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Ya that's a fair assessment. I just don't think he's been bust level bad. But I think you stating he played like a 3rd round pick is probably the right assessment

You think Hairston was that bad? He had some inconsistencies for sure, but I also thought he had some really good moments and has some good potential. I know PFF isn't great... But for perspective he ranked 34th out of 114 for cornerbacks. Health is the biggest concern for him IMO. On Hamlin? 100 percent agree with you on that one lol

He was 3rd in MVP voting in 2025. Honest question- Do you expect him to win MVP every year and never to have an "off" playoff game? He wasn;t great against Denver. But at the end of the day the offence scored a lot of points and left the field with 4 minutes left with a 4 point lead. If someone told me the Bills got 27 points at denver and were up 4 with 4 to go, I don't know about you but I sign up for that every time.

I do agree that the players got older towards the end which was "part" of the downfall. (Hyde and Poyer being the big ones) But I think another big issue was lack of scheme adjustment. 2018-2022, in some ways, Mcdermott was a step ahead of the NFL. Playing 2 deep safeties, living in nickel, taking away the big play, inviting the run, etc. Which was great to stop the heavy 10-11 personnel teams who would throw it 35-40 times a game. The problem? Teams adapted to more 12 and 13 personnel, ran a lot more, and the Bills didn't adjust nearly enough. They kept light boxes and kept signing and drafting undersized guys. (Bernard as the prime example) So to me it totally makes sense why and how the defences were really good early on in the Mcdermott era, and then started to regress the last few years

Throw in Shaq Lawson and I would do it in a heart beat..

He doesn't fit the prototypical QB type like a Joe burrow, Tom Brady, Peyton manning etc. But he's a damn good QB. There's a reason why he's won 2 MVPs and was runner up on another one. Unconventional QB, but it works . I would even argue Josh and Mahomes are not your prototypical QBs either. (Although, not as unconventional as Lamar of course)

I respect your opinion. Where we differ is I just don't take Pegulas statement as a "fact". The farthest thing from actually . Whether you're right or I'm right, Pegula would never admit Josh Allen had a hand in getting rid of McDermott as that would be completely throwing Josh under the bus.

For real? You believe every single thing that NFL owners and GMs say? To Not throw your star player under the bus is not a conspiracy lol . It should be common sense that he would never throw Josh under the bus like that, regardless if you believe Pegula made the call with Josh's approval or not

Pegula: "We asked Josh if he wanted McDermott canned and he said ya". Like they would ever throw Josh under the bus like that lol. Of course they are lying

Haha you have absolutely no idea if he did or did not consult with Josh, unless you were in that room. We can have differences in opinion. But saying definite lines like "he did" or "didn't", is the one thing that's 100 percent wrong in these discussions as no one knows.

We will agree to disagree with the first point. But I strongly disagree with your last line about throwing it deep enough that only your receiver can make a play on it as that's just too risky. The cardinal rule of a deep ball is you don't overthrow it . It's like in baseball, never be the 2nd out at 3rd base. You watch enough nfl football im sure , and I'm sure you would even agree that under thrown balls result in DPI at an insanely high clip in the NFL. If you overthrow it, you completely take that out of the equation Point is: Perfect throw is what you want of course . But slightly under thrown always trumps slightly over thrown

https://youtu.be/-LIOhWOD-X8?si=S4C17u0H1x8hjW4g Cooks had what, at most a quarter step on him? What you CANT do there is overthrow it. Cooks didn't even slow down much if you watch that clip again and it would have taken an insane throw to hit him in stride without the defender knocking it down . The throw wasn't "perfect". But to say the throw was not very good is crazy to me. It was a hair under thrown 40 yards down the field, and you always take slightly under thrown vs over thrown because of the potential of a flag and to give your receiver a chance

That's fair then and I got no deflection. There are just a lot of posters who put a lot of blame to our offence in our playoffs. So maybe I projected my post onto you a bit. If you acknowledge (which it looks like you have) that the defence has been by far the biggest reason this team hasn't gotten to a Super Bowl, then we got no disagreement . I will say though. Even though the offence hasn't been the most clutch to your point, I still don't put much blame on them. I go back to the hockey analogy. If you score 6 goals but your goalie lets up 6, and you aren't "clutch" getting the go ahead 7th goal? It's hard for me to blame the offence

Ok fair. But your last line: "The D has given the O it's opportunities ". The offence carries the vast majority of these playoff games. It's like a goalie in hockey letting up 6 goals and then makes a save at the end and saying: "This game is not on me now, I made a save and I've given you an opportunity ". Meanwhile... By far the bigger problem? Letting up 6 goals lol. Or in this case for the bills, don't get dominated for the vast majority of the game on defence.

@Rochesterfan anytime someone says something controversial about Mcdermott