Victory Formation Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'd do it for a third, I think Shadys best football is done already, Murphy and Ivory run hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: No way they’d pay a 2nd for an RB McCoys age. Sure they would. They are in win now mode and are stacked at most positions. They won't truly miss a 2nd round pick. And Howie Roseman has previously said he tried to get Shady back after he regained his authority. They wouldn't start off being willing to give up a second, but I bet Beane could get him there under the right circumstances. Edited October 9, 2018 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, purple haze said: Sure they would. They are in win now mode and are stacked at most positions. They won't truly miss a 2nd round pick. And Howie Roseman has previously said he tried to get Shady back after he regained his authority. I’d be stunned if a second were offered , but would take it without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Forget it, we need Shady. Let the Eagles go after Bell. Bell definitely wouldn't need to worry about overuse there...Eagles are allergic to running 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Think they will move him after this season anyway. They can't like the pub from these lawsuits. Don't forget we have a woman president. Edited October 9, 2018 by Wagon Circler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 DO IT! Free up cap space, get younger, add more draft picks.....absolutely trade to Philly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: Uhhggg. Why not ask for a first? Heck, why not ask for 3 firsts? Oh, because nobody will give even a 2nd for an aging RB with a high contract... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Shady for Jason Kelse, or Brandon Brooks, and a later round pick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The source is spitballing. Anyway, Same topic. I’ve reviewed the case and dissent. This one stays. then again, I like beer and was drunk a lot in college.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said: Think they will move him after this season anyway. They can't like the pub from these lawsuits. Don't forget we have aquarterback woman president. Yet they made him a captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'd trade Shady for a 4th in a heart beat, I'd probably even settle for a 5th. It's found money. Make no mistake about it....Shady will not be on the roster next season. It's the first year where cutting him actually saves us a decent chunk of change against the cap.....and he's not even close to being worth what he's owed next year. Plus trading him frees up additional cap space next year, that would otherwise be dead cap if cut before next season, as I believe he would be. If you're somebody who is excited about the $$$ the Bills will have to spend in FA, than you should be excited at the possibility of trading McCoy off of this roster. Get additional draft capital, save cap money (both this yr and next, and this years can be rolled over into next years) for a player that won't be on the roster next year. It's a total no brainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: The compensation at best would likely be a 4th maybe 5th. I’d do it though, he’s got limited time left and the Eagles can still do something this year. This team has tons of holes and another draft pick will help restock the shelves. At that point the cap space is bigger than the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I don't know. I thought we got fleeced when the Patriot took MG for a 5th. I thought we fleeced the Browns when we got Coleman for a 7th. I would say a 2nd for Shady would be great. But I'm not the best at assessing talent apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Shady is priceless. The Eagles would really need to make an amazing deal before I'd even think about it. Edited October 9, 2018 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Forget it, we need Shady. Let the Eagles go after Bell. Bell is untradeable. He isn't allowed to sign a long term deal if traded, so you trading for a 10 rental for a player who hasn't even practiced in 10 months. Not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It isn't just the price of trading Shady..... it's the message. The message is "we are quitting on this season" much more than trading say Dareus last year was. Are they comfortable with that? Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Shady is in the priceless range for this team. You only trade him for that teams most talented lineman or receiver, along with a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Martavis Bryant just garnered a 3rd This team gave up a 4th for Bryce Brown. Shady is a HOF level back, still has plenty of juice in the tank and would be more motivated than ever going back “home” to try and help them repeat. If the Eagles believe Shady could be the missing piece to the puzzle, surely a 2nd or 3rd is worth going after another Lombardi trophy right now... Edited October 9, 2018 by ThunderGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: we have Allen. I don’t know what this means. The guy threw for 82 yards Sunday and looks like he couldn’t hit water from a boat. Trading Shady will do nothing for us. We aren’t going to get anything worth while for an older runningback with a big contract and he is by far the best player on this team. He will not bring back anything that I care about. There are very few untouchable players on this roster and to me, Shady is one of them. Keep him here until he’s done and that’s not now. I don’t care about the eagles. We have plenty of middle round draft picks already. We have almost no great players. Keep the 1 we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Bell is untradeable. He isn't allowed to sign a long term deal if traded, so you trading for a 10 rental for a player who hasn't even practiced in 10 months. Not happening I'm sure Bell is fine. It's a final piece type situation. If you're playoff bound but your star back is out and you can get Bell for the stretch run you go for it. In any case I hope we don't move on from Shady in the middle of the season. It would be uncharacteristically throw-in-the-towel. We could be 4-3 if the defense keeps it up against two beatable teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t know what this means. The guy threw for 82 yards Sunday and looks like he couldn’t hit water from a boat. Trading Shady will do nothing for us. We aren’t going to get anything worth while for an older runningback with a big contract and he is by far the best player on this team. He will not bring back anything that I care about. There are very few untouchable players on this roster and to me, Shady is one of them. Keep him here until he’s done and that’s not now. I don’t care about the eagles. We have plenty of middle round draft picks already. We have almost no great players. Keep the 1 we have Forget stats, it's about his ability and his leadership. It's easy to see why the Bills chose him. I don't care about the Eagles either, which is why I would only take a high round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Flip Johnson said: What was he supposed to do besides gain 3000+ on the ground and lead the team in receptions every year? I never said it was his fault... We've had a spate of terrible coaching, junk QB's, and one very good player in McCoy... That said, he's not getting any younger... McCoy still has significant value which could drop through the floor if he's injured... It's a business decision... Get somethin for him while we still can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 We would literally be trading away the best receiver on the team and definitely not getting an established wr back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If we could guarantee bell signing I’d trade shady for him all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Trade Shady and bring Gillislee and Karlos Williams back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, #34fan said: He never really did what he was supposed to do here... Less posting. More eye exams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I’ve reviewed the case and dissent. This one stays. then again, I like beer and was drunk a lot in college.. What's your stance on boofing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Shady to Eagles for Ajayi and Nick Foles straight up. It puts Shady in a good position to win a Championship. It it gives us a solid Vet backup QB/starter for Allen to learn from and a young RB who should be ready next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Shady is in the priceless range for this team. You only trade him for that teams most talented lineman or receiver, along with a pick. I think you forgot the mark this as sarcasm but with some of the other crazy replies in this thread it's hard to tell. Trade him. Sad for sure. Fun player and our best receiver and a captain but he's not part of 2020- and this is not our year. Do ot soon befor possible injury makes him worthless this year. Sorry shady. . .process first. No one likes dieting but we all like the female attention at the other end. Do it. . . Do it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 DO IT 4 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t know what this means. The guy threw for 82 yards Sunday and looks like he couldn’t hit water from a boat. Trading Shady will do nothing for us. We aren’t going to get anything worth while for an older runningback with a big contract and he is by far the best player on this team. He will not bring back anything that I care about. There are very few untouchable players on this roster and to me, Shady is one of them. Keep him here until he’s done and that’s not now. I don’t care about the eagles. We have plenty of middle round draft picks already. We have almost no great players. Keep the 1 we have I see no point in keeping Shady if offers are coming in for him. This team is not winning more than 6 games with him. A 31 year old RB is not a long-term piece of the current foundation of the team. Allen’s development is independent of Shady’s presence. Why keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I doubt Philadelphia will trade a lot for a running back because they need to infuse their secondary with talent next year. Their defense can't get stops on 3rd down. That secondary has been exposed in every game. They are lucky to not be 1-4 or even 0-5. Falcons and Colts almost had them. The Schwartzian pressure is there but by the time they arrive in the backfield, the ball is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Unless Shady is saying he wants to go back to Philly you simply don't trade your BEST player on offense, maybe on the team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Do not trade shady. There is nothing on this offense besides shady. Can we ever just have anything? Nothing we will get for him, will be even close to as important as he is. Please do not trade him. I agree. Only trade him if he wants it, and if there's decent compensation. He says he likes it in Buffalo, but Philly is probably #1 in his heart, so that could chnage his mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, #34fan said: I never said it was his fault... We've had a spate of terrible coaching, junk QB's, and one very good player in McCoy... That said, he's not getting any younger... McCoy still has significant value which could drop through the floor if he's injured... It's a business decision... Get somethin for him while we still can... The point is he HAS been good for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If we can get a 2nd round pick for shady make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInWilmingtonNC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Has to be at least a 2nd rounder, since that second rounder will be around 60 or so in the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If the eagles called and offered their first round pick is only way you consider it. Mccoy is a team captain, the team prides itself on building culture, trading your best player and captain is not the culture they claim to be building 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It seems that McCoy has bonded with Allen and along with being a captain makes McCoy vital to the team other than in the stats category. No trade for a mid-round pick. To make me think about it it would have to be a 1st and a player which the Eagles are unlikely to do. I honestly think that the Eagles are looking at a few alternatives at a minimum which don't even include McCoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) With a competent RB like Ivory in the back field & the other backs they have i think that Beans brain is going nuts figuring this one out & it would give Shady a chance to go for the big one with the team that drafted him & he could end his career in Philly his home . I think he would be very appreciative of the fans here along with the team if this gets done, i know Shady has grown to love the Bills but it's still not the same i would imagine . If the Bills could some how get a 2 or possibly a 3 & a lower pick i would go for it because in the game against the Vikings when shady was down the other backs did a really good job so i think they are probably in talks as we sit here thinking & writing about it !! Edited October 9, 2018 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: If Marcus Murphy is someone they are confident could step into a much bigger role and be productive than yes. Otherwise, they've been coasting on Shady being the only big weapon on offense for the rookie Allen, taking him away would put it all on Allen. Not something I'd role the dice on. The past few weeks have shown quite the lack of confidence in Murphy as he's been a healthy scratch. He consistently whiffed on blitz pick ups and struggles all around as a blocker because of his size. If they trade Shady, they better think about picking up someone else from a practice squad or wherever because Ivory/Murphy isn't going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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