Ex Bills TE Logan Thomas Quietly Having a Great Season

[JohnNord]

Former Bills Tight End Logan Thomas made the highlight reel today for throwing a nice 28 yard pass to set up a Washington score and catching a nice little goal line TD.

 

I knew that Thomas was kicking around the league but what I didn’t realize is that he’s putting together a very nice season for Washington.

 

Currently he has 34 catches for 328 yards and 4 TD’s.  These aren’t earth shattering numbers - it’s probably why we haven’t heard much about him this season.  But they do put him in the top half of TE’s in the league.  
 

 

Also, it’s definitely not bad productivity for a player who couldn’t get on the field much for the Bills.  

 

I remember the potential that you’d see him in occasionally when Thomas was trying to crack the lineup in Buffalo.  Glad that he’s finally realizing it in Washington a few seasons later.  He seemed to be a pretty good dude and I’m genuinely happy for him.  

Edited November 27, 2020 by JohnNord

[TBBills]

I still see not much potential...

[Freddie's Dead]

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

[Billznut]

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

I still see not much potential...

Better than any of our putrid TEs 

[Utah John]

Buffalo is a sort of Twilight Zone for TEs. I have no idea why.  We've had a couple of decent ones, but no threats, and it always seems that TEs who come here from somewhere else don't live up to their past, and TEs who leave here do better at their new spot. 

 

I had hopes for Dawson Knox but this season has been a complete bust for him.  But if we release him, he'll go somewhere else and turn into the guy we hoped he'd be here.

[John from Riverside]

24 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Buffalo is a sort of Twilight Zone for TEs. I have no idea why.  We've had a couple of decent ones, but no threats, and it always seems that TEs who come here from somewhere else don't live up to their past, and TEs who leave here do better at their new spot. 

 

I had hopes for Dawson Knox but this season has been a complete bust for him.  But if we release him, he'll go somewhere else and turn into the guy we hoped he'd be here.

I was thinking this exact same thing

[Beast]

32 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I had hopes for Dawson Knox but this season has been a complete bust for him.  But if we release him, he'll go somewhere else and turn into the guy we hoped he'd be here.

If it happens, it happens. I get what you are saying but Knox needs to be held accountable for his performance in a Bills uniform, not what he may become in another organization.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

That's because their #2 and #3 WR's are horrible averaging 24 and 22 yards per game the TE will see a lot of looks.  We're 5th in passing yards per game right now.  Without googling it name the leading TE for the greatest show on turf.  The point being is you don't need great production from your TE core to be a productive offense.

[machine gun kelly]

Doc, thanks for inserting common sense.  We are week to week the #1 or 2 10 or 11 personnel team in the NFL.  We have Diggs on pace for over 1400 yards, Beasley 1100 yards, and if Brown wasn’t hurt a couple of times, he would be up there as well.  Given we run these groupings, you can assume the Bills know it’s better for 3 or 4 wides on the field and Davis is having a very good rookie season.

 

There just isn’t room for a ton of TE work, but when we need a serviceable TE, it’s Kroft, not Knox as he’s just not reliable yet.  He’s going to have to prove in practice he stops trying to look up field, and secures the ball first.  I’m betting in a solid TE class, we take one in the draft.  As far as the Washington TE, he has a low ceiling.  If we make this WR Corp into the best in the NFL, I can live with that all day.

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, Billznut said:

Better than any of our putrid TEs 

It's the Alex Smith effect 

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

Alex Smith he only throws to TEs

[Rochesterfan]

5 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Former Bills Tight End Logan Thomas made the highlight reel today for throwing a nice 28 yard pass to set up a Washington score and catching a nice little goal line TD.

 

I knew that Thomas was kicking around the league but what I didn’t realize is that he’s putting together a very nice season for Washington.

 

Currently he has 34 catches for 328 yards and 4 TD’s.  These aren’t earth shattering numbers - it’s probably why we haven’t heard much about him this season.  But they do put him in the top half of TE’s in the league.  
 

 

Also, it’s definitely not bad productivity for a player who couldn’t get on the field much for the Bills.  

 

I remember the potential that you’d see him in occasionally when Thomas was trying to crack the lineup in Buffalo.  Glad that he’s finally realizing it in Washington a few seasons later.  He seemed to be a pretty good dude and I’m genuinely happy for him.  

 

He still could not get on the field for most teams in the NFL - including this one.  He is on a team in Washington with a QB that utilizes the TE a ton.  Smith went an entire year basically throwing all his TDs and a good percentage of completions to TEs - so I am not surprised at all.

 

Add to that - WFT’s lack of talent at WR and the TEs become even more relevant.

 

I prefer to see the Bills utilizing the WRs as the main receiving weapons and they use the TEs as H-Back/Blocking backs to help pick up blitzes and protect Allen.

 

I would imagine here - he would not beat out Knox or Kroft and would probably be behind Smith due to his blocking.  I am happy for him, but I do not confuse the numbers he is putting up in that system with thinking he could do something here.

[TBBills]

Not to mention the Washington FT has no WRs so of course he will get more targets.

 

 

I do like the people that think he would do anything on this team except take up space though.

 

[JMF2006]

4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

 

When your QB is a noodle arm who only throws to RB's and TE for the most part you can get a few catches

 

Check out their WR numbers then check the Bills numbers.

BTW congrats to Logan for finding a home

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The guys got 34 catches for 328 yards through 11 games. “Great season” might be a little generous 

[Don Otreply]

5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

Well, that’s not a very high bar now is it 😁, for reasons I don’t know, the bills have not known how to use tight ends for a very long time. Kroft is the most useful one we currently have, iirc he has three TDs, and knows how to block... so maybe they will stop messing around and use him more... 

 

Go Bills!!!

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's because their #2 and #3 WR's are horrible averaging 24 and 22 yards per game the TE will see a lot of looks.  We're 5th in passing yards per game right now.  Without googling it name the leading TE for the greatest show on turf.  The point being is you don't need great production from your TE core to be a productive offense.

 

Looking at the other posts, clearly the Logan Thomas hate runs deep at TBD.  Our WR's definitely mask our deficiencies at TE.  I'm guessing that if all the TE drops were caught, then their numbers relative to Logan Thomas would be better.  Bottom line, we need more out of the TE position.

[fergie's ire]

The ex-Bills giveth and the ex-Bills taketh away for the football team.  Thomas was one of their go-to guys on offense, and when Dallas had the ball, Ronald Darby was their go-to guy.

[DJB]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Not to mention the Washington FT has no WRs so of course he will get more targets.

 

 

I do like the people that think he would do anything on this team except take up space though.

 

 

Terry McLaurin is a stud. He's closer to Diggs than he is John Brown. He's really good. 

 

 But beyond Terry. Yikes 😬 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

bring back pete!!

 

[HOUSE]

Oh my god no, this is very concerning..😲

[Nick the Greek]

5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

 

4 hours ago, Billznut said:

Better than any of our putrid TEs 

Kroft has 3 TDs so far this year. That counts for something I say. 
 

he also missed a game due to COVID, so those numbers could potentially be even better.

Edited November 27, 2020 by Nick the Greek

[thenorthremembers]

3 hours ago, Utah John said:

Buffalo is a sort of Twilight Zone for TEs. I have no idea why.  We've had a couple of decent ones, but no threats, and it always seems that TEs who come here from somewhere else don't live up to their past, and TEs who leave here do better at their new spot. 

 

I had hopes for Dawson Knox but this season has been a complete bust for him.  But if we release him, he'll go somewhere else and turn into the guy we hoped he'd be here.

The league is a sort of Twilight Zone for tight ends right now.  The number of productive players at the position has dwindled because teams are running more 4 and 5 wide sets.  If your tight end isnt one of you best pass catchers they become a blocker pretty quick.   If we win games I could care less who catches the ball.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Bills 4 TE's together have 35/245 and 5 TD's, so he's singlehandedly doing more than our whole TE corps.  Good for him.

 

Good for him, but he's rockin' the 57% completion percentage and low ypt that had Detroit motoring on from him.

I think he's just getting a lot of targets.

 

Had a good game yesterday, though.  Maybe he's proof of what people say that some of these TE just take a few years to develop - he's been in the league since 2014.

[CSBill]

21 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

The league is a sort of Twilight Zone for tight ends right now.  The number of productive players at the position has dwindled because teams are running more 4 and 5 wide sets.  If your tight end isnt one of you best pass catchers they become a blocker pretty quick.   If we win games I could care less who catches the ball.  

 

Intelligent observation!

 

TE play around the league is bipolar, if you have a great one (Chiefs, Raiders) you use them and the advantages they bring. If you don't, which 80% of the NFL, you sneak them into the pass game and for the most part use them as extra blockers and safety valves as needed.

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by CSBill

[JohnNord]

I’m not saying that Thomas is a great TE or comparing him to the Bills TE’s.  I’m just saying that he was a player that showed a lot of athleticism as a TE is finally doing some good things.  
 

I remember when he was in Buffalo, his wife tragically lost their baby girl.   The positive way the family handled the situation was inspiring.  It made me want to root for Logan ever since.  Things didn’t work out in Buffalo but it looks like he should have a spot in the NFL for years to come.  
 

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[dma0034]

There really is only a few elite TEs

 

Kelce, Kittle, Waller

 

Next level: Hockenson, Andrews

[T master]

8 hours ago, TBBills said:

I still see not much potential...

 

SURPISE !!! 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Pedestrian numbers for a TE yet he’s outperforming our sorry group 

[scuba guy]

I do remember all the crap big 88 would take from radio shows and fans would always say when he catches the ball the wind would blow him over.

Always got tackled fast not much yac

[Rc2catch]

Targets people targets. 
We can be upset with our tight end stats all day but they’re not targeted in the pass game. This is why when Knox makes a mistake it stands out so badly. There’s what maybe 1-2 targets a game to tight ends and of course if Knox makes a mistake it jumps off the screen. Kroft has stepped up when asked but he still sees no targets. 
It’s not like these guys are so bad they’re never open that’s basically impossible in this offense. It doesn’t totally matter who you bring in if you don’t target them during the games. 

[Ya Digg?]

5 hours ago, Utah John said:

Buffalo is a sort of Twilight Zone for TEs. I have no idea why.  We've had a couple of decent ones, but no threats, and it always seems that TEs who come here from somewhere else don't live up to their past, and TEs who leave here do better at their new spot. 

 

I had hopes for Dawson Knox but this season has been a complete bust for him.  But if we release him, he'll go somewhere else and turn into the guy we hoped he'd be here.

I’m honestly trying to think of a TE who left Buffalo and have done so much better. I like Thomas, but he has 300+ yards receiving and 4 touchdowns. While better than Buffalo’s tight ends (but less touchdowns) he not exactly crushing it 

[Doc]

Can't wait forever for players to emerge, if that's what you want to call Thomas' 29.6 YPG.  This is his 5th season playing after entering the NFL in 2014.

[Victory Formation]

But is he dating the owner’s daughter?

[TPS]

4 hours ago, TBBills said:

It's the Alex Smith effect 

Alex Smith he only throws to TEs

 Hmmm...interesting theory...

 

First 4 games with Haskins: 13, 102, 1

2 games with K. Allen: 7, 102, 2  

Last 4 games with Smith: 13, 120, 1

 

Logan Thomas is having his best season. It's okay to admit it.

I recall some nice articles about him during his time here, and he seemed like a really good guy. 

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

I’m not saying that Thomas is a great TE or comparing him to the Bills TE’s.  I’m just saying that he was a player that showed a lot of athleticism as a TE is finally doing some good things.  
 

I remember when he was in Buffalo, his wife tragically lost their baby girl.   The positive way the family handled the situation was inspiring.  It made me want to root for Logan ever since.  Things didn’t work out in Buffalo but it looks like he should have a spot in the NFL for years to come.  
 

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Thanks for posting. I remember the same. Good for him.  Bad look for the haters.

[The Frankish Reich]

Good for him. Washington hasn't exactly been the preferred landing spot for NFL players these last few years, but it was perfect for Thomas. With where the Bills were in the competition cycle (that is, the good part of it, moving up) there was never going to the opportunity for a project like Thomas to get into the mix here.

Much as I detest Daniel Snyder, I detest Jerry Jones more. With Alex Smith back and playing kind of like ... Alex Smith, I find myself pulling for these guys to win the Worst Division Ever and then to upset someone in round 1. Just because it would be fun to watch.

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's because their #2 and #3 WR's are horrible averaging 24 and 22 yards per game the TE will see a lot of looks.  We're 5th in passing yards per game right now.  Without googling it name the leading TE for the greatest show on turf.  The point being is you don't need great production from your TE core to be a productive offense.

 

 

Except in KC and Balt.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's because their #2 and #3 WR's are horrible averaging 24 and 22 yards per game the TE will see a lot of looks.  We're 5th in passing yards per game right now.  Without googling it name the leading TE for the greatest show on turf.  The point being is you don't need great production from your TE core to be a productive offense.

I'm not disagreeing.  St. Loius Rams had great WRs but also had Faulk catching neatly 100 passes. KC has Kelce. Their is no one perfect combination.  Right now Bills are doing it with great WR production and not much else. Having to defend a TE or RB out of the backfield would make the Bills offense even better.

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Pedestrian numbers for a TE yet he’s outperforming our sorry group 

better than average numbers and they aren’t pretty.

 

makes you wonder if outside truly great talents it’s a bit like comparing rushing yards for full backs on most teams?

 

It’s nice to have one but at this point most teams don’t have a great one. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Thomas has seen an uptick of snaps and targets since Alex Smith took over.  While he isn’t setting the world on fire, he seems to have earned the trust of Smith and a lot of his receptions are check downs.  He and Gibson are Smith’s safety blanket, and Alex checks down a lot.  Not to take anything away from Logan at all.  He’s stepped up and made the most of his opportunities.

 

[GoBills808]

4 hours ago, TBBills said:

Not to mention the Washington FT has no WRs so of course he will get more targets.

 

 

I do like the people that think he would do anything on this team except take up space though.

 

Terry McLaurin has 63 catches for 963 yards, good for first in the league.