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Can someone explain the Tyler Kroft love to me?

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Guilty.... I live in Cincy and applauded the signing and even tried to convince people on this board that Kroft was legit. I was sorely disappointed. 

Watching him play in a Bills Uni, he looked like a 10 year old trying to catch a grasshopper. Probably had more penalty yards than actual receiving yards. 

One TD catch is pretty much the only thing right he did all year. 

 

We don't need "maybe he'll end up ok" kind of guys. Dump his ass and get winners.

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Guys...

 

he is 6-6 250.  

 

In 2017  he had 42 catches and 7 TDs

 

he ideally would be that red zone jump up pass catcher in betwern the numbers.  Could be used in corner faderoutes too.

 

id hold onto him and utilize them.

 

i have seen other teams do this but not the Bills...on 3rd and goal with 5+ yds the q.v. drop back and throws high around the goal posts receivers leap to catch the ball and get feat down.

 

 

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2019 for the Bills 6.7 million dollars for 6 catches 74 yards 1 td.

2018 Bengals 2 million dollars for 4 catches 36 yards 0 td

 

Bills were suckers giving this guy 6 million per. Time to move on.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why not? All 3 of our young TES have shown promise, don't forget Croom. There is no reason to spend a lot at TE. Develop your own. 

 

Knox had a very good year by rookie TE standards. He reminds me a lot of young George Kittle. 

 

 

 

Did you see the article about Knox, saying he can't wait to get started training for next season? It's very encouraging. He plans to train with Josh.

 

I'm excited to see Knox's development!

 

Sweeney, too, but Knox is a special talent.

 

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I liked the signing. I always thought his true value was a high end #2 but on a team sorely needing a vet I thought he provided decent upside. But the injuries have always been a legit concern and he basically missed the whole offseason and half if the season which definitely hurt him in terms of being up to speed and by the time he was they had a higher upside guy in the spot in Knox. 

 

At this point I don't see any way he is here next year or any reason why he should be. 

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What you're missing is that we aren't in "love" with Kroft. He's an average NFL TE and a capable rotation guy. We just drafted Knox and Sweeney who have shown potential, so several other positions are higher priority like RT, WR, DE, RG, CB and LB. Heck, if we just signed or drafted an avg WR then added 2 major studs on the OL, ou offense would be so much better.

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I wish he was your dad

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With BoyToy coming back from IR, Pufnstuf should be gone next year.  The TD in PIT was the only play Pufnstuf put up all season.  Not worth the do re mi.

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4 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

 

Getting Henry or Hooper would be fantastic, but I think this is more wishful thinking than reality.

 

I agree that the staff is hedging their bets on Knox & Sweeney to be the Tight End duo for the future.

 

We shall see.


Agreed Mark on the second part.  I don’t know what they are thinking for a third pick whether in free agency or the draft.  Very rarely does a top flight TE come available in FA.

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6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE.

 

I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising?

 

He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers.  He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season.

 

So he kind of had one good year in 2017.  When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me.

 

What am I missing?  Explain the Kroft love to me.

If we have been giving him love I for one hope you despise me. I have never seen anyone say anything about Kroft needing playing time let aone wanting him here.

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6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE.

 

I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising?

 

He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers.  He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season.

 

So he kind of had one good year in 2017.  When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me.

 

What am I missing?  Explain the Kroft love to me.


No Hap is right, I’ve heard the coaching staff speak in glowing terms of Tyler.  I can’t remember who, but one of the best reporters was answering a question whether the Bills consider signing ERIC Ebron this offseason.

 

He responded by saying the Bills like what they have in the TE room and like what Kroft brings.

 

I haven’t been overly impressed with Kroft but from

what I’ve read, it sounds like they might want to give him another year 

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Yeah, even I don't get the Jason Croom and Jessica P love story. Can someone please explain this to me?

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I like his game, but there’s no point keeping him because we don’t use him in the pass game. His one good year in 17 basically he was a 10 yard and under check down beast for dalton. We don’t do that. Watching Fells on Houston is similar to what we could do with Kroft. Send him out and box out defenders on short routes for short gains or in the red zone. I don’t think I’ve ever seen us do that. So no point paying him at this salary to be an occasional blocker 

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6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE.

 

I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising?

 

He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers.  He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season.

 

So he kind of had one good year in 2017.  When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me.

 

What am I missing?  Explain the Kroft love to me.

 

I, for one, think he sucks.

 

And if we're "set at TE," then Beane isn't doing his job.  UNLESS, McDermott can eat some humble pie and put Sweeney on the field.  From what I saw last year, he had the most upside of all 50 of our tight ends.  And don't forget Jason Pegula.

 

Anyway .. Kroft was swing and a whiff.  I think he's worthless.

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He’s trash but probably a good guy.

 

 Honestly, the TE position is the least of my worries. I like the 4-5 we have going to camp but won’t be sad if they let Kroft go.

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6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why not? All 3 of our young TES have shown promise, don't forget Croom. There is no reason to spend a lot at TE. Develop your own. 

 

Knox had a very good year by rookie TE standards. He reminds me a lot of young George Kittle. 

 

 

 

 

Those TE's, apart from Croom, were a big part of why we were second in the league in dropped passes. I would have no problem adding a guy like Cole Kmet in the draft rather than hoping, like we did with Zay Jones, that experience will cure our butter-fingered TE's. I think Knox might be the only one of them that might develop into a good pass catcher as he had some great catches to offset his drops.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

Those TE's, apart from Croom, were a big part of why we were second in the league in dropped passes. I would have no problem adding a guy like Cole Kmet in the draft rather than hoping, like we did with Zay Jones, that experience will cure our butter-fingered TE's. I think Knox might be the only one of them that might develop into a good pass catcher as he had some great catches to offset his drops.

 

 

I don't hate the idea of drafting a TE. I hate the idea of spending big money on a TE in free agency.

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7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I see people assuming we’ll keep him and that we’re kind of set at TE.

 

I’d like to understand the Tyler Kroft love - what do people see in him that’s promising?

 

He kind of had an uninspiring college career at Rutgers.  He backed up Tyler Eifert with the Bengals, did some good stuff in 2017 after Eifert got hurt, then broke his own foot in 2018 and again in 2019 off-season.

 

So he kind of had one good year in 2017.  When given a chance to “show out” this season, he’s seeemd decidedly “meh” to me.

 

What am I missing?  Explain the Kroft love to me.

 

It must be those bottles of Josh wine you keep drinking 

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I haven't seen much Tyler Kroft love on this board.  Most consider him very replaceable.

People seem to be more excited about our younger guys with Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney.

 

The problem with Tight End this year, is that replacement options look pretty weak.  The highest ranked draft options are considered late Day 2 picks.  The position is not strong or deep this year.  Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper are the best Free Agent options on the market.  Henry has been very good at times, but has even more injury questions than Kroft.  The more I think about it, Hooper would be nice to pair with Knox.  But there is a good chance Atlanta doesn't let him even hit the market.

 

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Last season we didn't have any tight ends other than croom as we approached free agency.. so they signed him here.  Added some more in draft. He broke his foot and was largely a miss here. 

 

However when healthy he's probably either the best or 2nd best TE on the roster.  Don't cut him and replace with smith/Sweeney, that's just creating cap space to create cap space.

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There’s little love for him now, but some were excited when he signed here (benefit of doubt to org, I get that).  I was not a fan.  It was baffling why the Bills (or anyone else) would overpay him that much.  He’s done so little in his career.  I know we were in a tight spot at TE, but WOW.  We massively overpaid for a backup level TE.  Here’s hoping we move on by the time his roster bonus is due in March. 

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Knox, Sweeney, Croom, and who, do we need four TEs? I would think the coach and GM see these three as the TE room. With Kroft and Smith we have Five total to choose from, minimum two gotta find a new home. 

 

Go Bills!!!

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By the time he got on the field this season he looked - how do I say it - fat.  I don’t think he was ever in shape this year, likely because of the injury.  That’s not an excuse by the way.  I’d certainly cut bait this offseason.

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