they are most likely trying to workout extensions for Allen and Edmunds, they are going to need next years picks so I wouldn’t consider that one. If you wait til 24th, the Steelers also need picks for those linemen so we’d have to swap again and give them the 3rd, but they would have to give us their 6th and 7th. Not sure if he’s worth it. Raw talent, and maybe a high ceiling, but are you willing to give away either way you’re third. That’s the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 If I were pulling the triggers next weekend, I'd stay put and take BPA at positions of need with every pick. But I trust the reigning Executive of the Year and his FO Dream Team implicitly. I'll get behind any move/pick they feel is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 go back to sleep OP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I thought this was going to be about the Sabres season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I thought this was going to be about the Sabres season. No, you’re awake It’s crazy how little Oweh did with his amazing physical ability. That roll of the dice rarely works out well for the team drafting him so I have to say I’d be pissed at 30. Talk to me at 61 for a player like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I was waffling between "meh," and "yes." But, ya know... as a dumb fan, I want to see someone kinda exciting drafted at 30, and there aren't going to be that many there. I don't think that Oweh, or Harris are really worth a first round pick, and I'd be surprised if Beane valued them that high, and if there weren't several others on their board with a significantly higher value by the time we get to 30. That being said, I wouldn't hate the pick at all, so I went ahead with "yes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Trading up i would be pissed. However, while hes not my favorite (that would be Azeez please) I would be ok. As for sacks, someone tell me how this is different than danielle hunter who only had 4.5 sacks in 2 years at LSU (1.5 his last year)? I understand hunter was a 3rd round pick but I thought we all realized sacks werent indicative of impact. Below video shows them with similar physical gifts (discounted some with pro days) EDIT: Big 10 handled the season silly and he didnt get to play any non-conference games which probably would have resulted in him getting some sacks. Edited April 21, 2021 by YattaOkasan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 If he was BPA I don’t care who it is. nightmare? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I voted I'd be pissed, but would change my vote to yes, ONLY if he makes a post-draft video about craving sacks. Edited April 21, 2021 by Homey D. Clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 trading up to 2nd isn't feasible so I'm pretty meh on the wet dreams that posters on here have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Depends on what he dips his chicken wings in 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The Bills had a freak athletic CB in the 80's, named Williams, I think, after 3-4 years they realized he couldn't play football though. What a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I voted Meh, because I'd probably be a bit worried, but ultimately In Beane I Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Didn’t like the existing Oweh thread? Or the existing “tell us about your most recent nightmare” thread? No, the Oweh thread doesn’t have a poll. I have no idea about the other thread you speak of. Does it have a poll about jason oweh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I didnt see the "traded up" part when I voted yes NO TRADE UPS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Ask me after the 3rd Jason Oweh thread is posted. I always need to see at least 3 before I can make a decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I voted Meh, then read your post where the Bills traded up This changes everything, and I would certainly vote No I'd be Pissed had I known about the trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Worst case scenario pick imo. This guy has bust written all over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Can't quite get Aaron Maybin out of my mind... same position... same questions about NFL fit... they're both even from the same school. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 hours ago, NewEra said: The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted indifferent. I think it would probably be a waste of the pick but i can’t help but think “what if he finds his potential”. We’d have our Josh Allen on D. If I had to bet, he turns out to be a bum. I’d predict that his ceiling will eventually turn out to be on par with Bruce Irvin at his best. I really hope he’s not the pick, but the upside would get me excited if he is the pick. I’d be really fired up to watch him play and watch his progression.....hopefully I don't know if there is a more controversial position in this year's draft than edge? One man's trash is another's treasure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Depends what we gave up to move up. I like Oweh. The lack of sacks is a lazy analysis thrown around here. I saw a play where he immediately and violently pushed the Ohio State LT(1st round prospect for 2022) back into Fields, but the QB had a quick read and got the ball out before the sack could be collected. I think he will be a good to great player. The only issue I see is that he’s an older prospect so if he starts out slow he won’t have the age excuse Edmunds is still getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 hours ago, NewEra said: The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted indifferent. I think it would probably be a waste of the pick but i can’t help but think “what if he finds his potential”. We’d have our Josh Allen on D. If I had to bet, he turns out to be a bum. I’d predict that his ceiling will eventually turn out to be on par with Bruce Irvin at his best. I really hope he’s not the pick, but the upside would get me excited if he is the pick. I’d be really fired up to watch him play and watch his progression.....hopefully I’d be most worried that I’m dreaming about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Jamie Mueller said: Can't quite get Aaron Maybin out of my mind... same position... same questions about NFL fit... they're both even from the same school. This “helmet scouting” is even lazier than the no sack crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Noweh. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’d be most worried that I’m dreaming about it Is dreaming about the Bills is strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 0 sacks as a pass rusher should automatically disqualify him from being a 1st round pick. This is a pretty weak draft class for pass rushers but I would rather have Jaelin Phillips or Boogie Basham. Payton Turner would be great as a 3rd round pick. Ossai gives me Aaron Maybin vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Depends what we gave up to move up. I like Oweh. The lack of sacks is a lazy analysis thrown around here. I saw a play where he immediately and violently pushed the Ohio State LT(1st round prospect for 2022) back into Fields, but the QB had a quick read and got the ball out before the sack could be collected. I think he will be a good to great player. The only issue I see is that he’s an older prospect so if he starts out slow he won’t have the age excuse Edmunds is still getting. Disagree strongly! With all of his off the chart measurables and with all the action he saw he had zero, nil, zilch...not one single sack! This is a serious legit concern. Not lazy in the least. And, on top of that, you saw “a play”? Now that’s a lazy take! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, NewEra said: The Bills traded up with the Jets and took Jason Oweh. Ugh. Traded up for the ultra athletic Qb Josh Allen Traded up for ultra athletic LB Tremaine Edmunds. Drafted the ultra athletic DT Ed Oliver. Our biggest need is a dominant pass rusher. Oweh is without question the most athletic freak at DE. Jaelen Phillips could also be the pick due to his athleticism. What are your thoughts on drafting Jason Oweh? I voted indifferent. I think it would probably be a waste of the pick but i can’t help but think “what if he finds his potential”. We’d have our Josh Allen on D. If I had to bet, he turns out to be a bum. I’d predict that his ceiling will eventually turn out to be on par with Bruce Irvin at his best. I really hope he’s not the pick, but the upside would get me excited if he is the pick. I’d be really fired up to watch him play and watch his progression.....hopefully Phillips and Oweh both put up ridiculous numbers but they're not without issues. Oweh recorded 0 sacks last season and Phillips has injury/motivation concerns. Maybe the best cb is the safest route?....Maybe Basham in the 2nd? Edited April 21, 2021 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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