Christian McCaffrey rumors

[Buffalo Boy]

2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why? I don't see anything special anymore.

He plays on the Panthers….

for Matt Rhule and Ben McAdoo

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Some other posters here would trade away all the picks every year a couple of times over…

I assume you see the results they are getting actually using their picks to draft players? 

 

 

When your team is a SB favorite and you can add a top player, you look to do so. 

[Royale with Cheese]

I am usually not for RB's but do it....just do it.  It'll put the electricity in the city at an all time high.  We are feeling as good as Snoop Dogg in a dispensary right now....CMC would make if feel even better.

[Joe Mama]

James Cook straight up for him

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

When your team is a SB favorite and you can add a top player, you look to do so. 

We will see … I wouldn’t be holding your breath about this guy 

[thenorthremembers]

57 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   Just heard this on Charlotte radio also.

   There is NO WAY we can take on that contract. Does he agree to redo the contract??? Doubt it.

    You put him in this O and we are unstoppable but I don’t see it happening and hope I’m wrong.

It can be done.   Just depends on if Pegula is willing to pay out of pocket for CMC to turn some of the contract remaining into bonus money instead.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Joe Mama said:

James Cook straight up for him

 

Intriguing.  I think I'd rather part with draft picks

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Joe Mama said:

James Cook straight up for him

They did and Panthers said what else you got..?

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Adam Caplan stated we had strong interest in him in the offseason but he "wasn't available"
 

Ryan Talbot also confirmed this today.

Call me crazy if you want....I'd be willing to part with a 1st + 2024 4th + Moss to outbid other interested teams.

No one will care in April that we don't have a 1st if it's pick # 32......

Im not comfortable trading a #1 for an expensive RB with that injury history. 

1 minute ago, Joe Mama said:

James Cook straight up for him

No,you want running backs on their cheap rookie contracts

[JoeF]

Keep in mind that Dan Morgan knows our players well...I think we will have to put in Singletary and Tyrel Dodson (both would have to agree to an extension) not Moss and toss in this coming year's 3rd or 4th. BTW, I would do this in a heartbeat.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffery-21749/

 

Yes and no.

 

We'd only owe him that if we kept him. None of that $11-12M is guaranteed. So the first approach is as a 1 year rental for $600k.

 

If we wanted to keep him beyond that, we could make an offer at a restructure to give him some guaranteed money, but much less than $12M/yr.

 

Point being, Beane has room to work his magic. And no one does it better.

[Magox]

15 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yeah, but then $11.8-$12M next 3 seasons.

It’s not guaranteed and probably could be restructured.  
 

If he could be had for a third rounder and he helped this team win a SuperBowl, a one year rental to possibly help win it all for a third rounder would be worth it.

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

I would do it for a 5th and McKenzie.  But then use him like a slot receiver/chess piece.  Do NOT slam him into the back of Bates and Stafford 15x/game.

[boyst]

Just now, JoeF said:

Keep in mind that Dan Morgan knows our players well...I think we will have to put in Singletary and Tyrel Dodson (both would have to agree to an extension) not Moss and toss in this coming year's 3rd or 4th. BTW, I would do this in a heartbeat.

Dobson is not going anywhere in a trade. not with milano's history of injury being a factor as well as just not happening.

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

The acquiring team is only on the hook for an apprx 600k this season 

And 11.8 million  next year?

[HamSandwhich]

Just now, Magox said:

It’s not guaranteed and probably could be restructured.  
 

If he could be had for a third rounder and he helped this team win a SuperBowl, a one year rental to possibly help win it all for a third rounder would be worth it.

 

 

Love the idea, just worried about the after effects, ala 2022 Rams 

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

This ain't no Ertz thread 

Hold my beer…..

[RobbRiddick]

Here's a rendering of McCaffrey 

 

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, JoeF said:

Keep in mind that Dan Morgan knows our players well...I think we will have to put in Singletary and Tyrel Dodson (both would have to agree to an extension) not Moss and toss in this coming year's 3rd or 4th. BTW, I would do this in a heartbeat.

That said, Epenesa, Moss, Oliver, Singletary, and Siran Neal are players drafted by the Bills when Morgan was here.   Would you give up Oliver?

[Aussie Joe]

37 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Exactly. The giants are us in 2017. The eagles are us in 2019 fwiw

Who is us in 2021?

 

Is it us?

 

I hope not 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I would do it for a 5th and McKenzie.  But then use him like a slot receiver/chess piece.  Do NOT slam him into the back of Bates and Stafford 15x/game.

i have been on the fence WRT McKenzie. I don't know what opportunity he adds to the Panthers to help a rebuild.

 

McKenzie by most measurables is a JAG. He has an X-factor that shows up from time to time like the Patriots game.

 

I would be willing to package McKenzie with a 5th for CMC.

 

[34-78-83]

36 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

First of all,  Carolina is probably already going to have the 32nd pick.   Them or the Lions.

 

Here is my offer........CMC and a 7th.......for a Bills 6th. 

 

People thinking a rental running back will bring back anything close to a first round pick is just absurd.

 

Beane overdrafts RB's but he isn't that out of touch with the cost of doing business.

 

 

how do you avoid the vomit emoji's for saying essentially the same thing I'm saying? LOL

 

Some of these posters are desperate to give up our #1 pick!

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:

Dobson is not going anywhere in a trade. not with milano's history of injury being a factor as well as just not happening.

Plus I don't see the Panthers looking for players in return for their fire sale. Imo, they'd be looking for picks to build on next year. 

[SCBills]

Clearly we're interested.  Way too much smoke.

 

How exactly are we fitting him in after this year?  He has multiple years left on his contract.

 

Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick?

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

Who is us in 2021?

 

Is it us?

 

I hope not 

Bengals.

 

They won't go as far though.

[Freddie's Dead]

8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why? I don't see anything special anymore.

 

72 for 324 rushing for a 4.5 avg, 18 1D, 2 TD

26 for 188 receiving for a 7.2 avg, 6 1D, 1 TD

 

This dude with Josh Allen?  Fuhgeddabottit.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

And 11.8 million  next year?

 

Just now, SCBills said:

Clearly we're interested.  Way too much smoke.

 

How exactly are we fitting him in after this year?  He has multiple years left on his contract.

 

Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick?

 

Folks, read the thread. The money "issue" has been addressed.

 

 

[Special K]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

 

Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick?

 

It can only happen if they do this, IMO.

[Process]

15 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

Would your offer change if you suspected that Miami and or KC was also in the bidding?

Did CMC become an elite QB and I'm not aware? No? Then why the hell do I care of he goes to Miami?

[Nineforty]

15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

This is why I'd give up a 1st +  to keep him away from KC

overpaying to keep an opponent from overpaying? ballsy strategy.

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

GIT 'R' DUN!!!!!!!!!!!! CMC would make us unstoppable.

Why does he have to be called CMC?  Why don't people call him Christian McCaffrey?  They didn't call his dad EMC.  They called him Ed McCaffrey.  

[JoeF]

7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

That said, Epenesa, Moss, Oliver, Singletary, and Siran Neal are players drafted by the Bills when Morgan was here.   Would you give up Oliver?

No.

[Warcodered]

 

[Freddie's Dead]

1 minute ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Why does he have to be called CMC?  Why don't people call him Christian McCaffrey?  They didn't call his dad EMC.  They called him Ed McCaffrey.  

 

It's a shortening of Run CMC, which was a take on Run DMC.

[White Linen]

18 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffery-21749/

 

Yep - so looks like guarantees are just about paid up.

 

$30M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2020 salary + $7.7M of 2021 salary)

$8.1M of 2022 salary fully guarantees on 3/21/2021 (injury guaranteed now)

$1M of 2023 salary guaranteed for injury

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[WMDman]

I hope this happens, lets get that lombardi !!!!!

[PetermansRedemption]

8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Folks, read the thread. The money "issue" has been addressed.

 

 

Might need to edit my previous statement. I thought he’d be a lot more expensive than this. 

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yes and no.

 

We'd only owe him that if we kept him. None of that $11-12M is guaranteed. So the first approach is as a 1 year rental for $600k.

 

If we wanted to keep him beyond that, we could make an offer at a restructure to give him some guaranteed money, but much less than $12M/yr.

 

Point being, Beane has room to work his magic. And no one does it better.

 

OK, but my point is - it isn't a 1 year rental for $600k.  It's a 1 year rental for $600k plus whatever draft and player resources we send away to obtain him.

 

One POV is "it's worth it - whatever it takes - sell off what you need to sell to get that final piece".

 

I'm not sure that's Beane's POV (for better or worse).

[JoeF]

12 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

Plus I don't see the Panthers looking for players in return for their fire sale. Imo, they'd be looking for picks to build on next year. 

Tepper is not your typical owner.  He is a Wall Street guy. I think he will want at least one proven asset in return for CMC.  I think Dodson and Singletary both are players that Morgan would recommend they could build around.  I think the Bills view Dodson as a tweener - not quick enough or instinctual enough to take Milano's role and not large enough or with enough lateral quickness to take Edmunds role.  The Bills drafted Bernard to groom into Milano's role.  A replacement for Edmunds is not on the roster.

 

Just my view.

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by JoeF