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You love your Ohio State guys don't you KJ? LOL 4 straight wins by my Maize and Blue over the Bucs from 21-24. And with a top notch coach coming in, I see us starting a new streak against the Bucs if Underwood can play up to his potential. So you want Marvin Harrison Jr and then sign Evans Pierce Doubs or Jennings? Sounds good to me. Although Evans will probably pull a hammy as soon as it gets a wee bit cold in Orchard Park.

That's a great chart. Thanks for putting it together. That's a good question to ponder. Eli versus Rivers and Ryan. Interesting that none of them could run a lick. In a do or die game, who would you want of the 3 starting at QB for your team? And I agree that none on the list below Peyton are HOF worthy. Guys like Carr and Dalton shouldn't be on any list. LOL

That's an impressive chart you came up with in your earlier post. Looking at the players, I would keep Prater (more consistent and likely cheaper than Bass). Franklin (great special teamer, and plays with great energy and passion.) Wishnowsky Gilliam, and Milano and Thompson if they fit our new defensive system, and will take a reasonable number relative to their age and injury history. The rest I will pass on because they aren't very good, or are too expensive (Edwards and McGovern, unfortunately) And I overlooked Trubisky. I think he is a good back up. But maybe too pricey if someone sees him as a bridge starter. And it would not hurt to finally draft a guy who has some real upside.

In Aikman's prime teams did not throw the ball nearly as much for the most part. And he had Emmitt Smith running the ball a whole lot back then. If I had a big game to win, and these were my two QB's, I am taking Aikman over Eli every time. I went to the Cowboys-Giants game at Met Life Stadium in November 2013. Tony Romo led the Cowboys down the field at the end for the winning FG. The Giants fans for the most part were not big Eli fans. A whole lot of booing in the stadium. And that was after he won two super bowls. Put Eli's numbers up about against Kurt Warner. I am curious how they compare just on the numbers without any context.

Wow what a reference. I remember Jeff Nixon. He had some big time talent at safety. And he hurt his knee I think. Bill Simpson was good too, especially for the Rams in the 70's. Didn't we also have a safety paired with Simpson named Rod Kush? I remember Simpson's pick at the Jets in the 81 WC game. That was great. And that was a really good game back and forth. Didn't Frank Lewis have a big game for us? And the Jets had Richard Todd who could throw it too. I don't remember that. But I am sure I was pissed too. That was a tough loss. Funny you bring up us playing the Raiders in 1980. I was watching a 30 for 30 last night called Al Davis vs the NFL. Davis v Rozelle. And a lot of the show was about the Raiders and their glory years, and the 3 Super Bowls they won after the 76, 80, and 83 seasons. That would have been great to get the Raiders at home that year (1980) in the AFCCG. Instead we got them a decade later, and crushed them!!

The loss to the Chargers in the 1980 divisional playoffs was tough. We had an excellent team that year. The Bermuda Triangle on defense. Jerry Butler Frank Lewis and Cribbs on offense. Ferguson playing on that busted ankle killed us.

You seem a little butt hurt. He has been a solid player for us over the years. Just never thought his game was that spectacular, to warrant the love he gets from a lot of Bills fans is all. I can remember him getting beat around the edge at times. And taking numerous holding and false start penalties. And I am not much of a fan of his personality. But I don’t hate the guy. We all have our players we really like personally, and as a player. That’s like anything else in life-personal preference.

Stop at good. He was never borderline great IMO. He likes to run his mouth. That is probably his only great attribute. And the huge tire in his middle. Great is an exclusive place for guys like Jason Peters, Trent Williams, Anthony Munoz and Tony Boselli. Good teams get rid of players before they suck. When there is still a return to be had. Other than guys named Allen Cook and Bishop, noone on this roster should be considered untouchable.

Have you seen the video of Peyton coming up to Jeff Saturday on the bench after a Colts series, and just giving Saturday an earful about something he didn't like on the field. And Saturday giving it right back to him. They were both pissed off. You don't see that from Josh Allen ever do you? Its a kinder gentler game today. I tell you one guy who would still be as strong as anyone playing the game today was Reggie White. He was a mountain of strength. I think the dudes back in the day were pretty strong. They could bench press a lot back in the 80's and 90's. I don't think everyone had the speed especially on defense that they do today. Remember Curtis Dickey, RB from Texas A & M, played for the Colts back probably in the Bert Jones era. (Who if he had not destroyed his shoulder back when surgeries did not work as well as today, and played with it damaged would have been one of the all time greats IMO. Threw the deep ball as well as anyone ever.) Ran a 4.19 forty time. Look it up. This was before the combine. It is such a speed game. The brutality is never promoted by the league anymore.

I remember that story. Ronnie Lott was one tough hombre to say the least. An all timer of the game. My son's pinky finger was mangled from playing college football. He can't straighten it anymore. But at least he didn't have to cut it off. LOL

Favre's record doesn't get enough respect. The guy was absolutely awesome. In my opinion the most iconic NFL player of the modern era. He was so exciting to watch every single week. And he was a cool dude also.. I will not forget his last game on the frozen turf of University of Minnesota stadium laying there concussed with his ankle destroyed and purple. He went out like he wanted to. And do you all remember his first game for the Packers in September 1992? That ending is legendary.

My god the game sure has changed on defense. Everyone talks about guys being bigger faster stronger today. But what about tougher rougher and meaner? I was watching the start of the "Sea of Hands" game on You Tube last night. They were previewing the Raiders and the Dolphins over the few years leading up to that famous playoff game at the end of the 1974 season. (I remember watching that game when I was 9 years old.) And they showed a Raiders DB, probably Atkinson just take Lynn Swann out w a forearm to the head and the ball was nowhere near him. It was just a wicked cheap shot that left Swann laying on the ground, probably knocked out. And no flag was called. That was Raider football back in the day. And pretty much NFL football in general. It was a much more violent game played by some pretty mean tough dudes. Remember when the Bills had Conrad Dobler? LOL. He was one tough dude.

I must admit I haven't watched him a lot. Just the bowl game against Boise. But he looked good there. And he looked better than anyone on our current roster. The scouts seem to like him. But I will have to watch some more film. I watch a lot of college football. But other than my team Michigan that I know a lot of the players on. I know more the overall teams because I like to bet a lot on college ball. And not the individual players so much. What about some of those Indiana WR's? They looked good this past season. I know they have a guy named Surratt. And they had a white kid reminded me some of Pierce for the Colts. He made some nice catches in the Nat Championship game.

The guy out of UW is excellent. Denzel Boston I believe his name is. (Hopefully he is not David Boston's son.) He was the best player on the field in their bowl game against Boise State.

Maybe you can be his agent, and drum up some interest in Gabe when he gets healthy. Its just too bad he has no speed and/or explosiveness. Could there be two receivers less alike then Gabe and JSN? LOL