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Rochesterfan

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  1. That’s fair, but if people are going to complain about the PSLs - there is an option to fix it at a significantly cheaper per person rate and that is to spread it out across everyone in the state. There is no reason the Bills and the Buffalo area do not deserve it because we have funded multiple new Baseball and Hockey stadiums downstate - including significant funding to a stadium built outside the state in NJ. I don’t care either way - I am still going to go to the game, but if people are going to complain about PSL - then stop complaining about the public/private financing. The Pegula’s have been doing a ton to make this as palatable as possible. Their ideal scenario has to be a nice stadium downtown near their other businesses, but they are willing to go smaller to better fit the price point of the market and still people complain like they are being unreasonable. I have no issues if they want 100% private and a massive PSL, but based upon the studies and the surveys season ticket holders have done - it sounds like fans did not want Lots of PSLs - therefore you need more public money. It is costing the 1.4 billion and the public will be paying for it whether it is from taxes and fees or PSLs and ticket prices - either way the people are paying.
  2. I don’t get this take at all. This is 100% what they should be doing. It is why I want 100% public financed stadium. The higher the public portion - the lower the PSLs. This was the most obvious thing in the world. Now if we get a 60/40 public/Private financed stadium - The Pegula’s will be looking to make 600,000 in PSLs and new ticket prices. An average of 10,000 per seat. Expect more costs to be coming your way.
  3. This is a terrible point and you should be better than this. This was the first off season they could resign him and everyone knew Josh was the first guy they had to sign - which got done near the end of training camp. The only facts we have in regards to how they feel about him and a long term deal is the fact they picked up the 5th year option despite the fact the due to 2 ProBowls (whether anyone wants to count them or not - for his contract they absolutely counted) causing his option to be higher than other at the position. Other than picking up the option - none of us know what the Bills and Edmunds agents have discussed for long term deals. We don’t know which other LBs Edmunds agents wanted signed first to set value, we don’t know if the Bills offered him a long term contract and they declined because of how the cap will play out with the new TV deal. None of us knows if they mutually decided to wait until this next off season because of the salary cap or maybe talked about other options. To say that he isn’t the foundation because in the 4 months they have been allowed to sign him - they haven’t yet, is absolutely wrong - especially with his draft classmate having to get signed 1st. If he plays out the rest of the contract and they don’t try to re-sign him - then this becomes a legitimate statement, but until then we can only judge his worth on the fact that the Bills did pick up the very expensive 5th year option and Beane has said after Josh was done they would look at his contract.
  4. Totally agree - said this in another thread - that play was just amazing. The drop and bump on the receiver, the slide to the middle, most importantly the recognition of not only where the rush was, but where Brissett had to escape, and then the speed to come downhill at him and make the open field tackle before Brissett can get going. Superb! The ability he and AJ have with their hand placement and using that to get leverage is just next level. When Rousseau pancakes the tackle right into Brissett by punching up on the arm and driving - it is like a faster version of Reggie White’s old hump move. Can not wait to watch these guys continue to develop. Match their speed and length with the stature and power of Basham and you will keep these guys of platform for years.
  5. That logic would be fine if he took his chances on 4th and 2. With the penalty there were 2 real choices: 1) Accept the penalty and replay at 3rd and 10 or 2) Decline the penalty and go for it at 4th and 2 near mid-field He choose option 3: 3) Decline the penalty and punt from near mid-field - then to add insult to stupidity- they punt into the end zone giving a net 30 yards. The only time option 3 should even be an option is very, very deep in your own end - inside the 5 and the extra yards give you a safer punt. Even then, I would rather see them accept the penalty and take a shot. If the 13 yards had pushed them into FG range and the penalty kept you outside - you could decline and kick a game winning FG, but at the point of the game this occurred - I would still prefer to see a coach trying to win than decline the penalty and kick a FG. It was a total give up move by the coach.
  6. Maybe, but it will slow down everyone along the line because if he passes - the lineman cannot go downfield. My guess is this evolution leads to more penalties on the offense and more kicks that get returned because of a lack of coverage.
  7. How many has he had blocked versus how many has BoJo had blocked? A quick review showed he has had 2 blocked over 5 years and almost 2x the number of kicks as Bojo. BoJo in half the number of kicks and fewer years has also had 2 blocked. He is slower, but he has been that way his career and yet somehow with proper blocking he had only 1 blocked previously. Additionally - I don’t care who was back there - because a guy came straight through virtually untouched - that kick was getting blocked. That block was on the 2 guys that did not pick him up when he busted through. Haack’s speed did him no favors, but that guy was not slowed down a bit. So that cost us 6 points - now please do how many points BoJo cost us with missed XPs and FGs because he could not hold. There were at least 4 kicks with the laces facing the wrong way last year alone. The Kicker gets blamed for a bad hold by BoJo. It almost got Bass cut early last year.
  8. That is what you want, but McD wants the MLB role played by Edmunds to be a deep zone cover guy. He is rarely asked to pick up TEs or WRs or RBs in man to man - therefore he shouldn’t be “on anybody’s back”. He typically drops trying to prevent throws - and as was shown by Baldy’s tweet - on multiple sacks - he was in position to prevent a quick strike and therefore allow the pressure to get home. Additionally McD - and most NFL coaches are significantly less concerned than fans with running attacks. They don’t want an old school Klein LB that can only attack downhill because that leaves you vulnerable to even a mediocre passing attack. There are many things about Edmunds I hope improve, but good teams with top end QBs know how to attack what Buffalo ran and a big part of that was to flood the middle of the field with multiple guys and have the QB look one way and then throw the other. When the Bills could get no pressure - that forced Edmunds to move to attack one receiver and left the other open. It was a scheme issue and it looks like the Bills addressed it with Safety help. The Safety picked up the TE several times against Miami - freeing Edmunds to shade into his zone and taking away curl routes. Last year we attacked several good LBs with similar throws - flood Beasley and Diggs through the middle and if the LB stepped up to Beasley - hit Diggs over the top and if the LB stayed back - hit Beasley. It is a simple 2 person concept that forces a player to make a decision and gives the QB an easy completion in the vacated area. That was very common with Edmunds and was especially seen against KC - and it was not Edmunds doing anything wrong - it was no pressure to force the 1st throw - allowing the QB to slide and read Edmunds. I do agree - he struggles to disengage from blockers and moves backwards on contact - many times on purpose, but without a full understanding of the defense - I am not sure what that is about. Many times his taking a step back allows him to move to keep the guy contained and allow others to flow. He is not - nor will he ever be - a Ray Lewis, Dick Butkus type of MLB that attacks like a Heat Seeking Missile, but he is a strong team leader that seems to fill the exact role they ask of him on a defense that when he has been healthy - has been top 10 and top 5 his first 2 years.
  9. I agree and not just because I think Brissett is just as good as Tua, but with experience. My bigger concern was that the aggressive defense we had seen - created for a left handed Tua was going to get abandoned because we now had a right handed, more experienced QB in the game. I was thrilled to see them stay aggressive - although the very first play - that side arm completion around the blitzer gave me pause that Brissett was going to play out of his mind - in the end the defense stayed the course and blew them out.
  10. I think all he is saying is if it was only being given as a defensive prize - why choose Edmunds and not Poyer or Hyde as both are also defensive captains and both played more of the game. McD chose to give Edmunds - a defensive captain- the ball specifically. Does it mean anything else - who knows. Maybe Edmunds was instrumental in some of the early play calls based on film study or getting players in the right spot. Maybe the plays succeeded because he was in good position on the first 2 sacks preventing quick throws? He made an impact without making the tackle. The only fact that we know is that Edmunds was chosen to get the game ball by the HC and he is one of 3 defensive captains on the roster and the locker room seemed happy he got the ball. @LeGOATskidid not change his statement at all as far as I can tell. He pointed out that Edmunds was given the game ball. Then someone said - well that means nothing as it was given to the defensive captain. @LeGOATskithen replied with basically if it was being given just 100% for defense - why would McD not chose either of the other 2 captains (Poyer or Hyde) both with longer service and played more in the game - both also had big plays including a sack by Hyde. @LeGOATskiasks a valid question that is 100% consistent and germane to this discussion - the issue is none of us know why Edmunds was chosen or if it meant more. Was there further meaning behind it for the week of practice, game film, something he did in the game, or just because his name comes up first alphabetically amongst the defensive captains.
  11. Because Corey was a below average punter at placement and angling of kicks and was absolutely terrible at holding for FGs and XPs. Corey over the last 2 years has cost the Bills more points that Haack will - the issue is the blame was given to the Kickers not the problem point of the holder. Additionally - The blocked kick this year has given Haack 2 blocked kicks in his 5th season - while Corey has had 2 blocked in 4 years. Corey also had his 2 blocked in about 170 kicks versus the 2 blocks on Haack in 314 kicks. So basically we got a better placement punter, that is better at holding, and has had a better career record at punting without blocks by a significant margin - even being slower. Does that help answer your question?
  12. Very hard to tell from the broadcast angles, but I thought you hit the DE rotation right on. For the DTs - I thought it was Star and Oliver on early downs - with Zimmer filling in for both depending upon need. I thought when the Bills went up bigger mid 3rd quarter - Star’s play count dropped (coming off injury with the heat) and Butler started filling in more. I felt like the Bills had Star as a 1TDT and Oliver as the 3TDT early and then Zimmer doing a bit of both depending upon who they wanted rotated out. Later when it was more rushing the passer all the time - you had Butler come in and essentially ran multiple 3TDT with them all just stopping the RB on the way to the passer. I can’t wait to see what the Cover 1 guys see/say. I get the feeling this coaching staff is adjusting and trying to get these guys in their best advantage possible. Early it was corners and DBs - along with Milano - blitzing and DE and LBs dropping into spaces to cover up quick passes - with DBs playing man outside. Later - after Edmunds went out with cramping and Klein filled in - it Klein doing the blitzing and Milano dropping into coverage. You also saw Rousseau drop a couple of times - including the nice play where Brissett squeezed through the rush and looked to try and take off and Rousseau cut to the middle and drove forward to take Brissett down. I was very impressed on that play with the leverage Rousseau used as he dropped to a zone - it was vacated and he kept his eyes on the QB. He drifted toward the middle and then read Brissett and then moved up and made a great open field tackle.
  13. Not a concern in the least - if the team had a plan to use Mitch in victory formation- then they probably had him taking snaps before heading out - therefore I don’t think the risk was any greater. I would also rather at this point have Mitch trying to recover a fumble in victory time rather than Josh.
  14. Hard to say - I am not convinced that JB is not just as good as Tua - although I think Tua has better ball placement - I think JB’s experience helped get him into better plays and make plays when nothing was there. My gut tells me that Tua probably finds some scores late - he did put 17 on NE and I consider them to be an excellent defense. I just think the Bills go even more killer and he would of eventually been knocked out because he just was not able to handle the defense pressure we were throwing up.
  15. Was it a Super Bowl caliber win - who knows. What it was - was a convincing, shut out victory over a team that is expected to compete for not only the playoffs, but the division title. Miami was widely considered to be one of the top AFC teams and based upon last year and the additional talent they secured in the draft and via FA - they were supposed to be the AFC East team that challenged the Bills for the Division. They were the only AFC East team to get a victory last week and beat a team in NE that is expected to also challenge. It is not like Miami beat Houston or the Jets - so yes - it was a darn good win over a team that will be right with Buffalo until the end of the season. We will see where that offense ends up by the end, but to shut them out and stuff them on multiple 4th downs and force multiple Turnovers- yeah the defense deserves an A to A+ - just looking at your original post tells me your not a realist, but it is what it is - you can freely complain and most people can freely disagree and note that your assessment was just not good. Facts are facts and every game does matter and anytime your defense can force multiple turnovers, get multiple sacks (6), hold a team to under 75 yards rushing and 200 yards passing while blowing them out (even in garbage time) - then that defense did some incredible things. When your offense puts up nearly 150 yards rushing and 3 scores and you pass for multiple scores against what is considered to be a top 3-5 defense in the league - the offense also should get some praise. Do they have things to clean up - yep, but that is an excellent defense and they won many games for Miami last year and yet they found ways to move the ball and get into a rhythm. Overall - all 3 phases and the coaching were better than the opponents and they manhandled a very good team - with things that still need to be cleaned up, but an overall very good performance by the team.
  16. Totally agree with the first part. Not sure what to make of the 2nd. What else could Miami have done to be “all in” on Tua? They drafted and picked up several offensive weapons - including Waddle - a perfect fit for Tua. They have drafted a ton of Oline men to try and protect him. They continued to start him last year - even when it was obvious that the team responded better to Fitz. They had a chance to draft another top flight QB this year - as high as #3 and chose not to - showing huge faith in Tua. I would agree that the owner has been a bit weird as it seems last year - he really wanted Tua in the draft and then to play and he has moved on to wanting Watson now, but Flores and the GM both seem to have been all in on Tua - especially this year.
  17. Is Tua a top 32 offensive threat? Brissett isn’t great, but Tua has not shown himself at this point to be better. Anytime you pitch a shutout in the NFL - it is worth an A at minimum. I was also impressed that when they knocked Tua out - the Bills didn’t go back to a plain vanilla defense - they still attacked him and forced him to try and make plays - they gave up very few “easy” throws to either Miami or Pittsburgh.
  18. It looks to me like they are using more safety coverage on the TE this year and using Edmunds more in an underneath drop into areas around the slot - getting into passing areas. I saw a lot more of Poyer and Hyde picking up TEs than last years. It is not a great matchup, but Ithink they are looking at different ways to attack a TE heavy team - like Baltimore and KC.
  19. I just found Matt to be useless. It seemed obvious that both commentators were completely unfamiliar with both AFC teams and had nothing really relevant to add to the broadcast. Millen was interesting in the fact that he talked and talked about unrelated things like an old school meathead and at many points was just rambling on about utter non-sense. At least he did not take himself to serious - he sounded more like a fan doing this for the first time than an actual long time NFL veteran with playing and front office experience. If you just listened to him speak - I would have thought he maxed out at high school football and barely understood the NFL game. The physics comments were just so out of left field, then the fart comment, dissing his fellow commentators yellow tie was another highlight, and then he got totally lost trying to explain a good referee versus a bad referee. I was interested until once again about half way through the ref speech - he lost his point and was like a bad referee let’s the players decide the game. He certainly wasn’t cliche’ and that is good, but he also was just talking to talk and gave little insight or even strong input.
  20. Coach should be fired on the spot. No reason for that kind of stupidity. I really don’t get how you can do that as a staff. They weren’t winning anyway, but Get a clue.
  21. Those were all better than the physics dissertation he gave that made no sense - coupled with his fart comment on a play. Complete and utter waste of a broadcast. His talk of recruiting both Marino and Kelly in college was another brilliant point. The man should be removed from the booth.
  22. Only if the entire foot comes down. Seen it before - thought they got it right - I was shocked. Then the Titans give up a huge drive by basically playing off. Terrible coaching job.
  23. @DasNootz - Haven’t airlines gone with the first option - due to federal mandate - all people on public transportation are required to wear a face mask without exceptions. That makes it pretty easy to enforce and gives them a strong backing. There is very limited people on a flight and you can enforce and it has still lead to increase incidents and violence. It does not work in a stadium with 70,000 and as you said people that can buy food and drink. We saw at practices and the 1st game the mask requirement in the stadium concourse and inside areas was a 100% failure. Therefore - they had to shift and follow the Raiders and go to 100% vaccination route - therefore making that the least intrusive option for fans.
  24. @Hapless Bills Fan - I get the negative test request, but there are viable reasons why that is not offered. Right now in NYS - unvaccinated individuals are supposed to be masked when indoors in communal areas - so like grocery markets, shopping, etc. Vaccinated individuals are allowed to enter those spaces unmasked. For me I mask-up everywhere I go because if people are not wearing a mask - you have no way of knowing are the vaccinated and following the rules or unvaccinated and not following - it is all on your honor and I don’t really trust my fellow neighbors to be fully honest at this point. In regards to the stadium - if we follow that - and maybe they won’t- this mandate of 100% vaccinated people - allows them to eliminate masking and make it easy to enforce as everyone is 100 vaccinated. If you allow testing of people - even same day testing - but even a percentage of those fans are unvaccinated- then you have unvaccinated fans that should be required to mask up in certain “indoor” spaces and now you return to the Bills having to try to enforce something that was proven to be unenforceable in practice. I think making it 100% vaccinated makes it much easier and more consistent for enforcement. If there was a way to show immunity - such as using the antibody tests that are available - I would 100% be on board with using those results to gain entry once immunity levels of the antibody have been established- then vaccinated or not - they have all shown to have antibodies and should be ok. Until that becomes widely available- 100% vaccinated is the best way to go to prevent having unenforceable rules that must be attempted.
  25. First - Negative test has nothing to do with immunity - so it is not an immunity test. Having a negative test is a viable option at some places, but more and more places are not considering it viable. Having a fully vaccinated groups makes it easy to set and enforce the rules as the entire stadium is on equal footing. They can then set masking rules and be consistent. An unvaccinated person with a negative test - still would be required to mask-up when inside any parts of the stadium and that becomes unenforceable - you wouldn’t know the status - so how do you enforce the rules. You act like they are excluding a specific group, but the truth is - they gave a mix vaccinated crowd a chance last week and found it impossible. This change allows them based upon State vaccine rules to treat everyone the same and not have to guess is this person unvaccinated and a negative test and must be masked or a vaccinated person that can be unmasked. It is really simple and it makes 100% sense and I applaud them for making this a simple and enforceable fix.
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