RyanC883 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He is currently 8th in yards from scrimmage per game this year at 102 avg and that's on a team where D's can somewhat key in on him. Wouldn't be able to do that here. RPO with CMC in the backfield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MJS said: How do they get the 32nd pick? Do you mean the 1st pick? Miami forfeited their pick with tankgate Edited October 10, 2022 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, H2o said: Honestly, I think CMC would benefit from the rotation style we have here. Less wear and tear on the body and keep him ready for January, when the games truly matter. It would be the same type of effect as having a healthy OBJ. The question would be who is the defense going to focus on? Diggs, Davis, CMC, Knox, Shakir, McKenzie? It really would be pick your poison and there would be no way to shut it down completely. sure thats fine, but his price tag of 12 million suggests he needs to be on the field as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: So he'd be $1m against our cap this year, $12m against our cap the next two and then $12.2m in 2025. It isn't beyond possibility but I wouldn't give up a lot Tremaine Edmunds for Christian McCaffrey straight up. The Edmunds haters will be happy. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 We need to upgrade Keenum though! Jokes aside, mid round pick and moss and a future mid round pick would be great for CMC. I'm not going to act like I know the cap implications, that's for beane and a few posters here to figure out. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wjag said: Do people really think solving the "Bills can't run" begins with the RB or the fact that the OLINE has no push? Would taking on an injury prone RB solve anything with how this OLINE blocks? Lots of both. And there isnt a guy who plays RB and OL, so we'll go with what we can get. The OL could be improved, sure. But Moss has 40 yards of open green in front of him at one point yesterday, he took forever to get his feet moving (almost like a cartoon where they are running in place trying to get going), and then when he finally did start running he tripped over his own feet for a gain of 6 instead of 60. We could improve at RB and see an improvement in our run game. Edited October 10, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Suddenly some of these players that we thought we would have to extend aren’t looking like as much of a requirement with all these guys filling in and playing pretty well. I’d go cmc over Odell…in a weird hypothetical scenario where I was forced to choose one of course lol if we traded for von midseason we would’ve given up some resources but we probably would’ve won the Super Bowl last season so it’s worth considering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, MJS said: How do they get the 32nd pick? Do you mean the 1st pick? How do Bills fans forget that Miami lost their first round pick and therefore there are only 31 in 2023? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 For the love of God, no. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: sure thats fine, but his price tag of 12 million suggests he needs to be on the field as much as possible. Addressed upthread. $600k this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The acquiring team is only on the hook for an apprx 600k this season Still not worth a first… I would offer a third and Singletary/moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Greg S said: You are assuming he can stay healthy and that is a big IF. I don't know what Beane can do before the deadline if anything but I would rather he improve the OL. This the OL they signed and went into the season with. They aren’t going to make major changes. If there’s an injury I could see it but these are the guys they wanted. I’m not going to really worry about the injuries. Very unpredictable. He went his college career and 1st 3 years in the NFL without missing much time if any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 If they gave up more than a 4th I'd probably throw up. 4 high draft picks in three years on RBs, on a team that can't run block for ****. I highly doubt the rumor is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The acquiring team is only on the hook for an apprx 600k this season Yeah, but then $11.8-$12M next 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 CMC would be a one year rental, with the option to re-structure. I'm not giving up much at all to acquire him. I also don't see how his addition does much to move the needle in either direction. You make the move if you think that he is the piece you need to get over the hump in the 2022 playoffs - no other reason to do it. He will not produce that much more in the season than the combination of our running backs. Just now, Jerboski said: Still not worth a first… I would offer a third and Singletary/moss Absolutely agree. He made it through 5 weeks so I'm just supposed to forget the massive injury red flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Odds of him getting injured are like 99%. So would pass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: and that's on a team where D's can somewhat key in on him. Wouldn't be able to do that here. RPO with CMC in the backfield! Their o line play is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Can we do a deal where Carolina agrees to take on cap space? That kind of thing? He is always injured so he fits right in on this team Yes . We can… They will give him to us for nothing and pay his contract .. Im sure this is gunna happen Edited October 10, 2022 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: CMC would be a one year rental, with the option to re-structure. I'm not giving up much at all to acquire him. I also don't see how his addition does much to move the needle in either direction. You make the move if you think that he is the piece you need to get over the hump in the 2022 playoffs - no other reason to do it. He will not produce that much more in the season than the combination of our running backs. Absolutely agree. He made it through 5 weeks so I'm just supposed to forget the massive injury red flag? For starters, Defenses have to plan for another weapon on our offense who is currently averaging over 100 scrimmage yards per game with garbage around him. He's basically another receiving option with YAC and can also be your RB Edited October 10, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, TBBills said: ok... but what did they say? Stop calling, you are a pest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Sorry but I'd give the 2023 (2nd pick, 64) and 2024 5th. Nothing more. He's too much of an injury risk. Same goes for Saquon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Yeah, but then $11.8-$12M next 3 seasons. Only on the hook for the 1st year, could cut him and not have that, so likely would be a 1 year rental or a restructure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, TBBills said: ok... but what did they say? The Bills asked if they were interested in trading him. They said yes for a Ist round and more considering your first round is so low.. The Bills then said that was too rich for them so they hung up Edited October 10, 2022 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 "one of the teams" and who are the other teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Yeah, but then $11.8-$12M next 3 seasons. Looks like that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Lots of both. And there isnt a guy who plays RB and OL, so we'll go with what we can get. The OL could be improved, sure. But Moss has 40 yards of open green in front of him at one point yesterday, he took forever to get his feet moving (almost like a cartoon where they are running in place trying to get going), and then when he finally did start running he tripped over his own feet for a gain of 6 instead of 60. We could improve at RB and see an improvement in our run game. Don’t forget vision. CM has elite vision when it comes to setting up blocks and anticipation of where the holes will be much less are. Moss is beyond worthless at it and Motor makes some infuriating decision s in this regard also. Great backs can make something out of nothing and amazing stuff out of decent blocking. Dudes an elite back with little wear and tear the last couple years. Then there’s a question of over use vs proper use and a better strength and conditioning program here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Would your offer change if you suspected that Miami and or KC was also in the bidding? 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I love it! LFG!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, cwater10 said: Would your offer change if you suspected that Miami and or KC was also in the bidding? This is why I'd give up a 1st + to keep him away from KC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Yeah, but then $11.8-$12M next 3 seasons. Imo, it would be contingent on an extension/restructure or we cut him. No way we’d pay that. If we cut him after this season, what will he fetch? Injury riddled rb don’t make very much regardless of how talented they are. I don’t think he would fetch more than 8-9M aav. Going from Carolina to the best team in the league and allowing them to give you more guaranteed money….it’s a no brainer for cmac too. i don’t know if paying any rb 8-9M would be worth it for this team. I think Giving up a 3rd rd pick for a one year rental may not be the smartest idea….but if we win the SB and he helps, it was worth it. I don’t think the rams regret paying 2nd and 3rd for Von. Losing him sucks, but winning a super bowl is all that matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, motorj said: "one of the teams" and who are the other teams? Saw the Chiefs and Eagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, motorj said: "one of the teams" and who are the other teams? All 31 other teams have enquired.. That’s what front offices do.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Saw the Chiefs and Eagles. Imagine that! GM's of top tier teams want to acquire more elite talent.....while posters here wring their hands in fear over giving up draft picks and the Salary Cap! Edited October 10, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: GIT 'R' DUN!!!!!!!!!!!! CMC would make us unstoppable. Why? I don't see anything special anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, White Linen said: Looks like that's not the case. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffery-21749/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Why? I don't see anything special anymore. He's averaging over 100 scrimmage yards per game on a horrendous team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 If you bringh up Zack Moss' name in the trade, the deal will be off immediatley. We can't even trade Moss for a bag of rocks. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Adam Caplan stated we had strong interest in him in the offseason but he "wasn't available" Ryan Talbot also confirmed this today. Call me crazy if you want....I'd be willing to part with a 1st + 2024 4th + Moss to outbid other interested teams. No one will care in April that we don't have a 1st if it's pick # 32...... Cap room will restrict us and honestly I think this report is just a recap of this offseason and nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Imagine that! GM's of top tier teams want to acquire more elite talent.....while posters here wring their hands in fear over giving up draft picks and the Salary Cap! Some other posters here would trade away all the picks every year a couple of times over… I assume you see the results they are getting actually using their picks to draft players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson said: If you bringh up Zack Moss' name in the trade, the deal will be off immediatley. We can't even trade Moss for a bag of rocks. I heard we should trade Dave Gabis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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