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  1. Totally McCoy. They were very concerned about mentorship or Devin. I think they wanted a pure professional as his mentor.
  2. Wait - what? Dead money is typically money that was given as a signing bonus upfront. Owners have already paid the dead money usually - it is the remaining contract they save on - not the dead money. The dead money would be money the owner already paid to a guy no longer on the team.
  3. Why? No, No, and nope on all of this. Not expected or surprise - they will keep the roster mostly intact. They will fill the few holes with lower to mid level players and then draft well. They will then let them battle it out in camp and cut or trade guys at that time to prepare for the next year. I expect few or no cuts of any kind because they do not need to open holes at this time - they have 30 roster slots and 90 million - cuts just are not going to happen in any large degree until camp. You are setting yourself up to be greatly disappointed with this list and your thoughts of big time FAs.
  4. A touchback may be relevant, but if teams think you have a poor return man - you are going to get high and short - forcing a return and then those yards matter.. You also need to consider punts which rarely result in a touchback, but it vital and provides positive yards - ask Carolina before cutting Ray Ray after 2 fumbled punts cost them a game early in the season before their slide began. I will also point to a team like KC - their 3rd string receiver Hardman was their returner and did well - plus he netted them 26 catches for 500 yards - exactly what people are asking for, but you know what. KC still had 2 additional lower tier WRs active in most games. One was active in all 16 and the other was active in 13. The provided 12 and 9 catches respectively for the year. So even though their return specialist was a primary receiver - they still had to activate 2 “bodies” for wr that provided nothing. The only differences is that on the Bills one of those 2 “bodies” provided the Returns rather than the 3rd WR. It is really just arguing about where the production comes from as you were still going to have the same number of WRs active whether it was McKenzie or Roberts returning the kicks. The difference is the Bills saw value in a return specialist that could fill in at WR in a pinch. This is the same approach over half the league took. The other half used a top end guy such as a 3rd WR or 3rd RB as their returner and still activated additional WRs and RBs that sat the bench in case of injuries and provided what Roberts did as a WR.
  5. Not exactly. If you had replaced Roberts with McKenzie and used their return averages (only thing we can do). Roberts on his nearly 60 combined returns accounted for 260 more yards than McKenzie would have just based upon the difference in their averages. That 260 yards is more yards than McKenzie had receiving for the season as the #3 WR on the team. It is also more than Foster and Duke Williams had receiving combined on the season and close to what the 2 of them and Zay Jones had combined for the Bills. His return yardage above replacement - would land him in 5th on the team for receiving yards as the #3 receiver. And that is just yards over replacement not the total number of yards he produced on returns. In the end you could of replaced him with McKenzie to open up a roster spot, but what would that spot have bought you. Your KR and PR yardage drops and as McKenzie played WR 3 most of the season - you are talking about dressing another WR that would have not seen the field. You increase risk and decrease Efficiency on returns for potential of having another WR that gives you less as a WR - like Foster.
  6. At one point in the middle of the season the Bills were among the least penalized teams on ST in the league. It seemed they were getting more calls late, especially Alexander, but I still think they were in the top half of the least penalized special teams units.
  7. Just a quick look at NFL.com looking at Kick returners and looking at their individual numbers show what you are looking for. Most of the top returners are WRs (few RB and DBs) and they tend to average around 20 catches from the WR position. Some like Tenn and Buffalo are under 10 and the Washington KR was top with 34 catches. Nothing earth shattering - very typical bottom of the WR numbers. You also have some RBs like Brandon Bolden in NE that returned Kick-offs and then basically sat on the bench with 15 rushes for the season. Additionally when you add Punt returns - you immediately see several teams were forced to use a different PR from the kick off returner (like NE) and their primary PR also provided nothing on offense with 2 catches and 2 fumbles on the year. What it looks like to me is that Buffalo is the norm and is lucky to have a guy that can do both kick and punt return and he was sure handed enough not to turn the ball over. 11 punt returners in the league had 2 or more fumbles on the year and 15 Kick Returners had at least 1 fumble. So in the end you have a guy as a specialist that returns both Kicks and Punts, does not turn the ball over, and is among the top returners in yards and efficiency and the complaint is that you get nothing on offense. The other thing o look at is who does it when Andre was inactive. McKenzie is the most often used player and he averaged 5 yards less per Kick return and 4 yards less on PR. Everything points to the Bills are fine using Roberts exactly as they are right now and continuing to adjust as needed.
  8. Voted a bunch of times - will try more later this evening. Let’s go Buffalo.
  9. I wonder if they will blow it up this year and let Marone be the fall guy. Then see where they fall and decide on a coach to rebuild. I would be looking to move on from or trade a bunch of those contracts - ala Miami. Then decide on the GM and Coach to rebuild it.
  10. I thought they brought him in specifically for Foles and the Philly connection. Wonder if this bodes poorly for Foles and that massive contract.
  11. Henry was huge, but to me the biggest difference is the Tennessee WRs made the plays and the Bills WRs didn’t. That TD catch was amazing and was significantly more difficult that the Duke Williams or the Brown catches both of which would have given the Bills big scores at a crucial time to put the game away. The catches by the WRs early - allowed the Henry runs at the end. If Brown pulls in that toe tapper and the Bills score a TD there - they get up 14-0 and if other things play out they are up 20-0. If Duke catches that ball - especially being held, but we see it many weeks, the Bills win the game. Josh made some mistakes, but much like last year - the catch radius and the playmaking by the Bills WRs is sorely lacking.
  12. Wow match this with your Tennessee take - nice troll job. Unreal.
  13. My god - what are you arguing. Once again (slower for you) - We were discussing the NYJ/BUFF game from years ago and how that would be interpreted with today’s rule. I am not sure how else to explain this. The discussion you keep quoting was not talking about this play in this game. In this game - the returner caught the ball before hitting the ground - so the ground part has absolutely no bearing on the play. As I have stated in this thread several times - what I do not know is what/how the safety signal works for this play and how this returner has used in earlier in the game and season. I also want to see other returns - because I think this has happened without the kneel down and not been an issue (just considered a touchback), but it was obvious both officials did not consider it a fair catch - so in that case without additional evidence - I think they should stay with the call on the field.
  14. I think the issue is that like many rules - they define it during the off season with the videos and training provided to the teams and Referees. They many times allow things that fall outside the exact definition of the rules. We saw it with the catch rule and PI - sometimes they expand or contract definitions not by changing rules, but by changing emphasis. The kickoffs have been that way on and off this year, but what happened in the playoff game was a further extreme. As to Cody Fords block - that was a big point of emphasis this season. Offensive players are not supposed to block anyone if they are facing away from the goal they are heading toward. It is supposed to protect from blindside hits, but even in this case with the guy looking at him - it is still illegal. I don’t agree with the rule, but it has been called that same way many times this season. I think both rules are having the effect the NFL wants - they just suck for the timing.
  15. Correct - the argument was why when it happened to the Bills in the Bills/Jets game it was a Jets TD. Since that game they changed the rule to mirror closer to punts to lessen injury. Kickoffs now that break the plain of the goal line and touch the ground are considered down once they touch the ground. That is new compared to the game in the Bills/Jets where the kickoff was considered a live ball.
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