In hindsight, what’s your worst “hot take” on TSW ever?

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

 

4. Selfishly wanting a dome before finally going to Highmark and seeing with my own eyes what an amazing outdoor experience (albeit cold) it was.

That WC game was good weather.  Cold but little wind or precipitation.

 

If you sat through the ‘08 Giants game to the very end and still prefer open air I’ll take your opinion seriously.

[OldTimer1960]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Hey, it’s the offseason, and since we now actually have a team it’s fun to root for it’s easier to look back at the drought era and reflect.

 

Feel free to come in here and remind us all of your worst takes on the Bills during the drought years.  What were you so sure of that was proven to be absolutely wrong?

 

I’ll start.  I’m a self-professed homer so even through the drought years I was always looking for the silver lining…but that’s what fans do.

 

I defended Chris Kelsay way more than he deserved.

 

 

Oh my, I have 2 horrible ones that come to mind:

1. Didn’t want Patrick Mahommes or Desean Watson in the draft

2. Was very meh on the Josh Allen pick.

 

To this day, I think that Chris Kelsey was good, not great, and his critics were too harsh.

[filthymcnasty08]

"We must draft Colin Kaepernick!"

 

Me circa 2011

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, boy. Many. 

 

I, too, fooled myself about the Rex Ryan hire, though I claim the "talked into that POV by a guy in a Gold Jacket" mulligan for that one

 

I thought Tyrod Taylor could play QB well enough to get us to the playoffs.  I was right about that, kind of - if only the D under Ryan had done their part.

 

I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick could improve his completion %, decrease his INT, and become our franchise QB.    Well, he did both - but not here, and not consistently enough to become The Man somewhere else.

 

You were right about TT.

 

I was ok with the Rex hire too even though I wanted Todd Bowles at the time. I just thought he would be a HC. He did well with the players and game management.  I still don't understand why he dismantled a top 3 defense. I thought he would add some blitz packages to the Schwartz D. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Ethan in Portland

[transient]

Kevin Kolb is gonna tear it up. 
 

Flutie was a politicking POS little weasel… oh, wait. 🤔 Turns out that wasn’t a hot take. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

You were right about TT.

 

I was ok with the Rex hire too even though I wanted Todd Bowles at the time. I just thought he would be a HC. He did well with the players and game management.  I still don't understand why he dismantled a top 3 defense. I thought he would add some blitz packages to the Schwartz D. 

 

I never thought but that Rex would bring in his own D, dismantling our #4 D in the process.   It's the reason I was opposed to the hire.

I was just persuaded he would be more successful in the defensive remodel than he proved.

[LABILLBACKER]

33 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

That WC game was good weather.  Cold but little wind or precipitation.

 

If you sat through the ‘08 Giants game to the very end and still prefer open air I’ll take your opinion seriously.

Gee Doc, I'm sorry it wasn't cold enough to meet your regulatory requirements. You completely missed the point anyway. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

43 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Five letter last name that started with a b.

Had to think about it, but it finally sunk in. 😁

[DrDawkinstein]

I pounded the board here that Von Miller was NEVER going to amount to anything in the NFL since he was too small to generate a pass rush against NFL LTs. That's my worst one.

 

Runner-up goes to wanting Geno Smith in 2013. But in fairness, I was picking out of a complete pile of garbage QB class, and out of all of them, Smith is still in the NFL and even started games last year (yeah, it's a low bar but I'm grasping for anything here, haha).

 

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

We just got the best defensive end in the league, Mario Williams.

 

For his performance the first 2-3 seasons, you weren't wrong. Dude was a force outside, especially in Schwartz's defense. Rex ruined him.

[Special K]

I wish the “Lee Evans is a great number 1 receiver” people would admit they were wrong.

 

As for me:

 

 “Andrew Luck is a lock to win multiple Super Bowls.”

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I pounded the board here that Von out of all of them, Smith is still in the NFL and even started games last year

 

So did Mike Glennon. 

[london_bills]

I said something along the lines of 'Josh doesn't have it'

[Talley56]

Von Miller was being over-hyped

Stafford would not make the Rams a contender

[John from Riverside]

I thought Kelvin Benjamin was going to be a stud for us

[benderbender]

I was elated we got EJ Manuel

Edmunds was a steal 

[Rocky Landing]

I've actually never been wrong on this forum. Perfect record. 100%. A+.

[Wizard]

In no particular order:

 

1. I thought Robert Woods would be not any better after leaving the Bills.

 

2. I thought Bills should get Noah Fant because he would be a generational-type of TE player

 

3. I thought the Bills should move on from McDermott even this year. Still, I do believe he is both very overrated and underrated as a coach by fans on TSW.

 

4. I thought the trade up for Zay Jones was a great move.

 

5. I believed Peterman would be a solid backup and that John Wendling would be a Steve Tasker-type player because of his freakish athleticism.

 

No doubt many more, but these are among the most egregious.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Terrell Owens may sneak us into a wild card.

[Punching Bag]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

1) I was a huge Tom Donahoe fan

 

Tom Donahoe WAS a good hire but being in power changed him and he refused to listen even to some of the people who he brought in.

When fans made him target of their ire rather than going with Levy's motto he decided to try to silence those targeting him.

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Brian Brohm has Tom Brady like qualities.

 

I never felt he had ability to be the GOAT Cheater but maybe that is just me.

[hondo in seattle]

5 hours ago, eball said:

 

 

I wanted Rob Johnson to play over Flutie.

I was excited when Marv was brought back as GM and thought he would right the ship.

I didn’t think Russ Brandon was a tool.

I blamed Overdorf for Ralph’s cheapness.

I defended Chris Kelsay way more than he deserved.

I loved the trade up to draft Sammy Watkins.

I fooled myself into thinking Rex Ryan was a good hire.

 

 

 

 

 

The bolded ones are mine.  

 

I even read Collision Low Crossers - the book about the Jets - and put the book down thinking Rex was much smarter and wiser than his buffoonish reputation. 

 

I was wrong.  

 

 

 

3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

We drafted the wrong Josh. 

 

Too few people willing to own up to that one!

Edited February 26, 2022 by hondo in seattle

[RaoulDuke79]

5 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

The bolded ones are mine.  

 

I even read Collision Low Crossers - the book about the Jets - and put the book down thinking Rex was much smarter and wiser than his buffoonish reputation. 

 

I was wrong.  

 

 

 

 

Too few people willing to own up to that one!

Oh *****....I thought it was the worst hot take. Not my own hot take. 

[Jerry Jabber]

Thought Trent Edwards was going to be a great QB, especially since he was recommended by Bill Walsh.

 

Thought Marv Levy was setting the Bills up for long term success when he was GM.

 

Thought Buddy Nix was a good GM after signing Mario Williams.

[Malazan]

6 hours ago, eball said:

Hey, it’s the offseason, and since we now actually have a team it’s fun to root for it’s easier to look back at the drought era and reflect.

 

Feel free to come in here and remind us all of your worst takes on the Bills during the drought years.  What were you so sure of that was proven to be absolutely wrong?

 

I’ll start.  I’m a self-professed homer so even through the drought years I was always looking for the silver lining…but that’s what fans do.

 

Here are a few I’m not particularly proud of:

 

I wanted Rob Johnson to play over Flutie.

I was excited when Marv was brought back as GM and thought he would right the ship.

I didn’t think Russ Brandon was a tool.

I blamed Overdorf for Ralph’s cheapness.

I defended Chris Kelsay way more than he deserved.

I loved the trade up to draft Sammy Watkins.

I fooled myself into thinking Rex Ryan was a good hire.

 

Those are the big ones.  I’ve rooted for sub-par players but I think that’s just fandom.

 

What say you?

 

TSW is bastion of intelligent football talk. 

[WhoTom]

I wasn't on TSW back then, but I thought JP Losman would become our franchise QB.

 

[Captain_Quint]

I was in the "Don't pay Jason Peters" camp. And then he turned out to be a generational talent at LT. 

 

But being fair, who was he really protecting in Buffalo? Losman? Brian Brohm? 

[Mr. WEO]

25 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

I was in the "Don't pay Jason Peters" camp. And then he turned out to be a generational talent at LT. 

 

But being fair, who was he really protecting in Buffalo? Losman? Brian Brohm? 

 

Vick?  Foles? Sanchez? Bradford? Wentz?

[Patrick Duffy]

Wonder if back in the day anyone posted that "Vince Young will be starting QB and take us to the promise land" Lol

[Punching Bag]

I think the hottest take was trading our starting DE for John Skelton, Arizona's backup QB. 

There was a poll and it was overwhelming in favor for it.

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

I was probably way too optimistic about Trent Edwards being the long term answer at QB.

I was in that bandwagon

[SoCal Deek]

Mine? “Thirteen seconds….we got this!”

[BillsfaninChicago]

I also once made the argument that a team didn’t need an elite quarterback to win a super bowl just a top defense. I cited the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Buccaneers as proof. Those were obviously the exceptions and not the rule. I also didn’t realize the Brady effect where the league was going to make so much as farting 3 feet from a QB a penalty.

[newcam2012]

Saying Allen regressed early in the season. Questioning his ability. 

[Doc Brown]

Watkins would break all the Bills WR records.

 

Merriman was a steal in free agency.

 

Shady would be a locker room cancer.

 

Trump would buy the Bills and move them to Vegas.

 

Wanted Hue Jackson to replace Marrone.

 

 

 

[folz]

Despite a close friend who watches a lot college football (he's a Florida fan), telling me over and over that E.J. was not a good QB, I still watched the 2013 draft and said "E. J. is a star. He has the 'it' factor." 

[Beerball]

Said that Von Miller would never hold up in the NFL and would be a bust.

[Patrick Duffy]

I am happy to say I did NOT make this statement in 2018, but quite a few did and it's a very familiar one to all of us.."Damn we picked the wrong Josh", also "idiot FO still clueless when picking a QB" LOL

 

I haven't read all the thread so this may have been mentioned already

 

[MJS]

I wanted Matt Barkley back in whatever year's draft that was. Funny he later became our backup.

 

I wanted Josh Rosen. I was vocal against Josh Allen before we picked him.

 

I talked myself into the Rex Ryan hire, even though I hated it at first. I should have stayed with my original opinion.

56 minutes ago, Beerball said:

 

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by MJS

[MJS]

6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

For his performance the first 2-3 seasons, you weren't wrong. Dude was a force outside, especially in Schwartz's defense. Rex ruined him.

Yeah, I'm not sure why people are mentioning Mario Williams. He was elite in Buffalo. He is also the last elite pass rusher we had. Too bad we don't have a guy like that now. He really hated playing for Rex Ryan, and who can blame him?

[jimmy10]

I don’t know if it was exactly a hot take, but at the time I thought Rex just needed to settle in and would be a good coach for us. 

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

 

Wanted Hue Jackson to replace Marrone.

 

 

I was on that train too. My history on wanting coaches was, until the last cycle, not great. 

 

I wanted Shanahan Snr when we hired Chan (he bombed out in Washington);

 

I wanted Lovie Smith when we hired Marrone (he bombed out in Tampa);

 

I wanted Hue when we hired Rex (he bombed out in Cleveland);

 

However, I was always anti Rex and by the London game his first year I wanted him fired. I decided that this going for coaches on the 2nd time around was not the answer so I started looking at coordinators around the NFL. Who was producing results? Who was running modern schemes? I narrowed it down to about half a dozen names and then I went to the websites of those teams and started watching video of them in pressers and in bits for the team media channels. 

 

My conclusion was we should make Rex Ryan a one and done coach and hire the Panthers Defensive Coordinator, one Sean McDermott. I had to wait a year, but it was worth it.