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@RealKayAdams To be perfectly clear, I will absolutely be voting for Biden because I don't want to see a runaway SC and I'd prefer progressive ideas not get vetoed. But I won't be doing so enthusiastically. Pretty sure he'll win Nevada, but I think he's only got about a 35-40 percent chance of winning the GE. Republicans walk in lock step with their candidate while Democrats cannibalize their own. Too many Bernie bros are gonna sit this one out, and that's a shame, even if I get it. Classic vote against candidate X scenario. Didn't work in 2016. Probably won't work this time around.

This. The boomer black voting bloc gave us Hillary, and now Biden. That's the bottom line. Thanks, but no thanks. Bernie is BUILT for this situation. Damn shame.

Since I chimed in on Trump's poor "performance" yesterday, it's only fair to point out that he was very good in this regard today. Always slays the one dude who kept talking. Not a fan. Didn't vote for. Won't vote for him. But that was Trump being Trump. Figured he'd bounce back from yesterday's dud.

As a side not which is completely (or should be) apolitical; I think it is time to re-open the economy, especially if we're talking about March 1st. People are so conditioned to practice social distancing and wash their hands (which they should have already been doing I THINK) that the risk is inherently mitigated. We can't sustain this much longer, especially when we're seeing the numbers we're seeing. I want my mom, who's 65 with COPD, to stay at home and continue to do what she's been doing. Other than that, life is full of risk and these numbers don't justify a PROLONGED shutdown. May 1st or maybe even earlier seems perfectly reasonable.

I actually agree. And here's the deal; the media coverage right now attacking Trump for acting too late IS totally unfair. You don't shut down a country under the circumstances we faced in January and February. I think his timing was solid. On the flip side, he was really erratic today and I do not believe it was a good look. JMO. My point is simply to say that there's a disconnect between Trumps reference to Civil War death's and the rhetoric from his top surrogates from Hannity to O'Reilley to pretty much all of them. It just feels like EVERYONE has become incapable of independent thought. It is what it is, but I appreciate the HONEST response

A FEW TWEETS????? Wow. Just wow. So there is NOT a large segment of Trump's base that believe the seriousness of the virus has been dramatically exaggerated by the media and that we didn't need to go this route? Again. Wow.

Really????????? Are you a Twitter guy? Virtually all of his big time proponents like Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk have a timeline filled with tweets claiming the numbers are fake, hospitals are empty, etc. You are REALLY denying that a large percentage of Trump supporters don't believe COVID is especially serious? I mean, the seriousness of the virus is a legitimate debate as is the debate over whether or not we needed/need to shut things down. But it's willful ignorance to insinuate that it's "not a thing." I'm actually pretty stunned by these responses.

Serious question; which is it? A pandemic or a hoax. The President just said that if we hadn't taken these steps, there would have been more deaths than the civil war. Yet most of the base thinks the entire thing is a media production. I'm just not sure how those two ideas are reconciled.

You're not good at this. That's my point Joe. I'm leaving the politics aside for a moment and just noting that he wasn't nearly as harsh (or funny) as I expected in this particular press briefing. He made some good points. He said some things that stretched the truth. I'm speaking more of the theatrical standard he's set. I'm not a fan, but again leaving that alone for that moment. I AM a fan of his theatrics because he's an entertaining guy. I'm sure he'll come out much stronger very soon whether it be a rally or another PB.

I clearly don't see this the same way as the majority of the board, but that was NOT a good look for Trump. I've seen him "own" the room; many, many times. That did not happen here; at all. The Hemmingway line was good, but this was a subpar performance. He'll have some really interesting tweets later tonight.

Well, she is pretty hot. At any rate, don't fully agree on the proportionately issue, but STRONG take.

Here's the deal Rob. Imagine if an NFL wide receiver conducted himself the way Donald Trump conducts himself. He'd be EVISCERATED as a diva, malcontent, punk, thug etc. by THE VERY SAME PEOPLE who love him. You know it, I know it, OJ know it. Outside of the Fox News bubble, this is apparent; it's obvious; it's flagrant. Now I don't care if people are flamboyant, etc. I don't care if WR's have a me first attitude. I don't care about any of that. I care about RESULTS. I'm not really an emotional being per se. I'm gonna continue to live my life. I'm gonna chase money; I'm gonna chase women. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna smoke. I'm gonna believe exactly what I believe whether it fits a liberal narrative or not. But the right has been POUNDING THE TABLE about character, ethics, and morality for as long as I can remember. Now, not so much. On the flip side; prior to Trump, the left HATED the FBI. All of a sudden, they're the most important, ethical agency ever bestowed upon man. By the by, I keep hearing Trump is draining the swamp at the FBI. What exactly has he done WRT to the FBI that involves someone other than Trump, his orbit, or his political enemies? I guess that's another story. I can recognize this shape shifting for what it is regardless of who's doing the shape shifting. I don't believe Trump supporters recognize the hypocrisy THEY exhibit. So your final statement insinuating that the left is so much worse than the right just doesn't ring true. This is bigger than Trump; he's just the current President. I think we've reached a point as a society in which people cannot think for themselves. They live vicariously through Presidents, Athletes, Celebrities, etc. They join a herd and follow that herd even if it deviates from their true self, which has actually been lost somewhere along the way.

These are politicians, not voters. They've all been flogged to get in line by the rank and file. Trump's approval rating among Republicans is HISTORIC while Dems are calling their candidate a rapist and the entire Sanders wing is threatening to sit out the election. Orange Man Bad. Orange Man Good. No matter what. If you don't think there's a HUGE swatch of people that fall under BOTH of these categories, I don't think your being honest with yourself. Maybe orange man is ALWAYS good. I suppose that's a valid take. But to pretend both sides haven't twisted themselves in knots to defend a narrative since he came on the scene seems disingenuous.

Gotta chime in here. A) I recognized the mainstream left was making a huge mistake by summarily dismissing this drug simply because Trump sent out a tweet suggesting it may work. It may work. Considering no cure exists, there's absolutely no reason to dismiss a treatment that's shown promise. HOWEVER, the Dems(my party) are at war with each other over which direction the party should take. You have the Biden, Pelosi (I'm a Democrat) wing and the Bernie, AOC (Fundamental Change) wing. The latter is essentially threatening to sit this election out because they didn't get their way. Now, my assumption is that you're not a fan of either wing, but Republicans have been in lock step with Trump since day one. I suppose that's because he's great. That's fine. But Republicans ALWAYS get in line behind their candidate while Dems fight among themselves. So while MANY on the left do fit the orange man bad mantra, an equal or greater amount of those on the right live by the orange man GOOD mantra. Both parties have NPC's and they're all equally useless.

I just don't think a solution exists without (dreaded) government intervention. Not this time.