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Mahomes is clearly not putting in enough work in the offseason and doesn't take football seriously

After the Diggs trade I hesitate to call any Bills contract 'untradeable'....but Milano is untradeable. He has a 12.4mm active cap hit for the 2024 season. That turns into 25.2mm dead cap if we trade him prior to June 1st. It's 7.9mm dead cap in 2024 and 17.3mm dead cap in 2025 if it's a post June 1st trade. I think we'd need at least a 1st rd pick to make a Milano trade feasible, and what GM in their right mind is offering a 1st for a 29 year old LB coming off a major injury?

I'm just thankful its not the Bills. That trip to London last year de-railed the season

That's literally the argument you made against Allen..... unless you were just pointing out an argument without believing it? The tone of your post suggested to me that you thought Allen is not working hard in the offseason. Apologies if I misunderstood Mahomes has been the best QB in the league since 2018 and Allen has been the 2nd best since 2020. Those were also their best individual seasons. It's technically true to say they haven't improved since those seasons, but it's an incredibly disingenuous argument to make.

Yes he has regressed since then. That's his only season that is in the top 5 for best seasons by a QB in NFL history. Mahomes could never improve on that season and still have the greatest career of all time. Josh could never improve on his 2020 season and still be a HOF QB. That's why the statement that Josh hasn't improved on his 2020 season is asinine.

Who needs facts and stats when you can 'just watch'? Mahomes 2018 season is on a very short list for best season by any QB in NFL history. The fact (yes, fact) that he hasn't improved on that season doesn't mean that he's lazy in the offseason or doesn't watch enough film. It just means he set the bar so high it's almost impossible to improve on it. Josh's play has been about the same for 4 years in a row now. When you're one of the 3 best QBs in the league playing about the same not improving is still a VERY GOOD thing. Arguing otherwise and trying to present that as proof that Josh doesn't put in the off-field work is just silly.

Mahomes stats don't back that up at all. In fact you could say he's regressed since 2018 rather than just plateaued.

I'll agree that Josh hasn't improved since 2020, but that's like saying Mahomes hasn't improved since 2018. These guys are at the peak of the profession. There's not really anywhere to go from there. Whatever Josh is doing is working and it's more than good enough to win a SB

Whitlock is less credible than the average TBD poster. Whitlock admitted to making up a story about Diggs wanting out of Buffalo to live in a bigger/better city (better night life, better strip clubs, etc.). He then pivots and says the REAL reason Diggs wants out is because everybody on the team knows that Allen doesn't have that dog in him. That he doesn't care about the game or prepare the way other top QBs do. That everyone in the Bills lockerroom (players/coaches) know this and are ok with letting Josh skate by on pure talent. https://www.theherdnow.com/content/2023-09-01-jason-whitlock-the-real-reason-stefon-diggs-wants-to-abandon-josh-allen/ What was the story about Keenum and Barkley teasing Allen over him not watching film? I don't remember that one and would like to read up on it. Can't find anything online. Do you have a link for the McAfee quote? As I remember it Josh said he doesn't put a ton of stock into film study because once he learns a defenses tendencies, they'll switch it up and try and outsmart each other. Turns into a "knowing that you know, that i know, that you know, I'll do THIS instead" and that Josh would rather just play organically.

Can you provide a link to a source for these "whispers" from a player or coach on the Bills? I've yet to see one myself, but always willing to look at new data points. I couldn't care less what random analysts post on twitter with regards to Josh's offseason preparation when they have as much first hand knowledge as I do (exactly none).

Has there been even a whisper of resentment towards Josh Allen other than from Diggs? And I will stress the word whisper as Diggs has never said anything negative about Allen in public. Of those 2 guys only 1 of them spends every February and March tweeting cryptic ***** intended to stir up drama. Of those 2 guys only 1 of them skipped voluntary OTAs in 2023 and had the head coach "very concerned".

How is Marrone going 9-7 in 2014 with Kyle Orton underachieving? Orton was a low end starter (at best) on his very last legs. We had a top 5 defense and a bottom 10 offense that year. Rex came in and the offense got a lot better while the defense got a lot worse, but the DEF was not close to the bottom of the league under Rex. In 2015 the Bills DEF was 15th in points allowed, 19th in total yards, 19th in passing yards, and 16th in rushing. In 2016 the Bills DEF was 16th in points, 19th in total yards, 6th in passing yards, and 29th in rushing yards. Rex got fired before the season ended because he refused to bench Tyrod over an injury guarantee. What has McD achieved without a top 3 QB? 25-23 regular season and 0-2 in the playoffs. That's really so different from Rex going 15-16? You give a mediocre jackass like Rex a QB like Josh Allen, and yes, I think we'd have a SB by now.

Holy hyperbole batman! Rex was average-ish as a coach here. Not a disaster. He took over for a team that had been 9-7 and 6-10 under the previous coach and proceeded to go 8-8 and 7-8. He did this with Tyrod Taylor as his QB. A guy that's been nothing more than a competent backup for the rest of his career. Rex's biggest mistake was setting expectations as high as he did. As far as results go, Rex was a mediocre coach that got mediocre results from a mediocre roster. Let's not pretend like he was taking over the 2009 Colts.

Rex was 15-16 in his 2 seasons here (fired going into the final game of 2016) McD was 15-17 his first 2 seasons I think there's dozens of coaches that would've won a SB by now with Josh Allen. I'd even put Rex on that list

Yup, a pregnant woman that he had relations with was murdered right before the draft. Police interviewed him but never considered him a suspect.

Diggs has 4 years left on his contract.... this really isn't a rental situation. HOU can cut/trade him at any time with no dead cap

65 mil when Tre White hits the books after June 1st. A catastrophic amount of dead cap largely from the decision to give Diggs a monster extension and then trade him.

I gave it a D, and that's just grading the trade in a vacuum and not looking at the dead cap from the ludicrous extension. Diggs cooled off in the 2nd half of the season, but he still finished 13th in yards and 8th in TDs for the league. That's a really good season and he's had 4 straight really good seasons for the Bills. There's no reason to think his production will fall off a cliff, although it's fair to say he doesn't have much time left as an elite WR. Diggs+ 5th + 6th for a 2nd is a really poor return. If you net the picks we essentially traded Diggs for a 3rd. Trading a bona fide WR1 for a 3rd rd pick is not good value.

Trading Diggs for such a small return makes that extension from last season look even worse in hindsight. But sure, Beane's a wizard

Hate to say it, but yes. There's no good HC candidates still available.

Nope 60 mil in dead cap for the coming season? It's now a major rebuild.

Peyton Manning first playoff loss to Patriots: 23/47 for 237 yards 1 TD 4 INTs (FWIW josh has 4 career postseason ints) 2nd playoff loss to Patriots: 27/42 for 238 yards 0 TD 1 INT The Colts lost those games 24-14 and 20-3. Peyton's defense put up respectable games, but he was TERRIBLE in those losses. There's also a long list of bad playoff games by Manning against teams other than the Patriots. I'd say either of those games are significantly worse than Josh's worst postseason game.

I didn't realize that Allen played defense against Mahomes and allowed such ridiculous numbers. Thanks for letting us know that it's really Allens fault and the Bills defense is not responsible.

Not what I'd call taking ownership

Speaking for myself, I lost respect for him when he failed to take any ownership of the 13 second meltdown.