No_Matter_What Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I wanted to start this thread last week and forgot to. Now after Dolphins game when the dude balled again it becomes even more interesting. Taron Johnson is UFA after this season, but I guess we can agree that he is worth keeping. Do you guys think it is possible that Beane tries to extend him now? If so, how much he can get? Or do you think talks will start after season? I am not sure what is Beane's history with respect to midseason extensions. And at what point do you think Bills will say that he is asking too much, let him go and will try to find someone similar late in the draft? I am no expert but I would assume that extending him now should be cheaper since it would give him some guaranteed money which provides him some security in case he gets injured later this season. So I'd try to do it now provided he can be kept for reasonable money (which I am not sure how much it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Interesting topic. I dont think he is seen as an outside CB so the market will not be crazy for his services. Anyone know of recent contracts for nickel dbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 10 years 125 million 1 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I like Taron, he’s a gamer. His value will be much higher to us than across the league imo. I think we would see another test the market situation where Beane has a value but will let Taron test the waters to see what he can get elsewhere. I would expect he won’t be back. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I think they will bet on replacing him in the draft… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 No point in negotiating; he'll just force them to turnover the money anyway....... 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I wanted to start this thread last week and forgot to. Now after Dolphins game when the dude balled again it becomes even more interesting. Taron Johnson is UFA after this season, but I guess we can agree that he is worth keeping. Do you guys think it is possible that Beane tries to extend him now? If so, how much he can get? Or do you think talks will start after season? I am not sure what is Beane's history with respect to midseason extensions. And at what point do you think Bills will say that he is asking too much, let him go and will try to find someone similar late in the draft? I am no expert but I would assume that extending him now should be cheaper since it would give him some guaranteed money which provides him some security in case he gets injured later this season. So I'd try to do it now provided he can be kept for reasonable money (which I am not sure how much it is). Depends on how much, we have to careful on how much you pay non-starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 We won’t be able to pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I'd say no! When you look at Bills team good likelihood they draft a CB next year fairly high as not too many other positions are in need. O-Line and LB, but probably not starters so can go a little lower. If they draft a CB in the 1st round, then guys like Wallace and Jackson both demote a step so one of them could fill that role. As also stated not likely he'll get big $$'s elsewhere and Bills could always sign a FA too for that role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 He’s going to be tough to bring back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I don't know if I'd want to pay him a lot. He's had big plays but he's not much more than replacement level when you look at his full tenure with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I like Taron, he’s a gamer. His value will be much higher to us than across the league imo. I think we would see another test the market situation where Beane has a value but will let Taron test the waters to see what he can get elsewhere. I would expect he won’t be back. Spot on. A lot like Wallace. I wouldn't rush into a contract though. Like many players he plays better with a lead and teams are forced to pass. He's physical but does get toasted quite often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Like to keep him. Gets better and better. He's a baller. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Next year, from a different team. 6M per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: 10 years 125 million Don't be cheap the market is clearly 125.2 million for his services. Also you didn't guarantee 120M of it. Be realistic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 McDermott's D needs a NCB like Taron. He will sign a 3 year contract for $12M+. I see him as the biggest priority FA next year. They easily got the cap for that and even a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 One of those guys you hate to lose but....lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Depends on how much, we have to careful on how much you pay non-starters In our defense 3rd CB is a starter. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 ASAP, and a foot. (TWSS) 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 He has stood out positively lately but there have been long stretches where he has been beaten like a rented mule. I'm 50/50 on the fence with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I think Taron’s positional play is more impactful than CB2 currently. Taron is so physical on the line, and has played well in coverage. really liked his game over the last year and I hope we can bring him back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Cray51 said: I think Taron’s positional play is more impactful than CB2 currently. Taron is so physical on the line, and has played well in coverage. really liked his game over the last year and I hope we can bring him back Interestingly when Levi went out they targeted White a lot more. I know he was covering their best WR but usually QBs target CBs with less experience or MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Won’t he be a RFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 He is very good at what we ask him to do but he is not a CB1. I bet we give him the round 2 contract offer for an RFA when it is time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Won’t he be a RFA? No. He has played out his rookie contract. He will be a UFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Great slot corners can make $10-$12M. You can expect 4 for $40ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I wish we’d have extended him in the off-season but maybe he’s playing extra motivated because we didn’t. He is a freaking baller. We saw flashes from year one but he’s getting sharper and sharper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Bruffalo said: I don't know if I'd want to pay him a lot. He's had big plays but he's not much more than replacement level when you look at his full tenure with the Bills. His full tenure isn't relevant. It's the type of player he is now and after the first 2 games, he's been very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I guess it depends on what the market turns out being for him. I'm sure Beane will have a number and not want to go over it, and if he walks, he walks. But he isn't a MUST re-sign. Not the kind of guy you get in a bidding war for. But he might re-sign with a team friendly deal because he likes being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I guess it depends on what the market turns out being for him. I'm sure Beane will have a number and not want to go over it, and if he walks, he walks. But he isn't a MUST re-sign. Not the kind of guy you get in a bidding war for. But he might re-sign with a team friendly deal because he likes being here. I get that slot corner isn’t a “must sign” impact position like QB but guys like Taron that play with those instincts and aggression are hard to come by. He is vicious. And maybe McD and Frazier can coach up guys like the cavalcade of DBs that Belichick has done over the years, but Taron just works in this system and he plays hard. At the same time we have seen a lot of these guys take bigger money with other teams only to fizzle out because the system made them. Who knows what happens here. All told I think you’re right. We will make an offer but we aren’t going to break the bank. If Milano, Poyer, Wallace are any guide we might be able to keep him on that team-friendly deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Big C said: I get that slot corner isn’t a “must sign” impact position like QB but guys like Taron that play with those instincts and aggression are hard to come by. He is vicious. And maybe McD and Frazier can coach up guys like the cavalcade of DBs that Belichick has done over the years, but Taron just works in this system and he plays hard. At the same time we have seen a lot of these guys take bigger money with other teams only to fizzle out because the system made them. Who knows what happens here. All told I think you’re right. We will make an offer but we aren’t going to break the bank. If Milano, Poyer, Wallace are any guide we might be able to keep him on that team-friendly deal. It's not the position for me as much as the player. I like Taron Johnson, a lot actually, but he has definately had some consistency issues over the years and also durability issues. And I trust Sean McDermott to identify players to replace him if he walks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Availability is probably his biggest risk, though he does have off games. Love his physicality and think his coverage skills have continued to get better with time in the league. No idea about his market value so I choose to have blind faith that Beane gets it done for a reasonable contract, somehow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Wouldn’t usually be saying this for a straight nickel corner but yeah resign him. The guy hits 50lbs above his weight. Taron’s a freight train if you give him 5 yards of windup. Don’t know how he does it, but I like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Love Taron but no way he’s back next year. Gotta find his replacement through the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Depends on how much, we have to careful on how much you pay non-starters Taron is a starter. Nickel is our base defense. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 11:01 PM, JoPoy88 said: Wouldn’t usually be saying this for a straight nickel corner but yeah resign him. The guy hits 50lbs above his weight. Taron’s a freight train if you give him 5 yards of windup. Don’t know how he does it, but I like it. I like that about him too. Although his aggressive play also has gotten him injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Taron Johnson is super underrated... He does so many things well When he gets hurt... The bills literally use 3 players to replace him Idk if we can resign him... Some team will offer him a fairly fat contact for a slot corner. Which is a starting position in McDermott's defense 3 year 30 million.. 22 guaranteed Gives him an opportunity for another contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I have some experience in this because I just negotiated with him in Madden….6 years, 84 million and a 40 million dollar signing bonus. Had to release Diggs and Allen to get there but well worth it to have my shutdown nickel corner. Beane’s not the only Wizard around these parts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Won't resign him. Will cost too much and have contract money that needs to be paid for more important players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I actually think they do re-sign him for a big chunk of change. With what the Ravens have done with Marlon Hunphrey, the slot CB is becoming a really important position in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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