White Linen

This is allowed, so long as both teams are in three different cities.

How much do you owe on your house?

I had to bust on you for clearly trying to start something in this thread....

And you were going to leave TBD if we drafted Allen...... Well..... We're waiting.... As the late great Ted Knight would say.

The question is a false equivalent. Would you rather have Bateman at $12 mil or Shakir at $13.25 mil? That would be an accurate comparison.

I'm not sure I agree with the bolded, this off season. I think the additions of Palmer and Moore are moves Beane made to guard against the need to depend on Keon. He's going to need to earn his playing time / "bigger role" / define his role. I'd disagree slightly and say Beane's pattern is drafting high character players and IMO, sometimes has passed on higher ceiling guys. He's not overcompensating, it's what teams historically do that draft late in the first. You try to find a player that out produces that slot.

You're talking about fair value and what's being replied to you is market value. Market value is more volatile and while it encompass aspects of fair value, it relies on trends. You're trying to value Cook based on calculations but his value is what the market says.

I had a feeling we were looking at this guy.

I think Kincaid has more potential. I wouldn't trade them straight up just for that reason, let alone the money Pitts would get 2-3 years earlier than Dalton.

As a great philosopher once said; It's not a lie, if you believe it. Just because he can't see it ....

Likely would have had a HOF career, had he been able to maintain some self control and stayed with the Bills. What a disaster he's making of his life.

I use it if I can't remember a roster player name, number, age etc.

I live in Charlotte but was out of town the day the schedule officially came out. Friends were telling me local news and radio was specifically imploring Panthers fans don't sell their Bills game tickets. They know......

I get what you're saying and I don't think any fan enjoys a player they relatively like, posturing against the team they love. I don't even know if this stuff is proven to work. However, RB's especially, the way they get used and discarded. I'm for them doing whatever they have to, in order to earn every last dollar.

I think you make good points about the offensive line but I also disagree that any RB can replace Cook's production. I'm not saying he's irreplaceable but he's not easily replaced, IMO.

Small world, obviously being from Charlotte been to Rock Thrill many many times. Then you know the UNC love is intense, hence I decided to root for Duke, haha. BB will do very little recruiting, IMO. They have the infrastructure to take care of that. Him being the coach will help them close on more players than they ever have, IMO and obviously if he needs to get involved on a significant recruit, he will. It's also a pretty difficult school to get into and it has an extensive alumni with deep pockets. They will be able to recruit financially with any college in the country. Now will BB, I believe they'll be relevant.

I've lived in Charlotte for 29 years, so I have some perspective. UNC is by far the most popular college program among people that live here and most definitely, people originally from here. UNC actually recruits well and sends people to the NFL at a fairly high rate, commensurate with their lack of National success. North Carolina produces massive amounts of high end college players. Also, there's a few towns/cities in South Carolina that also produce quality college players and they're more connected to NC, than SC, in terms of where their family works and are from. Charlotte is about 15 minutes from the SC border, so tens of thousands of people live/move there for the low taxes, etc. These players have largely gone elsewhere because there hasn't been a nationally successful NC program. UNC has a real opportunity to recruit, because the players are right here. Historically, some great ones have already chosen to go there. Now with BB, it should be easy.

I think you make excellent points about Hawes and he can play in the NFL as a blocking TE. I was originally doubtful he can make the 53, but I hadn't considered the possibility of moving on from Gilliam and/or Davidson. With the new kickoff rules, he may be able to play special teams with less distance to run and just using his explosion. He's an interesting prospect but he's definitely going to need to overcome some shortcomings. In the NFL, these men are strong and athletic.

I just don't think you're being fair. Only 3 of the 4 quadrants counted because he didn't qualify. 50% of the 4th quadrant was scored and it was going to seriously reduce his RAS. I don't understand what your issue is with my evaluation of the data and him. I said his explosion is outstanding and he has decent size. The other two factors are poor. You made up your own trifecta, not RAS. Big, strong and explosive are not 3 (tri) of the 4 quadrants. You said his high RAS is an indicator he's athletic in comparison to his peers. It's not,.there's not a problem with my understanding of the data, in which you believe in. You tell me why the data says he's on the top end of athleticism and use all 4 quadrants.

How would low catch percentage tell you he wasn't going deep, because of the yards and ypc? I'm sure there's advanced stata but I don't think that's the indicator. Without looking anything up, couldn't low catch rate and low YPC, also be aligned with bad QB play?

Oh good grief, you too? Nevermind

Why only Beane though? If this was such a blunder, then why couldn't Seattle get more than pic 52 and then they had to weaken that? It's simple, the huge money, obviously. I know you understand this. To act like that's not even a discussion, is childish. You wish we would have, fine. To the bolded, then why would she mention Hoecht and a package, couldn't fetch a second round pick? It's what she does and it weakens her argument.

It would be at least a $60 million dead cap hit. It wouldn't make any sense.

We could get a second for Benford. Do you need a bathroom break?

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is understanding you don't put it in a fruit salad. The Steelers couldn't package Metcalf for a second either.