HappyDays Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Will probably take a 2nd, or a 2 or 3rd and Singletary to get him. No one wants Moss in a trade. Keep in mind Singletary is a UFA next year. Trading a 2nd or 3rd and Singletary for CMC would actually lead to a CAP SAVINGS of $1 million dollars. In a trade the new team is responsible only for the base salary and perhaps some optional bonuses (roster bonus etc) Signing bonuses have to be paid by the team that signed the contract. I looked this up last week as the trade deadline approached, and the latest contract changed things. Carolina will have to eat $25 million in future signing bonuses by trading CMC. Buffalo has no such trouble with Motor, since Motor is in the last year of his contract. They will be looking for compensation in the form of draft capital, and someone better than Zach Moss. What are Motor's base salary vs CMC's base salary you ask? Motor 2022 base salary - $2,540,000 CMC 2022 base salary - $1,035,000 This base salary is pro-rated and paid by game. Motor makes $149k million a game CMC makes $61k a game 12 games left Motor is due $1.79 million (12*149k) in remaining game checks this season CMC is due $730k (12*61k) in remaining game checks this season I think the $600k number is for 11 games once all the paperwork is done. Per OTC CMC has no other escalator clauses or guaranteed money in his contract. Subtract $730k from 1.79 and the Bills would save $1 Million on this year's cap by adding Singletary to a trade for CMC. So would you trade a 2nd or 2 thirds and Motor for CMC and $1M to spend on an OL/S or roll over to next year? I would. CMC is due $11M next year in base salary. Clearly that would have to be reworked, or Buffalo could cut, or trade him. No penalty in a trade since Carolina is on the hook for all of the bonuses. No brainer to me. Edited October 10, 2022 by RocCityRoller 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ghs24mike said: Of course they said that. Beane does not leak! If CMC gets moved it will be to the Bills So the Bills do not leak. Yet 16 pages on a leak. mind you the same internet rumor that has been going on for over a year. 8 minutes ago, WMDman said: well of course their gonna say that Yeah because you know the “source” is probably the same “source” that pitched this crap a year ago too right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: He was arguably the best college football player I’ve ever watched in his hey day with Stanford. But with that said I’m not sure that the problem with our running game is due to the quality of our running backs. The O Line still doesn’t seem to have learned how to open holes on a consistent basis…and even CMC isn’t going to be able to fix that. Don't disagree - but the fact the featured RB for the last 3 years has been essentially Motor along with Moss - behind several different oline combinations and we're still talking about the run game.....I love Motor but he's not very good to elite at anything. He doesn't change games or worry defenses. Currently most every time we hand it off its a win for the D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: Football is not baseball. Adding a running back to our team is not going to improve our offense at all. We score at will when we execute. Ah yeah I should’ve known better than thinking someone who thinks the best roster in football can’t get better would understand the parallel. Flags fly forever no matter the sport, just like dumbass posts last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 IF the Bills are Adamant of going back to the old generation of football. trade for Barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Lol top trending players on Spotrac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said: Ah yeah I should’ve known better than thinking someone who thinks the best roster in football can’t get better would understand the parallel. Flags fly forever no matter the sport, just like dumbass posts last forever. Yeah, you are not too sharp, so let me explain it to you. We don't need to pay some star RB who can't stay healthy to move our offense from a 99 offense to a 100 offense. That is all that he would do for our team and the cost would be enormous. He would barely move the needle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said: Ah yeah I should’ve known better than thinking someone who thinks the best roster in football can’t get better would understand the parallel. Flags fly forever no matter the sport, just like dumbass posts last forever. Yea seriously…also CMC is just so much better at the things we have been asking our rbs to do…a rb doesn’t just have to stuff a run between the tackles to be effective he can still considerably help the team even though our run blocking hasn’t been good Edited October 10, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 We've decided our medical team isn't busy enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unsavory Peterman said: dont write off Barkley. New FO knows they need a better QB and some draft capital. NY is a different animal than Buffalo. If they traded Barkley after a 4-1 start Schoen would be pilloried immediately. That's a trade you make before the season, before anyone has hope. Right now they can see they playoffs and if you take that away all the goodwill is gone. Edited October 10, 2022 by That's No Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So the Bills do not leak. Yet 16 pages on a leak. mind you the same internet rumor that has been going on for over a year. Yeah because you know the “source” is probably the same “source” that pitched this crap a year ago too right? Just like the crap about us in on Von Miller before he chose LA. Or the crap about us in on Diggs a year before we finally landed him. Or the crap about us pursuing Sanders before he picked the Saints. Or the crap about us being in on Watt before he held up a Carindals cap and a Bills cap and chose Phoenix. Can you point to any big internet rumors that were actually false? Because so far, they all ended up true. And most ended up happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Here's my offer for CMC. 1st, you hire Frazier as your new head coach. Then I'll give you a 3rd in 23' and a 3rd in 24 for CMC. Deal?😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, DJB said: So Both the Bills and the Panthers throw water in the random unnamed source throwing ***** against the wall to see what sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Moore is the play from Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: Yeah, you are not too sharp, so let me explain it to you. We don't need to pay some star RB who can't stay healthy to move our offense from a 99 offense to a 100 offense. That is all that he would do for our team and the cost would be enormous. He would barely move the needle. I think you are highly overestimating the cost of acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: IF the Bills are Adamant of going back to the old generation of football. trade for Barkley Think bigger, trade for Tyreek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just like the crap about us in on Von Miller before he chose LA. Or the crap about us in on Diggs a year before we finally landed him. Or the crap about us pursuing Sanders before he picked the Saints. Or the crap about us being in on Watt before he held up a Carindals cap and a Bills cap and chose Phoenix. Can you point to any big internet rumors that were actually false? Because so far, they all ended up true. And most ended up happening. Sure every one of them. As they went elsewhere didn’t they. barkely rumors ertz rumors engram but hey when BOTH TEAMS CALL BS you might want to listen. But your choice. 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Think bigger, trade for Tyreek. Not a RB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just like the crap about us in on Von Miller before he chose LA. Or the crap about us in on Diggs a year before we finally landed him. Or the crap about us pursuing Sanders before he picked the Saints. Or the crap about us being in on Watt before he held up a Carindals cap and a Bills cap and chose Phoenix. Can you point to any big internet rumors that were actually false? Because so far, they all ended up true. And most ended up happening. Looking back on this, we are so lucky he took the money over the potential ring- we wouldn’t have pursued Von this off-season and I’d take him 1000000/1 over Watt. Not that he’s bad, but nobody in that family can stay healthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Beane reading this thread 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Someone owes me $170 for the custom Bills McCaffrey jersey I ordered an hour ago: 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Yea seriously…also CMC is just so much better at the things we have been asking our rbs to do…a rb doesn’t just have to stuff a run between the tackles to be effective he can still considerably help the team even though our run blocking hasn’t been good And they’re the one position on offense where getting the player up to speed can be done quickly. Any pick we have after the first will really struggle to make this roster and the Bills may never have another shot with a roster this good around Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Let's all hold our breath....1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, FireChans said: @Alphadawg7 tell Beane that Singletary rules and there’s no need to do this! Lmao Dude..why do you always try and manipulate what people are saying to be something else? You came into a conversation where the discussion was Devin being able to make a certain play. I did not say anywhere he can't be upgraded from...or that we wouldn't try and upgrade...or that we would resign him...etc. In fact, I have repeatedly said I don't think he will be back. None of that has anything to do with wether or not Devin could have scored on the same run Cook did. I was even in the trade rumor thread talking about I wouldn't put it past Beane to pursue someone he deems could put us over the top. And clearly CMC is better than Devin as he is better than almost every RB in the league. So you need a new schtick man...your act is getting way too old and repetitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Someone owes me $170 for the custom Bills McCaffrey jersey I ordered an hour ago: There must be some ertz ones going around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Let's all hold our breath....1 2 3 Which came first, the stadium renderings or the McCaffery trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 It's not happening. Don't need him anyways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: Carolina is not as bad off as people seem to think. They have a really nice core of young players hitting their prime. And a lot more promising talent on rookie deals. They don’t have to sell. They are not about to rebuild. They simply just need a coach and someone who develops the talent they have. Corral is sitting on IR if a new coach likes him as well so quarterback might not be the huge need fans think. And they are not going to want moss or cook or singletary. They already have Hubbard and foreman and Blackshear to carry the load if they did deal CMC. Better be looking at sending Epenesa or Basham along with some picks. Coaches like their players and their schemes. We see this over, and over, and over…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 All these people hellbent on giving up assets for a RB. fine go get a healthy one. Kamara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, LeGOATski said: Looks like incognito Just now, MAJBobby said: All these people hellbent on giving up assets for a RB. fine go get a healthy one. Kamara. I wondered about kamara before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I’m really not in love with trading picks for rental players. The reason BUF and KC are so sustainable year to year is because they both have elite QB’s, AND also draft/develop at a high level. Now if we can negotiate a trade contingent upon a restructured contract beyond this year, I’d be listening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Just heard this on Charlotte radio also. There is NO WAY we can take on that contract. Does he agree to redo the contract??? Doubt it. You put him in this O and we are unstoppable but I don’t see it happening and hope I’m wrong. If Beane wants to make the deal he will find a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Both teams clearly tossed water on this. when does it get moved into the trade deadline rumor thread??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Moore is the play from Carolina. Who are you benching? 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Both teams clearly tossed water on this. when does it get moved into the trade deadline rumor thread??? How will that improve your day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Who are you benching? How will that improve your day? It will put an obvious rumor where it belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: It will put an obvious rumor where it belongs. It belongs here until someone decides that it doesnt. I fit bothers you that much it costs nothing to not look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Heard it will be a 3 team trade with Ertz and McCaffrey coming to Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) This is by far the Best Message board I have ever seen.. probably will get to 100 plus pages for a move that probably never happens… threads go to die on other message boards. I think the move Beane makes if he makes is a move is not being discussed in the open. He moves in shadows, Beane is a silent assassin.. Edited October 10, 2022 by loveorhatembillsfan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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