Punching Bag Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No reason for Browns to release him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von… Unlikely that the Browns would release him. His salary for the last game is $73k and he will net the Browns a comp pick down the line. He won’t be on the active roster for the last game so that will cost him $44k in per game roster bonus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) Clowney's career has been so strange. Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind. In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season. Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation. Edited January 6, 2023 by Logic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: Ya I'm tripping. He can decline a waiver right? The team claiming him would have his rights until the end of his contract, which is the end of the current league year in March. They couldn’t force him to play though. So either a team he wants to play for would claim him and he’d play for that team or a team he doesn’t want to play for would claim him to block him from playing elsewhere. So he’d never make it to a team like the Bills. Teams high on the waver wire would just claim him to keep him from going to a top seed.  It’s a moot point anyway. The Browns will keep him on their roster this last week for the comp pick. 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Clowney's career has been so strange. Came into the league being touted as a generation prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind. In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season. Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation. Yeah. He has been a good player, just not close to what you’d expect from an edge that went #1 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 TBD and Clowney threads: Â 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:  We rotate our DE's a lot. We aren't getting great production there outside of Rosseau and Shaq in the run game. I would think Clowney would give us more than Boogie at this point. Our interior is good.  AJE has 7 sacks and 2 forced fumbles along w/ 5 tipped passes. Pretty decent production for a guy that’s in for like 30% of snaps. I hope he continues to improve. Basham is bordering on bust IMO, but that’s fine as long as Rousseau continues to improve. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, Logic said: Clowney's career has been so strange. Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind. In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season. Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation. Â Â Clowney was already a legend as a HS recruit. Â Â Players like that don't have to earn a lot of stripes.........they just gotta' flash the talent a bit too confirm to scouts what they saw. Â People don't realize just how closely NFL personnel people follow recruiting........especially the road scout types like Doug Whaley.........I think that Cyrus Kouandjio and Sammy Watkins picks were heavily influenced by them being 5 star recruits from the same class as Clowney. Â Â 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, Limeaid said: No reason for Browns to release him now.  No reason not to, if he requests it. Sometimes teams do things to appease agents they need to work with on other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: He's basically Shaq Lawson. So you're saying we have Clowney at home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So you're saying we have Clowney at home. more or less. He's an upgrade but the same kind of guy. He's not a Miller replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: He's basically Shaq Lawson. Yeah but with talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 GIT 'R' DUNNNNNNN!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Yeah but with talent. now you got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 His last name fits him perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von…  Isn't this his excuse everywhere he flames out?  I want to be somewhere that believes in me?  At some point, his self belief needs to show up on the field and he needs to earn the belief of his peers and coaches.   He has continuously under performed to expectations, and GROSSLY under performed to he value he places on himself that he tried (and failed) to secure in the open market now multiple times.   He isn't a bad player, but he also isn't what he thinks he is.  And clearly he has not been enduring himself to teams, coaches, or locker rooms given that he keeps wearing out his welcome and then doesn't find much of a market for himself.   Pass...this isn't the kind of energy/personality this locker room needs right now, and quite frankly he isn't doing anything Shaq Lawson can't do who has had a very good season and deserves all the minutes he gets on the field.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Another failed Cleveland player, what a surprise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Logic said: Clowney's career has been so strange. Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind. In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season. Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation. I think the sack totals are slightly deceiving in that he had a number of seasons where he racked up very impressive tackles for loss numbers. He was second in the league in that category in 2017, 7th in 2016, and 9th in 2018. Those were his three final seasons in Houston. He is a force to be reckoned with vs the run.  He was pretty good in Cleveland last season - 9 sacks, 19 qb hits, 11 TFLs, and two forced fumbles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von… Wow that would be amazing but I don’t think he would even make it to us on waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: So you're saying we have Clowney at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: He's basically Shaq Lawson. Lawson couldn’t hit a 4.5 40 on rollerblades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Lawson couldn’t hit a 4.5 40 on rollerblades I'm aware that Clowney is a superior player but he fills the same role of a run stopping specialist with rotational pass rush ability. Clowney is better than lawson at both of those things, but it's a role we already have filled. I wouldn't mind having him around but he doesn't add a unique element like say Miller that screams GO GET HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 The Jadeveon Clowney-Browns relationship seems to have reached the point of "irreconcialable differences." I'm wondering if the Bills should sniff around about his availabilty for next season. My concern: Clowney seems to be miffed that the defense isn't built around his abilities, which suggests a level of ego that wouldn't fit in with the Bills' culture. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) Edited January 6, 2023 by The Wiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 C’mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Haha, this thread and one hit is why he somehow keeps getting contracts. He is the Sam Bradford of DEs. A dime a dozen player who gets treated like he is some star. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I’ve heard of him!  No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No!!!!! But I am worried about the young guys we got none of them have really stepped up to be that guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Nay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: No.  Correct. The clue’s in his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 The days of the Bills taking scraps off of everyone else's trash heaps are thankfully behind us. No more Reggie Bush, Shawne Merriman, AJ McCarron, Mario Williams, Vince Young, Matt Leinert or other has-beens or never-weres. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Hahahahahahaha...no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I'm sensing a trend here. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, this thread and one hit is why he somehow keeps getting contracts. He is the Sam Bradford of DEs. A dime a dozen player who gets treated like he is some star.  ….largely because of one play in college when he went completely unblocked. He’s got some Shaq Lawson in him, solid in ways but nothing spectacular and he seems to think he deserves star money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No- he peaked at a slightly better version of Epenesa and is now sliding. He would be our 5th DEÂ and he thinks he is a #1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: You can do that, but it's silly from an objective perspective. He's undeniably a better player and would be useful. I think he provides more consistency than Epenesa. Kingsley is actually a better player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 If we sign Clowney, how can we sign OBJ ? 🤑 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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