Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't think anyone honestly loves having him here. Most probably just assume the coaches aren't gonna give up on him yet. I for one would cut him and sign Hooper or Henry. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'm pretty sure they'll cut him and go for a cheaper veteran. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think Knox and Sweeney showed enough to replace him. Maybe Kroft is solid if healthy, but I can’t see him being worth his salary. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. Has anyone said they love Tyler Kroft? From anything I've read about him, people think he's a waste of money. Where are you getting this from? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 He had such a weird year with his injury but yeah I don't think he really did enough to prevent the team from looking for an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Wait, there’s Kroft love here? I’ve assumed he’s going to be fighting for a roster spot next year and is likely a cap casualty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Only Kroft love I've seen is from Bengal fans ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. The only love for Kroft I have is, I'd love to see him go.?? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Pretty decent cap savings by cutting him, with little dead cap. A nice , low risk signing by Beane that didn’t pan out. Bills should move on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, QB Bills said: Has anyone said they love Tyler Kroft? From anything I've read about him, people think he's a waste of money. Where are you getting this from? He caught the game winning TD to put us in the playoffs. What a winner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I’ll say I hate him if it helps him getting cut and the position being upgraded.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’ll say I hate him if it helps him getting cut and the position being upgraded.. I don't think they spend big on TE. They have players to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Not feeling the love here, either. Having already dumped Clay and ahead of the Draft, McB jumped on him early in FA because he’s a vet and was available with our TE cupboard completely bare. Not the case this offseason. For him to stick around, he’s gonna have to take a page from the Croom Manuscript and charm Jessica P into dating him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don't think they spend big on TE. They have players to develop. The position needs to be improved next year as I don’t see Kroft, Smith Knox & Sweeney getting it done... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: The position needs to be improved next year as I don’t see Kroft, Smith Knox & Sweeney getting it done... Why not? All 3 of our young TES have shown promise, don't forget Croom. There is no reason to spend a lot at TE. Develop your own. Knox had a very good year by rookie TE standards. He reminds me a lot of young George Kittle. Edited January 13, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) I’m confused as I think everyone agrees with you Hap. I haven’t seen any love for him or anyone high on him. Closest I’ve seen really is some people assume he will be here next year more so just because the they think the staff will give him a shot to come in healthy. Not because anyone is high on him really. Edited January 13, 2020 by Alphadawg7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why not? All 3 of our young TES have shown promise, don't forget Croom. There is no reason to spend a lot at TE. Develop your own. Knox had a very good year by rookie TE standards. He reminds me a lot of young George Kittle. Because an upgrade will be available in FA from Kroft and I think they need it... It appears you don’t agree so I guess I’ll leave it at that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think they might bring in some FA competition but I think they're hoping Knox and Sweeney both secure spots on the active list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I see a lot of people mention Henry and Hooper in the same breath. Henry is a baller, his numbers suffered as Rivers melted down this season but I’d take him way before I would Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: The only love for Kroft I have is, I'd love to see him go.?? Ouch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don’t get the love OR hate he gets the dude is a Bill and should have at least some support from us, especially since he caught the GW TD against the Pitt. until he ***** up regularly like a lee smith and his holding penalties, then I don’t see what the fuss is about either way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Was not a fan of the signing to begin with and it turned out the way I thought it would. Kroft is overpaid garbage who has done very little on the field the last couple years. His unnecessary holding penalty wiped out a crucial first down gain on a 2nd and 11 vs Texans. He is worthless. Sayonara. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'm indifferent on him and we probably move on after the draft unless we dont get a better replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think they might bring in some FA competition but I think they're hoping Knox and Sweeney both secure spots on the active list. 9 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I see a lot of people mention Henry and Hooper in the same breath. Henry is a baller, his numbers suffered as Rivers melted down this season but I’d take him way before I would Hooper. Getting Henry or Hooper would be fantastic, but I think this is more wishful thinking than reality. I agree that the staff is hedging their bets on Knox & Sweeney to be the Tight End duo for the future. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Guilty.... I live in Cincy and applauded the signing and even tried to convince people on this board that Kroft was legit. I was sorely disappointed. Watching him play in a Bills Uni, he looked like a 10 year old trying to catch a grasshopper. Probably had more penalty yards than actual receiving yards. One TD catch is pretty much the only thing right he did all year. We don't need "maybe he'll end up ok" kind of guys. Dump his ass and get winners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Guys... he is 6-6 250. In 2017 he had 42 catches and 7 TDs he ideally would be that red zone jump up pass catcher in betwern the numbers. Could be used in corner faderoutes too. id hold onto him and utilize them. i have seen other teams do this but not the Bills...on 3rd and goal with 5+ yds the q.v. drop back and throws high around the goal posts receivers leap to catch the ball and get feat down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2019 for the Bills 6.7 million dollars for 6 catches 74 yards 1 td. 2018 Bengals 2 million dollars for 4 catches 36 yards 0 td Bills were suckers giving this guy 6 million per. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why not? All 3 of our young TES have shown promise, don't forget Croom. There is no reason to spend a lot at TE. Develop your own. Knox had a very good year by rookie TE standards. He reminds me a lot of young George Kittle. Did you see the article about Knox, saying he can't wait to get started training for next season? It's very encouraging. He plans to train with Josh. I'm excited to see Knox's development! Sweeney, too, but Knox is a special talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I liked the signing. I always thought his true value was a high end #2 but on a team sorely needing a vet I thought he provided decent upside. But the injuries have always been a legit concern and he basically missed the whole offseason and half if the season which definitely hurt him in terms of being up to speed and by the time he was they had a higher upside guy in the spot in Knox. At this point I don't see any way he is here next year or any reason why he should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 What you're missing is that we aren't in "love" with Kroft. He's an average NFL TE and a capable rotation guy. We just drafted Knox and Sweeney who have shown potential, so several other positions are higher priority like RT, WR, DE, RG, CB and LB. Heck, if we just signed or drafted an avg WR then added 2 major studs on the OL, ou offense would be so much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I wish he was your dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 With BoyToy coming back from IR, Pufnstuf should be gone next year. The TD in PIT was the only play Pufnstuf put up all season. Not worth the do re mi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Getting Henry or Hooper would be fantastic, but I think this is more wishful thinking than reality. I agree that the staff is hedging their bets on Knox & Sweeney to be the Tight End duo for the future. We shall see. Agreed Mark on the second part. I don’t know what they are thinking for a third pick whether in free agency or the draft. Very rarely does a top flight TE come available in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. If we have been giving him love I for one hope you despise me. I have never seen anyone say anything about Kroft needing playing time let aone wanting him here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. No Hap is right, I’ve heard the coaching staff speak in glowing terms of Tyler. I can’t remember who, but one of the best reporters was answering a question whether the Bills consider signing ERIC Ebron this offseason. He responded by saying the Bills like what they have in the TE room and like what Kroft brings. I haven’t been overly impressed with Kroft but from what I’ve read, it sounds like they might want to give him another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yeah, even I don't get the Jason Croom and Jessica P love story. Can someone please explain this to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I honestly have no idea there was a lot of Tyler Kroft love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I like his game, but there’s no point keeping him because we don’t use him in the pass game. His one good year in 17 basically he was a 10 yard and under check down beast for dalton. We don’t do that. Watching Fells on Houston is similar to what we could do with Kroft. Send him out and box out defenders on short routes for short gains or in the red zone. I don’t think I’ve ever seen us do that. So no point paying him at this salary to be an occasional blocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE. I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising? He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers. He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season. So he kind of had one good year in 2017. When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me. What am I missing? Explain the Kroft love to me. I, for one, think he sucks. And if we're "set at TE," then Beane isn't doing his job. UNLESS, McDermott can eat some humble pie and put Sweeney on the field. From what I saw last year, he had the most upside of all 50 of our tight ends. And don't forget Jason Pegula. Anyway .. Kroft was swing and a whiff. I think he's worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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