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Wow, sad state we're in.

But you're contradicting yourself twice. Now you want collusion? Doesn't Mixen getting drafted prove collusion wouldn't happen?

This is actually quite obnoxious. No team would rather collude, than one up each other by taking a player they want. What would they be colluding for? What harm has been done to every team that would make them unite in such an illegal way? What's the lesson? Try and understand why he isn't rated high. How do you know he isn't going to get drafted commensurate with how teams ranked him?

Dan Patrick's answer to Cam Newton, when Cam asked, "why is Cam Newton not on an NFL team right now?" Same logic could apply here

No

I said mastered? It's almost exactly what you said. K, ready? Oliver is a good player.

So he's drafted a good DT, but some were better drafted after him. Carter, drafted at 95 last year, fully undetermined and Sanders an hour ago - and that makes Beane suspect at DT drafting?

Awe c'mon, you ruined it. I was leading him down a path, haha.

I think he's drafted pretty well at DT. Who don't you like?

D line or DT's? I'm trying to follow your saying.

Friend of mine went to SC. Said he's a monster DT and we'll love him. Constantly in the back field and scouts are dumb for not getting him in the first round. He thinks he'll be a 10 year starter.

I'm not saying I don't wish we had a 340 lb guy but if you educated yourself, Beane couldn't have been more clear that's not what they want. If you're surprised it's on you. If you just disagree, I get it.

I understand and certainly don't agree with Intentionally trying to ruin anyone's draft experience. Hence I agreed with the mods just making the call. The choice was to accommodate the broadcast participants. Cool!

It was perfect for you because you were watching Network TV but it wasn't perfect for anyone that was watching Joe Marino - Locked on Bills for example. We knew the pick while you were at commercial, behind, etc. So you I didn't really come to TBD. We just group texted with about a dozen or so folks that are in our friends and family group throughout the country. I mean it's no problem, I just wanted to offer another thought vs they're A holes.

Love this pick

No I get that, and that's why I like the standard/ mods decision. I just think it's potentially unfair to think everyone who knows the pic and wants to then come here, is automatically doing it to be nasty. They could want to just come here and talk about it, because they don't watch broadcast and know about it 4 minutes earlier.

I personally watch the broadcast too but as Augie said, even "broadcast" is different based on streaming, vs satellite, etc. I'm 50, my sons are 20 and 18, we consume information differently. Their buddies are on Twitter too and they all give each other crap about who their teams picked. I don't have a dog in the fight but I disagree with Gonzo and others calling other postera a holes or ignorant because they don't get information through ESPN or the NFL Network. I'm with Simon and Chandler, etc about just setting the standard so there's an understanding of how it will be done on TBD. But the name calling is a bit over the top for me. It's not even tipping pics, it's getting info different is all.

We had him in his prime and he should be on our Wall of Fame.

I don't blame him.

I think Andrew Luck will have an impact.

No, but she is entered in the RC Cola Invitational.

Now beat your version of the Chiefs, Sabalenka.

I disagree, I don't see that as his biggest issue and I really only see him doing that on deep patterns when he hasn't created separation. I'd go so far as to say, he hasn't or the team hasn't used his basketball background enough, especially in the red zone. IMO, he's not athletic enough to run the type of routes that create separation. I.E. the dig route. I've seen him practicing the curl and comeback routes, so I know he's working on his footwork. It's just not fully translating. He may not have a single special trait. I'm thinking work ethic is the most important thing he'll have, for a chance to be a good receiver.

You are saying technique but what troubles me about Keon is that he lacks athleticism in his route running. I think he can get better too, but I'm worried about him being more than just an average NFL receiver. The issue is his footwork. Almost every college wide receiver needs to work on technique because you can't have the same success in the NFL as college without it. For example a speed guy will just rely on that until he improves his technique, if he in fact does improve. Athleticism is a tough thing to acquire. It appears Keon has the "want to", so hope springs eternal.

I see you 10th Mountain.