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It was a tough listen on only audio as it was hard to follow along, but probably way better on youtube. Thanks for sharing

It hasn't worked out so far, but he said Elam was their only first round grade left so he wanted to secure him. I don't have an issue with that logic, just Elam hasn't worked out yet unfortunately. If Kincaid becomes a pro bowl tight end for 10 years, no one is going to care about Beane trading a 4th round pick to get him

Fair points. i guess until I see it, I won't put too much realistic thought into it. But you raise fair points

I'm talking about In the first round

Exactly this^. I listen to joe marinos podcast and a lot of his talks are about BB trading back. Just seems to be a waste of time talking about it a lot, as history has shown time after time he is probably going to trade up a few spots to get one of his first round graded players.

I still don't see Beane trading back. If anything I think he trades up as he has shown to do that a lot in the past. Good post, enjoyed reading this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-13240529/amp/Brittany-Mahomes-reveals-husband-Patrick-ice-creams-quarterback-Chiefs.html If a story like This^ came out about Josh, you would absolutely lose your shi*

I think if they cut him, they save around 5 mil next year. i could be wrong, but Im pretty sure I heard that somewhere

You're right as there were definitely multiple factors. But at the same time I think it's a great opportunity to reset the cap a bit starting next year He's not going to be cheaper than Diggs. He will get around 23-25 a year, plus got to give up big assets to get him. Draft one in the 1st round and you have cost control for 5 years

But when is the trial really going to be though, in a few years? He will get a suspension but I would bet a lot of money he comes back at some point in 2024

If you don't watch hockey playoffs sir, you are missing out. Especially the 1st round- Absolutely wild

Move up to low 20s and get Thomas if he's still there. If he's not, maybe trade up a couple spots to get your guy so teams like KC don't leap frog you

Ok - It sounds like your argument is, Mahomes wasn't as good statically, but it wasn't his fault. I am not even denying that a lot of that isn't true as he clearly didn't have the talent now compared to his mvp seasons But it's also a hard argument to say "he's better" when nothing shows that. Anyways we will agree to disagree. Have a good night man

What in gods name are you talking about? 😂 You are arguing that Brady had a bad year in 2019 and got way better in 2020? 1. He went to a COMPLETELY different passing system with completely different players and a different TEAM. The variability is of course going to be massive as it's comparing apples to oranges. Perkins offence to Air raid. 2. Great QBs can have down years. Great players in any sports can have down years. Not "every year in linear". Are you that naive that you're saying it's impossible for Mahomes to have a slightly down year compared to his usual MVP self? Even though stats and advanced stats show that it was the case? Horrible comparison with the Tom Brady situation by the way. But nice try

What is your Brady argument? And what does that have anything to do with Mahomes in the point we are discussing? We are talking about Mahomes. Not Brady.. Your argument is Mahomes is getting better. Yet nothing backs up what you're saying. So how does Tom Brady factor into any of that?^

I gave you actual stats. Advanced stats. Nothing you are saying supports your argument that Mahomes is getting better. You are obviously in the camp that Mahomes can't do any wrong no matter what the numbers say because right now your argument is "trust me bro" with nothing to back up what you're claiming. So there's really no point arguing anymore . I wish we can pin this post lol. Very well said

You're cherry picking a stat or two instead of factoring in the whole picture . I posted a stat that he was graded higher in 2018 compared to 2023. 100 percent. I can't stand the "Mahomes is the best cause he wins SB argument". It's so lazy If people say Mahomes is better than Josh, that's fair of course. But to use the SB argument is extremely lazy

Ahh using the "Mahomes is getting better cause his team is winning SBs argument". It was only a matter of time before someone used that lazy argument. I didn't know Mahomes and Josh played individual sports. I thought football was a 53 man team game, but what do I know.

But there's just nothing to support your argument that Mahomes is getting better. Actual stats. Advanced stats. Nothing. All great QBs have great stats buddy lol. It would be foolish not to factor in stats. Mahomes actual stats are way worse. And his advanced stats are worse since 2018. So I really don't know what you wanna argue- If you want straw at things like "Toney caused an INT or two " compared to all data im saying here, that's a poor hill to die on and you have your mind made up so not much saying more

He had more turnovers last year compared to the previous great ones. So I am not sure that would fit the "he's taking what the defence is giving him" narrative.

I'm not denying Mahomes isn't great, that's not what I'm saying. But I am saying Mahomes isn't "better" now than a few years ago when he was winning MVPs and even SBs

If that's PFF I'm sorry I can't put much stock into those. If you're a PFF guy, they have Josh as the number 1 QB. (if those stats are PfF) Here are actual stats that aren't over analyzed by nerds 👇 Mahomes 2018 52 TDS, 12 picks, 5300 total yards, 114 rating 2023- 4572, 27 TDS, 14 picks, 92 rating Josh 2020- 5000 yards, 45 TDs, 10 INTs, 107 rating 2023- 44 TDS, 4900 yards, 44 TDS, 18 INTs, 92 rating again I get it, it's not all stats. But it's like come on man... Mahomes stats are wayyy worse where Josh's took a slight dip. Stats don't tell the whole story, but they need to be factored in. Especially when there are massive dips in each category. PFF also had a higher overall grade on Mahomes in 2018 compared to 2023, so if you want to go the "advanced stats " route, your argument wouldn't hold up there

No , please read my original message where I said it's not all stats. But stats do have to be involved to a certain degree But 50 plus TdS to 27 last year and you say he's improved? Thats almost a 50 percent drop off. Not too mention less yards and more turnovers. I think you have to bring something more to the table opposed to just "he plays better in the system" which is a pretty subjective argument

I definitely agree with most of that, but I'm not sure how you can say he's improved overall. I am not saying he got worse as he set the bar ridiculously high. But improved from His MVP seasons? No way IMO. He had 27 TDs last season. Teams play Josh the same they play Mahomes for the most part and Josh had 44