Allen playing!

[BillsFan130]

55 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

There was never an injury. Media made it up.

He didn't practice wednesday or Thurday and was limited friday.

 

Why would the Bills sit him out of preparation for the vikings if the media made it up?

[Scott7975]

53 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

So anytime a player holds his arm he is injured?

 

He had A injury but it was probably not as severe as the media speculation about it was.  My guess is mostly nerve pinching that may have been throughout the week with swelling or something. He may even have some micro tearing or something that he is going to tough out.  

 

Nobody knows what injury he has/had except the people around Josh and his doctors. Josh had something though.  He didnt practice all week long.  He had taping and a compression sleeve type thing for his arm.  This isnt staged crap to try and fool the Vikings.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson said:

So anytime a player holds his arm he is injured?

Joe that’s weak have you ever seen Josh Allen do that whenever he wasn’t actually injured

[HappyDays]

Adam Schefter says he is starting:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35015747/sources-bills-josh-allen-active-expected-start-vs-vikings

 

Quote

Sources: Bills' Josh Allen to be active, expected to start vs. Vikings

 

Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen will be active Sunday despite his ulnar collateral ligament injury and the belief is he will start against the Minnesota Vikings, sources told ESPN on Saturday.

 

Bills officials, however, have been tight-lipped all week and have declined to reveal who is starting and want to keep it secret until after Sunday's NFL actives/inactives list is released at 11:30 am ET. Bills officials spent intensive time this past week leaning on and listening to their doctors and other arm specialists, and the team was reassured that Allen is not at any added risk to make the injury worse if he plays Sunday against the Vikings, sources said.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Imagine Josh Allen backing up Keenum. Lol. No chance. Fans would start chanting Josh’s name after 1 throw.

[Starr Almighty]

If they would of leaked this x-ray of Josh's elbow earlier in the week. We would of all known he was going to play 

[davefan66]

I hope this means his elbow injury isn’t as bad as first reported.  
 

Hopefully, the training staff vetted the injury well enough.  I hope Josh isn’t pushing himself too hard.

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

He didn't practice wednesday or Thurday and was limited friday.

 

Why would the Bills sit him out of preparation for the vikings if the media made it up?

To psyche Minny out. Take the coverage off the Jets loss.  Get the rest of team motivated.

 

Notice Spencer Brown is back. His back up was the one that got beat on the injury.

 

Or... Josh could have went the Jim Kelly route when he angrily called out his OLine, namely Ballard...  That's not JA17's style. Going the more passive aggressive route with the team is better here, IMO.

 

Maybe coming this close to getting their dear leader killed will get the team's mind right.

 

Maybe this motivates the team?

 

They ain't the "Bickering Bills" anymore...

[Matt_In_NH]

5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

There was never an injury. Media made it up.

Another conspiracy!

[Captain Hindsight]

11 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I was really hoping for Keenum 

He was finally going to out for undercover

[Doc Brown]

 

 

[RunTheBall]

He never had a UCL sprain, or if he did it was Grade 1 which is micro-tearing and no loss of stability.

The media speculation went wild and McD let them do so for strategic reasons.

 

I think this was all Ulnar nerve neuropraxia which basically means Allen really whacked his funny bone.

 

Look at the evidence 1 - no direct hit on the elbow, it was a torque injury when he was moving the arm forward. The ulnar nerve runs on the inside of the elbow and gets stretched in that position so when he took the shot it got stretched even more

 

2 - the physical evidence during the game showed Allen shaking his arm and clenching his fist. Just like when you bang your funny bone and the pain shoots down the nerve into the hand

 

3 - He dirted the first throw after the hit. That’s because he couldn’t grip the ball (the ulnar supplied a lot of the muscle in the palm along with pinky finger and half the ring finger),

 

4 - On the next throw he uncorked a BOMB that hit Gabe Mr Inconsistency Davis right in the dome. He got the nerve function back

 

So what happens when you really whack the funny bone? It hurts like hell, you can get some inflammation and basically need to rest the arm, which JA did by not practicing. Doesn’t hurt that he’s a f’n cyborg and heals fast.

 

So, Dr. Chao, “Doctor” Kyle Trimble, Dr. Thighdoc or whatever were all 100% speculation based on nothing but erroneous media reports because the Bills revealed NOTHING. That’s some Belichik level gamesmanship and kudos to McD for keeping it quiet while it played out.

 

[Simon Says]

14 hours ago, Chicagobills said:

Doesn't mean he’s playing he could be emergency backup tomorrow 

Or,just the "regular" backup. I don't even know if the NFL allows the 3rd,emergency QB designation.  

[ProcessTruster]

well.... there you go

 

go bills

[nucci]

12 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

Or,just the "regular" backup. I don't even know if the NFL allows the 3rd,emergency QB designation.  

you think Allen will be in uniform , active for the game and be the backup? Surely you can't be serious

[finn]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Notice Spencer Brown is back. His back up was the one that got beat on the injury.

 

Brown would probably have been beat, too. Huff's speed is crazy. Quessenberry needed help, and so would have Brown, whose pass protection is not a strong suit, at least not yet. 

[Clark Rotary]

 

 

[CoudyBills]

7 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Yeah that’s why Josh Allen was holding his arm

There is a difference between hurt and injured.

[gtw3]

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

It took all the focus away from how terrible they all were vs the Jets

 

No reporters were asking anyone why they let The Jets offense look fully functional for the first time under Zach Wilson.  
 

Or why we can’t run the ball.

 

 

So a chance to regroup, win, and move along.  

McD playing 4d chess with the press

[stevewin]

10 hours ago, Aesop said:

 

Dr Leo Spaceman prior to the Tommy John surgery:

Edited November 13, 2022 by stevewin

[LyndonvilleBill]

Have a feeling we will have our most Holding penalties called in this game then we have had so far this season. Protect Josh at all costs. If You are getting beat, grab the guy. Do NOT let them get to to Josh! No matter what! 😉

[billybob71]

As cautious and level headed as McBeane have been with injuries, I find it funny the few  takes and comments Ive seen and read that Bills are being reckless starting Allen. I guess alot of the misinformation is due to the secrecy they operated with all week. Some in the media and some fans like to think they are all knowing, but most of their talking points and predictions are  wild speculation and at best educated guesses. 

[Fleezoid]

[vincec]

15 hours ago, NewEra said:

I don’t see why they would have him be the backup.  If he’s injured enough to not to start, he should be injured enough to not to be backup.  

jmo

 

It could also be that they think Allen at 80% is better than Barkley at 100%.

[muppy]

[Dr. K]

15 hours ago, Dr. K said:

Start Keenum. Play Allen only if you have to. 

I don’t say this because I think it’s a good idea. If Allen is injured (and I think he is) he should be inactive. I don’t really understand what they are doing.

[CNYfan]

I also hope we aren't pulling a RG3 on this.  Ten years of Josh is more important than the next 3 or 4 weeks.  

[Chaos]

16 minutes ago, vincec said:

It could also be that they think Allen at 80% is better than Barkley at 100%.

you seem to miss the point. Allen at 80% is also better than Keenum at 100%.  Injury risk is a binary decision. He either is at higher risk, or he is not. If it is higher risk, you don't put him in to sub.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Obviously there can’t be must risk to make this injury worse by common game events. The way McDermott is, no chance he’s out there without being super cautious. It actually is something I can’t stand about our game day roster management but whatever. The thing that is annoying is the way people speak about the fear of this thing being a catastrophic long term risk…..it’s football. Even when playing 100% healthy, in “brand new condition” you are risking your career on every snap. Literally any play, healthy or not could be it. Don’t worry about 5 years down the road because any play can be the last one. No future is certain. People play this game with wreck less abandon because that’s what you have to do. If the DR says he’s good, then let’s go. 

[muppy]

[NewEra]

38 minutes ago, vincec said:

It could also be that they think Allen at 80% is better than Barkley at 100%.

Allen @ 80% is better than Keenum @ 💯 

 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Allen @ 80% is better than Keenum @ 💯 

 

 

 

 

Allen unable to throw is still better lol

[NewEra]

Just now, FireChans said:

Allen unable to throw is still better lol

You ain’t lying!

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, billybob71 said:

As cautious and level headed as McBeane have been with injuries, I find it funny the few  takes and comments Ive seen and read that Bills are being reckless starting Allen. I guess alot of the misinformation is due to the secrecy they operated with all week. Some in the media and some fans like to think they are all knowing, but most of their talking points and predictions are  wild speculation and at best educated guesses. 

It's like if there was video of a player getting hit in the leg - and a bunch of internet doctors start crying - "It's his knee!  Looks like ACL!  Could be out a year!" - when in fact after examination by the actual team doctors they determine it's just a deep thigh bruise.  Would people be crying "Don't jeapordize his career!" if they knew what the real doctors knew - that there was zero long term risk related to the injury if the player plays

Edited November 13, 2022 by stevewin

[BillsFan130]

4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

To psyche Minny out. Take the coverage off the Jets loss.  Get the rest of team motivated.

 

Notice Spencer Brown is back. His back up was the one that got beat on the injury.

 

Or... Josh could have went the Jim Kelly route when he angrily called out his OLine, namely Ballard...  That's not JA17's style. Going the more passive aggressive route with the team is better here, IMO.

 

Maybe coming this close to getting their dear leader killed will get the team's mind right.

 

Maybe this motivates the team?

 

They ain't the "Bickering Bills" anymore...

I don’t think the bills would hold Josh out of practice just to psyche Minnesota up.

 

It is a disadvantage to not be getting the reps in at practice/preparing for the opponent.

 

Especially after a bad offensive performance, I think they probably wanted to get as many reps as possible 

[Tierlifer]

1 hour ago, billybob71 said:

As cautious and level headed as McBeane have been with injuries, I find it funny the few  takes and comments Ive seen and read that Bills are being reckless starting Allen. I guess alot of the misinformation is due to the secrecy they operated with all week. Some in the media and some fans like to think they are all knowing, but most of their talking points and predictions are  wild speculation and at best educated guesses. 

Their narratives weren’t fitting with their opinions 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Dr. K said:

I don’t say this because I think it’s a good idea. If Allen is injured (and I think he is) he should be inactive. I don’t really understand what they are doing.

If qbs didn’t play with injuries that are as minor as Josh’s probably is I don’t think they’d ever play 

 

I think some nfl reporters took that quote from the bills ‘we fear he has a sprained ucl’ after the jets game and ran with it.  There’s no actual evidence that the injury is remotely serious 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

There is a difference between hurt and injured.

There’s also a big difference between wishful thinking and reality

[Beast]

If he’s healthy enough to dress he’s healthy enough to play. And play he will.

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I don’t think the bills would hold Josh out of practice just to psyche Minnesota up.

 

It is a disadvantage to not be getting the reps in at practice/preparing for the opponent.

 

Especially after a bad offensive performance, I think they probably wanted to get as many reps as possible 

In most other QB cases, I would probably agree. They need the physical reps and timing. But, with Josh, I don't believe he needed the physical reps as much as the mental reps this week.