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Who Is Your Least Favorite Bill of All Time ... and Why?


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Jairus Byrd has to be up there. Mister sore foot who just wanted out of Buffalo.

 

Marcel Dareus was a lazy piece of crap who sucked after paying him huge money.

 

Rob Johnson was just a waste of space. Say what you want about Flutie, but he was better than Johnson.

 

Willis McGahee is up there for trashing the city.

 

25 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Minimal talent? The guy won how many championships in Canada? I thought everyone liked Flutie. Even had his own cereal geeez. 

There's a small and vocal contingent here that make it their life's mission to bash Flutie.

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1 minute ago, Bferra13 said:

 

I'm with ya on this one. He was a reason I didnt like the Beasley signing. Another undersized, undertalented, bring your lunch pail to work white wr... great I thought. Luckily, Beasley is much better than Hogan.

Hogan seemed like a dbag. I don’t know him so I don’t know if he was. But he seemed like he wanted like crazy to be Julian Edelman. 

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Hogan seemed like a dbag. I don’t know him so I don’t know if he was. But he seemed like he wanted like crazy to be Julian Edelman. 

He seemed pretty down to earth in interviews. He always said the right things. Seems like teammates never had a problem with him. What about Hogan seemed off to you?

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23 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

Chris Watson 


Nailed it.  This guy was the worst football player to ever grace a field.  Dude was an absolute dumpster fire.  If he was on the field, expect him to get caught all over or be completely out of position. 
 

After him:

Kelsay - Should be in jail for robbery with his contract and performance

Jason Peters - ungrateful 

Willis McGahee - just an asshat

Donte Whitner - Not his fault we drafted him so high, but still sucked 

 

The rest of the people I could list just plain sucked, but I didn’t blame them for

it.  

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

They were both jokes.  But the Bills were winning a playoff game when Rob Johnson left the field.  He did his job.

Hilarious that the first 4 or 5 responses were jokes and yet people still are so thick they don’t catch on ?

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Toss up for me between Shawne Merriman’s tenure of post-roid injury riddled uselessness, and the on-field presence of Aaron Maybin (off-field I hear good things tho) who stole our 1st round pick in 09 with nary an impactful tackle made on the field in return. Good times! Thanks OP, for the wonderful trip down memory lane :thumbsup:

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Fred Smerlas, Richie Incognito and Doug Flutie...all were pretty decent players for us, but really didn't like any of them.

 

If we are including non-players, gotta go with Rex Ryan and Dick Jauron. Rex was just a clown, and Jauron almost single-handidly made me hate watching the Bills...almost. Been following the Bills every week since 1972, so I have seen some putrid Bills teams. Jaurons squads may not have been the very worst, but they were the most miserable to watch. I hated the "Jauron era".

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hmmm..?

 

well, Chuck Knox & Lou Saban(twice!) broke my heart. Rauch destroyed the team and my dreams. Cribbs bailing for the USFL made me feel betrayed. OJ(post career) made me question my fandom. Crappy players come & go. They’re usually the fault of poor scouting and their bashing post-Bills comments don’t upset me.

 

Having seen it all with the team, I’d have to conclude my least favorite Bill for embarrassing the city over a long period of time is....

 

 

 

 

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Ralph Wilson.

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41 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Toss up for me between Shawne Merriman’s tenure of post-roid injury riddled uselessness, and the on-field presence of Aaron Maybin (off-field I hear good things tho) who stole our 1st round pick in 09 with nary an impactful tackle made on the field in return. Good times! Thanks OP, for the wonderful trip down memory lane :thumbsup:

 

You're welcome!!!  This is part of the offseason!

 

Maybin definitely sucked.  But I've never held it against him.  It was simply a horrible draft pick and Maybin had no control over it.  But yes ... he was a bad (not Michael Jackson Bad) player!

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1 hour ago, Bferra13 said:

 

I'm with ya on this one. He was a reason I didnt like the Beasley signing. Another undersized, undertalented, bring your lunch pail to work white wr... great I thought. Luckily, Beasley is much better than Hogan.

The 6’1” 210 LB Chris Hogan was the reason you didn’t the like 5’8 175 LB Cole Beasley signing.

 

The math checks out.

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3 hours ago, Gugny said:

I just read the latest Sam Watkins thread.  Man, I couldn't stand that lazy piece of crap.

But my least favorite Bill of all time, hands down, is Doug Flutie.

Why?  He was a me-first, selfish player and a horrible teammate who divided the locker room.  A pompous, arrogant ass who had minimal talent.

People thought he was "a winner."  He was not a winner.  He was a QB with a top 3 defense who underperformed on offense, which led to the Bills doing nothing during his tenure.

Who is YOUR least favorite Bill and why do you feel that way?

 

Overall, I would have to say Aaron Maybin. 

 

Now it's not his fault that Buffalo way overdrafted him.  I felt we got some of the least production ever out of a #11 pick, but again, it's not his fault Buffalo over-drafted him.  He was drafted in 2009, before the rookie salary cap.

 

I felt he came in with an over-inflated sense of himself as a football player, sat out of his rookie training camp holding out for $$, but then never took his craft or training seriously in-season or off-season, and behaved like a tool - people remember Wood shouting "give back some of that money you ain't f****in earned!" at Maybin in training camp, but may not remember Wood reacted because Maybin had cheap-shotted FredEx after the end of a play then when Hangartner objected, he tried to take him down by the knees and punched him. 

 

Punk move for second day of training camp, and this was 2010: Jackson was the Bills most productive offensive player the previous year and it wasn't close.

 

Maybin got manicures, got fancy haircuts, couldn't get a sack - but he could cheapshot Fredex.

 

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T.O.

 

When they gave him the key to the city on a one year deal I died inside.  I know its not his fault we embarrassed ourselves. But sometimes . . . I wonder if T.O. isn't exactly the kind of person who might demand such a thing in his contract . . .

 

Also, where is Kyle Williams key to the city?

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I think it has to be Kiko. Some players were bright spots at some points in their career like Dareus. Some didn't force the Bills to pay them more like Kelsay. Kiko on the other hand might/has been responsible for players injuries that might have shortened their future health/lifespans.

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For anyone else old enough to remember him, I find it hard to imagine anyone saying anything but Billy Joe Hobert.

 

A backup QB put into the game on injury, he was awful and afterwards admitted he hadn't bothered preparing. Jackass.

 

#2 Marshawn and #3 Mike Williams and #4 McGahee.

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4 hours ago, Special K said:

He spiked the ball with 8 seconds left in the game....if he was smart enough to wait a few more seconds to spike it, the FG would have been the last play of the game and Music City Miracle never happens. Just sayin’.

 

 

Hunh? No.

 

The last play wasn't a spike. They faked spiking it and ended up running a play, and Rob Johnson without a shoe and with his ankle tape trailing behind him threw a completion to Price who went out of bounds with 20 seconds left, and that was when they kicked the FG.

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4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Agree 100% but I did not like the way he forced the trade after he blossomed as an LT here after being converted from a TE.

 

 

Peters didn't force the trade. He attempted to force them to pay him what he was worth. Said in his Philly intro press conference that he was shocked by the trade, that after they didn't give him a new contract that he expected to play out his Bills contract and then go elsewhere.

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5 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

 

I'm with ya on this one. He was a reason I didnt like the Beasley signing. Another undersized, undertalented, bring your lunch pail to work white wr... great I thought. Luckily, Beasley is much better than Hogan.

Their games couldn’t be more different. Or their sizes. Or anything, really.

 

Cole is 5’8. Hogan is 5 inches taller. Cole is a slot player. Hogan almost exclusively plays the boundary.

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Phil Villapiano. The whole time he was here he complained about being here. His only memorable quote was "Buffalo may not be the end of the world, but you can see it from there." I was glad to see him gone. He sucked anyways.

1 hour ago, Pbomb said:

Current bills, I’ll go with lee smith. While seems like a nice guy can’t stand his penalties and the fact he adds virtually no threat in the passing game 

 

He is one of the best, if not THE best blocking TE in the NFL. They didn't sign him to split the safeties deep anyways. Also, he doesn't drop passes.

3 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

Michael Jasper, simply because of all the threads I had to read on the OBD forum about how great he was going to be.

 

Slowest Bill ever and after 2 seasons, he still didn't even know the playbook.

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7 hours ago, Codyny13 said:

Tough one. Donte Whitner and Mcgahee come to mind. 


Cody, funny as that was my gut reaction with McGahee.  The OP asked why.  He was given a chance and taken in the 1st round after having that horrible knee injury in the Bowl game, doesn’t play for a year, and then did contribute, but tried so hard to get out.  Then repeatedly trashes Buffalo, the city, not just the team.

 

He has absolutely no appreciation for the risk Donahue took choosing him in the 1st, when no one would have even drafted him.  I personally thought he lost his mind taking him in the first, and proves why were in hell that decade.  One bad decision after another.

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Shady is the guy I’d be least likely to have a beer with. 

 

Sammy is the guy I wouldn’t draft in a pick up game. 

 

The most disliked?

 

Probably Hogan. He has that ugly LAX BRO face and I’m sure the attitude that goes with it. 9 yard hook on 3 and 10 made the catch flat on his belly. ?

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Aaron Maybin -- I guess it wasn't his fault that our organization was stupid enough to spend a first round draft pick on him -- but I still  can't believe that we actually wasted such a premium pick on that guy! It made my blood pressure rise every time I saw him in a Bills uniform.  He is at the very least in contention for the honor of being our worst draft pick ever & is my least favorite player of all time on the Bills.

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8 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

"Doug" won ten games like Tyrod got us to the playoffs and like Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

 

Doug didn't win *****.

I will never, ever get the Flutie hate. He was a fun QB to watch and exceeded his expectations and the team won when he was the QB -- a lot. That same team had a far different energy when RJ was under center, and he could never figure out how not to get sacked (doesn't he have the highest sack per dropback rate?). Also, if memory serves, there was a lot of talk about Buffalo moving that quieted down when Flutie went on his run. As for the playoff game, he was AWFUL in that game and if you're going to make the game manager atgument, it's just as logical to say Flutie might have had them ahead by a large enough margin that the forward lateral would never have happened. You don't have to be a fan, but why hate?!

 

My choice would have to ultimately be Incognito, having been bullied a lot of my childhood, but even then, I was able to rationalize rooting for him when he was on the team. Did not love RJ or JP at the time, but in retrospect, have nothing really against them, and the latter seemed like a nice enough guy (or at least wanted to do some good things for Buffalo). 

 

John Fina almost knocked me down when I was at Kelly's club and afterwards gave me a dirty look, so I wasn't fond of him for a long time, but later he (and a couple other players) had a deal with the record store where I worked and he would come in and we would talk music for hours and he was engagingly friendly.   

4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

For anyone else old enough to remember him, I find it hard to imagine anyone saying anything but Billy Joe Hobert.

 

A backup QB put into the game on injury, he was awful and afterwards admitted he hadn't bothered preparing. Jackass.

 

#2 Marshawn and #3 Mike Williams and #4 McGahee.

Yeah, BJH is a good point. Forgot about that point, but was pretty redfaced about him at the time. What QB does not learn the playbook?!?!

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6 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

I guess I'm in the minority who actually liked Flutie.  Maybe that's Argonauts fan in me.

Nah, I think it's 50/50. It's just that both sides are pretty vocal and dug in and whichever side gets their first will dominate the argument. 

 

As a little kid, I watched the hail mary game live, so between that excitement and the fact I never thought he got a fair shake for his size from draft day on, he was my favorite non-Bill, so when he signed with the Bills, I was ecstatic. 

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31 minutes ago, thurst44 said:

I will never, ever get the Flutie hate. He was a fun QB to watch and exceeded his expectations and the team won when he was the QB -- a lot. That same team had a far different energy when RJ was under center, and he could never figure out how not to get sacked (doesn't he have the highest sack per dropback rate?). Also, if memory serves, there was a lot of talk about Buffalo moving that quieted down when Flutie went on his run. As for the playoff game, he was AWFUL in that game and if you're going to make the game manager atgument, it's just as logical to say Flutie might have had them ahead by a large enough margin that the forward lateral would never have happened. You don't have to be a fan, but why hate?!

 

My choice would have to ultimately be Incognito, having been bullied a lot of my childhood, but even then, I was able to rationalize rooting for him when he was on the team. Did not love RJ or JP at the time, but in retrospect, have nothing really against them, and the latter seemed like a nice enough guy (or at least wanted to do some good things for Buffalo). 

 

John Fina almost knocked me down when I was at Kelly's club and afterwards gave me a dirty look, so I wasn't fond of him for a long time, but later he (and a couple other players) had a deal with the record store where I worked and he would come in and we would talk music for hours and he was engagingly friendly.   

Yeah, BJH is a good point. Forgot about that point, but was pretty redfaced about him at the time. What QB does not learn the playbook?!?!

If you look at his last 6 games of 1999 Flutie's offenses averaged close to 16 points a game, so to think Flutie would have done better than RJ is just hindsight and guessing. The reason for the Flutie hate is he was praised as the sole reason we were winning yet in reality again he was a caretaker and didn't offer an upside that RJ could have. Imagine if you will that the Bills drafted Josh Allen and then signed Josh McCown, would you want us starting McCown over Allen? Also the reports that the offense was worse under RJ is debatable, sure he took sacks but look at his last two games, the 1998 and 1999 finales. He put up 45 and 31 points respectively. 

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