DBilz2500 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? 13 1 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 We're just actually paying attention to him this season 6 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He does look fresher and faster. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? I agree. Seems more active, moving better, even showing some pass rush or at least pocket movement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I feel like he's the same. I've watched some of 2019 on Gamepass. He's clearly not the disappointment that so many fans wanted to label him as. I forgot Beasley used to wear number 10... 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He looks a lot better than last year. It was like he was invisible last, he'smuch more of an impact this season and it isn't even close. 4 2 1 32 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Always been good 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I think the difference was we expected star to eat up blocks and free some guys up (which he does) but we are also seeing he can make a play or two when he’s one on one. We’ve been sending some blitzes and he’s beating his 1 on 1 matchups and that’s a great sign. I can’t recall many times in previous years where he’s in the backfield often, he seems to be there this year so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He made an impact on short yardage plays Sunday. The Washington Oline wasn't getting any push at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, without a drought said: He looks a lot better than last year. It was like he was invisible last, he'smuch more of an impact this season and it isn't even close. I think it would be hard for Doug marrone to not fit at least 6 "obviously" in this reply. Edited September 28, 2021 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Definitely looks faster, which is not a surprise because he is clearly a little leaner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, LeGOATski said: He's clearly not the disappointment that so many fans wanted to label him as. Edmunds obviously took that part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, without a drought said: He looks a lot better than last year. It was like he was invisible last, he'smuch more of an impact this season and it isn't even close. I agree. You forgot that he opted out last year. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I feel like this thread is missing that “expert” opinion we all crave. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I feel like he's the same. I've watched some of 2019 on Gamepass. He's clearly not the disappointment that so many fans wanted to label him as. I forgot Beasley used to wear number 10... I made many a post frustrated with the throwaway nature many fans here had for him. Part of the reason (to some) that he is a “surprise” is obviously because he didn’t play last year. There seems to be some difficultly for some in correlating the mediocre nature of our run defense for a good chunk of last year with…oh yeah, that guy not being here that made our defense better that many around here wanted to get rid of. That and the 3/4s of TSW that thought Milano wasn’t worth keeping for the money (I was so on board with the 8 figures per year for him long before they re-signed him), or the “always hurt” or the utterly ridiculous nature of the “he’s just not that good” were simply consternating given the optics of how good he was and how much better we were with him on the field. Makes me, unfortunately, think that a good number of TSW members are the remnants of the Sabres’ “let’s run Donald Audette and Ray Shepherd out of town!” crew. Edited September 28, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranded in Boston Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I made many a post frustrated with the throwaway nature many fans here had for him. Part of the reason (to some) that he is a “surprise” is obviously because he didn’t play last year. There seems to be some difficultly for some in correlating the mediocre nature of our run defense for a good chunk of last year with…oh yeah, that guy not being here that made our defense better that many around here wanted to get rid of. That and the 3/4s of TSW that thought Milano wasn’t worth keeping for the money (I was so on board with the 8 figures per year for him long before they re-signed him), or the “always hurt” or the utterly ridiculous nature of the “he’s just not that good” we’re simply consternating given the optics of how good he was and how much better we were with him on the field. Makes me, unfortunately, think that a good number of TSW members are the remnants of the Sabres’ “let’s run Donald Audette and Ray Shepherd out of town!” crew. Aw, did you have to bring up Ray Sheppard? It only took me 30 years to forget that one ... 😫 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BLUES Brothers Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I made many a post frustrated with the throwaway nature many fans here had for him. Part of the reason (to some) that he is a “surprise” is obviously because he didn’t play last year. There seems to be some difficultly for some in correlating the mediocre nature of our run defense for a good chunk of last year with…oh yeah, that guy not being here that made our defense better that many around here wanted to get rid of. That and the 3/4s of TSW that thought Milano wasn’t worth keeping for the money (I was so on board with the 8 figures per year for him long before they re-signed him), or the “always hurt” or the utterly ridiculous nature of the “he’s just not that good” we’re simply consternating given the optics of how good he was and how much better we were with him on the field. Good take on Star and since you were onto Milano potential and ability - what is your take of Edmunds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, eball said: I feel like this thread is missing that “expert” opinion we all crave. Count on @newcam2012 to stop by and crap all over the thread🤦♂️ Edited September 28, 2021 by Cantankeous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, The BLUES Brothers said: Good take on Star and since you were onto Milano potential and ability - what is your take of Edmunds? Btw, please don’t take my rant above as any sort of acumen whatsoever as I am still pretty much a moron. It was just the way I felt and I truly couldn’t see what others were watching. I really like Edmunds, but when he’s not on the field we are not as good, but not as bad off, as we are without Milano. And to be clear Star makes a difference for both of them. If they can sign him for similar Milano money, great and if they think it works cap wise because it definitely works on the field. However, If he goes much above that, which he may, I am worried about him sticking around. edit: additionally, though, anyone here completely happy with keeping Butler? Edited September 28, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 All I know is what my eyes see watching a play with poor camera angles. Angles that only track the position of the ball. Teams are not running up the middle on the Bills and getting routinely to the LBs and Safeties. Is that Star or is it a combination of Star and Oliver playing better? I think it is both. I strongly suspect Weeks 5 and 6 will answer this definitively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Stranded in Boston said: Aw, did you have to bring up Ray Sheppard? It only took me 30 years to forget that one ... 😫 please, Stranded, you make it sound unreasonable that after 60 goals and 48 assists in his first two seasons it was completely logical to Sabres brain trust to dump him after 6 points in 18 games in year 3. only to then see him average about 34 goals a year for the next 6 seasons. Edited September 28, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2019 D with star good. 2020 D without star not so good 2021 D with star good. Thats all I need to know. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: 2019 D with star good. 2020 D without star not so good 2021 D with star good. Thats all I need to know. I'm sure there's a lot of other factors but yeah, that's exactly how it looks to me On that play he chased Heineke out of bounds he looked positively quick. There's some value in a guy who can both clog the middle and also chase an athletic QB out of bounds 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? I agree on him looking better. It might be the talent around him on the DL being more improved too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? He's making an impact on run defense and absolutely looks quicker. Maybe Beane knew something when he didn't pull the trigger on bringing in a FA tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? He makes a big difference in how they can rotate on the DL. As he doesn’t have a true backup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: He's making an impact on run defense and absolutely looks quicker. Maybe Beane knew something when he didn't pull the trigger on bringing in a FA tackle. Yeah, he knew he still had to pay Star and couldn’t get out of it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, he knew he still had to pay Star and couldn’t get out of it. Forgot about that part of it. They were tight with the cap and any better options were too pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Well if one ignores the “he sucks” poster, one finds that he does his job, but “those” poster who feel he should be getting lots sacks every season will always b itch about him and their other favs on the team, those are the more comical posters, they are alway right no matter what, just ask them. After a year out, getting himself fully healthy and rested, he is performing as expected. Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Snap Counts so far for DT. Edited September 28, 2021 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I still think he's an overpaid JAG but I've never thought he was terrible or a detriment to have on the field. My opinion hasn't changed. We might need to pump the brakes on the DEF a little bit. We have yet to play a good, or even average, offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I did a double take when he chased Heineken oob on that "sack." He looked legitimately quick chasing him down and I was shocked when I realized it was Star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Hebert19 said: 2019 D with star good. 2020 D without star not so good 2021 D with star good. Thats all I need to know. 2020 our best linebacker missed a ton of time and we had to play Oliver at 1T a huge chunk bc no one else was competent. Star isn’t playing bad this year, but he gone next year no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Star has always been a very good part of our defense. Stat sheet analysis disagree because they have no idea of what his role or actual value to this defense is. But every single player in that front 7 and our coaches absolutely appreciate and treasure Star's value to the team up front. The people who spent all this time whining about him and wanting him "gone" are just puzzling to me. Its like they ignore everything the coaching staff and players say about him that makes our defense better and just see if he got any sacks or something. TBH...the Edmunds thread is starting to remind me a LOT of the Star complaining too. Its like they finally paid attention to Star the last 2 weeks and realized they cant pick on him anymore and decided the new whipping boy is going to be Edmunds and his imaginary contract that isn't happening yet until 2023. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 11 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? Looks healthy and his space eating makes the entire D better. He is getting off the ball quick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I still think he's an overpaid JAG but I've never thought he was terrible or a detriment to have on the field. My opinion hasn't changed. We might need to pump the brakes on the DEF a little bit. We have yet to play a good, or even average, offense. Yup. $32M for 3 seasons of JAG level play. That is rough. I wouldn’t care if he was making $2M-$3M a season, but he’s getting paid to make a difference (in a good way) and he’s a long way from that. He has $2M of his 2022 salary guaranteed so he will probably be on the team next season too. At least it’s only $6.5M in new money so he will be less overpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Looks healthy and his space eating makes the entire D better. He is getting off the ball quick too. I am a Star detractor. for the past season and a half. But this year, when I look at him rushing, Not only is he getting push every time, but it seems like if he's 1-v-1 he tries to lean toward another O-lineman to actually invite the double-team. Which I love love love. Star is scoring points with me at a fast rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Star has definitely made a positive impact on the defense. He was missed in 2020 for sure. He also looks to be making more disruptive plays than he did in 2019 being leaner and faster. He is a component of the teams defensive improvement. Glad that he is back and performing well. He definitely plays a valuable role on the defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I agree. You forgot that he opted out last year. Did he really forget, though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He's in better shape than he's been in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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