Dr. K Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I get it that the Chiefs are the favorites in the AFC, and probably should be. But they also went into the Super Bowl favored to win. I said before the game that they would lose, and lose by double figures. Why? If you look at their play last season, especially in the second half of the season, they barely squeaked out eight of their wins. They lost to the Raiders and Chargers, and in other games: beat the Chargers by 3 in OT beat the Panthers by 2 beat the Raiders by 4 beat the Bucks by 3 beat the Broncos by 6 beat the Dolphins by 6 beat the Saints by 3 beat the Falcons by 3 A good team will win many close games, but when a team wins that many games by less than a touchdown you can expect a regression to the mean. Despite Mahomes and Kelce and Hill, and the fact they beat the Bills twice last year, I don't see any reason the Bills should be quaking in their boots about playing them. I predict the Chiefs will have a fall off this season and would not be at all surprised if they fail to make the playoffs. They lived on the edge last season and when you do that, you are in danger of falling off. 5 1 10 1 4 3 10 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Yet they killed the Bills. What does that make us? 11 3 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 They played bored the second half of last season and were not at their best and they did struggle to turn it on fully in the playoffs. There is no way they will miss the postseason. That said their new look offensive line still needs time to gel. Orlando Brown is still adjusting to more deep drops than he was used to in Baltimore and Lucas Niang is struggling a bit at right tackle. On the flip side Trey Smith at right guard who they took after he slid to round 6 because of injuries has been one of their stars of camp and had a solid pre-season debut. At least on the interior their oline is going to be upgraded. 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I hope you are right but sad to say, great teams win close games, the NFL is about parity. The Chiefs owned the Bills in the championship game. The beat us at the line of scrimmage. Lets hope our O Line improves and we can actually run the ball and our D Line shows up with the additions, we revert back to a top 5 defense, then we can handle the chiefs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Yet they killed the Bills. What does that make us? The 2nd best team in the AFC until proven otherwise. 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bangarang Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 This is worse than the thread that ranked edge rushers after one preseason game. 7 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 how long until the season starts? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Mahomes has weak toes I have slow ears, what did he say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: how long until the season starts? Too long 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dr. K said: beat the Chargers beat the Panthers beat the Raiders beat the Bucks beat the Broncos beat the Dolphins beat the Saints beat the Falcons All that matters. A win is a win. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Without Zack Ertz the Bills will lose Can somebody write a thread about this ? . Edited August 17, 2021 by HOUSE 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I hope you are right but sad to say, great teams win close games, the NFL is about parity. The Chiefs owned the Bills in the championship game. The beat us at the line of scrimmage. Lets hope our O Line improves and we can actually run the ball and our D Line shows up with the additions, we revert back to a top 5 defense, then we can handle the chiefs. I don't disagree--the Chiefs beat the Bills badly in the title game. It was their best performance in the last three months of their season. They went 8-0 in one-score games in 2020. So maybe they'll just blow everybody out this season, but I doubt it. They won't go 8-0 in one-score games again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 the unbiased peter king article from the camp visit summed it well... in both games last season, the bills played the chiefs competetively for the first half, but were outscored and really outclassed in the second half of each, so lets see if we closed the gap as the chiefs worked as well to improve their O line and like most teams had a good draft...who improved more, who is avoiding injuries, etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: the unbiased peter king article from the camp visit summed it well... in both games last season, the bills played the chiefs competetively for the first half, but were outscored and really outclassed in the second half of each, so lets see if we closed the gap as the chiefs worked as well to improve their O line and like most teams had a good draft...who improved more, who is avoiding injuries, etc the challenge for all the top AFC teams is being able to match up with KC's offense. You need speed cover guys and you need to get pressure preferably with 4. if you cant get pressure with 4 mahomes will sit back and eventually find someone. if you have to blitz and rely on your cover guys ... do you have the players to match up one on one ? if not you are toast... Edited August 17, 2021 by snowbelt_subie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Paper or Real. They're still Tigers until proven otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Unless we get a ring they’re better than us. It’s that simple. You can’t even have a debate. They’ve beat us down head to head. Doesn’t matter who they lose to. Doesn’t matter Tampa stomped them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, snowbelt_subie said: the challenge for all the top AFC teams is being able to match up with KC's offense. You need speed cover guys and you need to get pressure preferably with 4. if you cant get pressure with 4 mahomes will sit back and eventually find someone. if you have to blitz and rely on your cover guys ... do you have the players to match up ? if not you are toast... If they are so invincible, how the hell did eight teams--including the Panthers and Falcons--come within a touchdown of beating them? Not to mention the two teams that did beat them, by 12 and 17 points in the regular season. And then they lost the Super Bowl by 22 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, teef said: Hahaha. What was on the laptop? Pics of Zach Ertz? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 All this thread needed was a “hear me out.” 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Hahaha. What was on the laptop? Pics of Zach Ertz? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 “Nobody in the AFC can hang with the chiefs. We obviously need to pencil them in for their 3rd straight Super Bowl even though only 2 other teams in the history of the league have done it. In fact they’ll probably make the next 4 or 5 in a row. Screw the odds and historical trends. They are an absolute juggernaut” -Every media outlet/member under the sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dr. K said: If they are so invincible, how the hell did eight teams--including the Panthers and Falcons--come within a touchdown of beating them? Not to mention the two teams that did beat them, by 12 and 17 points in the regular season. And then they lost the Super Bowl by 22 points. bro they were on cruise control in the regular season when you are that good you just turn it on when you need a drive those teams never had a chance ... they went 13-1 mahomes rested the last game. the NFL is about matchups . like i said TB had pressure with 4 and Speed everywhere in the back 7 . Edited August 17, 2021 by snowbelt_subie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I get it that the Chiefs are the favorites in the AFC, and probably should be. But they also went into the Super Bowl favored to win. I said before the game that they would lose, and lose by double figures. Why? If you looked at their OL, you would realize that all of their starting offensive lineman we’re injured and had a bunch of bums out there blocking for Mahomes. Fixed Edited August 17, 2021 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I get it that the Chiefs are the favorites in the AFC, and probably should be. But they also went into the Super Bowl favored to win. I said before the game that they would lose, and lose by double figures. Why? If you look at their play last season, especially in the second half of the season, they barely squeaked out eight of their wins. They lost to the Raiders and Chargers, and in other games: beat the Chargers by 3 in OT beat the Panthers by 2 beat the Raiders by 4 beat the Bucks by 3 beat the Broncos by 6 beat the Dolphins by 6 beat the Saints by 3 beat the Falcons by 3 A good team will win many close games, but when a team wins that many games by less than a touchdown you can expect a regression to the mean. Despite Mahomes and Kelce and Hill, and the fact they beat the Bills twice last year, I don't see any reason the Bills should be quaking in their boots about playing them. I predict the Chiefs will have a fall off this season and would not be at all surprised if they fail to make the playoffs. They lived on the edge last season and when you do that, you are in danger of falling off. id be more curious how they won those. Example - like 5 years ago Atlanta had similar with an insane turnover differential that didn’t tie back to anything meaningful (ie pressure) but mostly lucky bounces. They fell off a cliff predictably. Hell, our own fitz magic season was similar with outcomes not matching underlying indicators that first month. Without doing a deep dive and just a gut reaction on a couple games I watched, I didn’t get that feeling from the chiefs last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I hope you are right but sad to say, great teams win close games, the NFL is about parity. The Chiefs owned the Bills in the championship game. The beat us at the line of scrimmage. Lets hope our O Line improves and we can actually run the ball and our D Line shows up with the additions, we revert back to a top 5 defense, then we can handle the chiefs. I'd say they owned us in both games. First one they just ran and it looked closer than it was. We couldn't stop them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Without Zack Ertz the Bills will lose One word. STIR! love it though. I think we need a wang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dr. K said: If they are so invincible, how the hell did eight teams--including the Panthers and Falcons--come within a touchdown of beating them? Not to mention the two teams that did beat them, by 12 and 17 points in the regular season. And then they lost the Super Bowl by 22 points. The Chiefs rested their entire first string in week 17. Other than that, they were 14-1. Buffalo was 6-1 in one score games while getting blown out three times (two of which were by Kansas City). If you're going to play this game, you have to apply the same rules to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Yet they killed the Bills. What does that make us? Paper tampons duh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyBatty is alive Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, snowbelt_subie said: bro they were on cruise control in the regular season when you are that good you just turn it on when you need a drive those teams never had a chance ... they went 13-1 mahomes rested the last game. the NFL is about matchups . like i said TB had pressure with 4 and Speed everywhere in the back 7 . TB got the Chiefs in at the right time with the D Line peaking and the Chiefs O Line a mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I'd say they owned us in both games. First one they just ran and it looked closer than it was. We couldn't stop them. the real question we should be asking is why couldnt they stop them? could they get no pressure? Could they not matchup and cover their weapons? Did they address the problems or is it going to be more the same this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billl said: The Chiefs rested their entire first string in week 17. Other than that, they were 14-1. Buffalo was 6-1 in one score games while getting blown out three times (two of which were by Kansas City). If you're going to play this game, you have to apply the same rules to everyone. Indeed it has been a feature of McDermott's tenure here. He has been good in one score games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Yet they killed the Bills. What does that make us? End thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I watched a few of those Chiefs games, and have to say, even if the final score was close they completely dominated. The Bucs game (regular season) Tyreek Hill had 200+ yards and 3 TDs....by halftime. They had a 17 point lead going into the 4th and took their foot off the gas. The Dolphins game they scored 30 unanswered points including 21 points in < 3 minutes of game time. They had a 20 point lead going into the 4th before taking their foot off the gas. They are so talented they can beat quality teams when they only bring their "A game" for 1-2 quarters and sleep walk through the 4th. They might miss the playoffs....if Mahomes gets injured. Other than that they are overwhelming favorites to make the playoffs, and well deserved favorites to win the SB. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Yet they killed the Bills. What does that make us? Shredded Paper Tigers Edited August 17, 2021 by ChevyVanMiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, NoSaint said: id be more curious how they won those. Example - like 5 years ago Atlanta had similar with an insane turnover differential that didn’t tie back to anything meaningful (ie pressure) but mostly lucky bounces. They fell off a cliff predictably. Hell, our own fitz magic season was similar with outcomes not matching underlying indicators that first month. Without doing a deep dive and just a gut reaction on a couple games I watched, I didn’t get that feeling from the chiefs last year. Remember (maybe you aren’t this old), the season where Jarious Byrd could not be in the wrong place? He had the ball fall in his lap the minute he walked on the field. It won the Bills a lot of games by way of “stopping” drives where it was just a random tip that practically got stuck in his face mask. It happens that teams get a lucky streak, heck a lucky season. The Falcons that year played in a WEAK division and got a lot of bounces, the next year they got slapped around like they did in the playoffs when they ran into a real team. The Chiefs have dominated almost every team they have played in the last 2 years and whooped the Bills handedly. This is not a team that’s gotten by on beating up on garbage teams. They have had some off days, every team does, but to look at them and regard them as anything less than the best team in the AFC and arguably the best team in the NFL is just silly. The Bucs did get hot at the right time and they did catch some major breaks (like virtually the entire Chiefs starting OL being out), and they did win, so if you want to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise, fine. There’s still no reasonable argument the Chiefs aren’t the second best team or better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I get it that the Chiefs are the favorites in the AFC, and probably should be. But they also went into the Super Bowl favored to win. I said before the game that they would lose, and lose by double figures. Why? If you look at their play last season, especially in the second half of the season, they barely squeaked out eight of their wins. They lost to the Raiders and Chargers, and in other games: beat the Chargers by 3 in OT beat the Panthers by 2 beat the Raiders by 4 beat the Bucks by 3 beat the Broncos by 6 beat the Dolphins by 6 beat the Saints by 3 beat the Falcons by 3 A good team will win many close games, but when a team wins that many games by less than a touchdown you can expect a regression to the mean. Despite Mahomes and Kelce and Hill, and the fact they beat the Bills twice last year, I don't see any reason the Bills should be quaking in their boots about playing them. I predict the Chiefs will have a fall off this season and would not be at all surprised if they fail to make the playoffs. They lived on the edge last season and when you do that, you are in danger of falling off. all you have to do is win. By how much doesn't matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Weren't we like 6-2 with a negative point differential at some point? I think we also know something about squeeking out one score wins, and getting blown out in losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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